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NoBody
2024-10-12 18:35:27 UTC
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So Kamela, in her town hall appears to have use of a teleprompter. The
media is trying to "fact-check" this and deny a teleprompter was in
use. Prime example is this:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/posts-falsely-claim-kamala-harris-193335700.html

The pictures included do not include the picture of words being
clearly visible in the pan by shot that suddenly get shut off.

If they were Spanish and for the interviewer, why were they facing HER
and why were they removed suddenly in the pan shot?
Alan
2024-10-12 19:28:58 UTC
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Post by NoBody
So Kamela, in her town hall appears to have use of a teleprompter. The
media is trying to "fact-check" this and deny a teleprompter was in
https://www.yahoo.com/news/posts-falsely-claim-kamala-harris-193335700.html
The pictures included do not include the picture of words being
clearly visible in the pan by shot that suddenly get shut off.
If they were Spanish and for the interviewer, why were they facing HER
and why were they removed suddenly in the pan shot?
A couple of quick questions:

If she's reading from a teleprompter...

...how is it she goes on speaking even after it's turned off?

And when a teleprompter is in use, the text is continuously scrolling as
the person speaks...

...so why wasn't it doing that?

The whole townhall is available on YouTube in 1080p, and while you
cannot make out the words that are on the screen, it doesn't seem to me
that they match the words that she was speaking.

Also, her eyeline. Humans are very good at reading where other humans
are looking. She is clearly being shot from the camera that has the
teleprompter attached to it, that's true, but her eyes are clearly
looking above and to the left of the camera...

...which is exactly where the person who asked the question is standing.

And there are other parts of the video where Harris is speaking, but you
absolutely CAN see what's on the teleprompter as she's speaking:

A TIMER.

https://www.youtube.com/live/XdvHSwQswoI?t=985s

Look how long she speaks to that question (2:21 from the time index),
and you can see every time the shot includes the teleprompter, it's not
showing any text.

Now be an adult and admit you were wrong.
Skeeter
2024-10-13 13:43:52 UTC
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Post by NoBody
So Kamela, in her town hall appears to have use of a teleprompter. The
media is trying to "fact-check" this and deny a teleprompter was in
https://www.yahoo.com/news/posts-falsely-claim-kamala-harris-193335700.html
The pictures included do not include the picture of words being
clearly visible in the pan by shot that suddenly get shut off.
If they were Spanish and for the interviewer, why were they facing HER
and why were they removed suddenly in the pan shot?
If she's reading from a teleprompter...
...how is it she goes on speaking even after it's turned off?
You mean repeating herself?
Post by Alan
And when a teleprompter is in use, the text is continuously scrolling as
the person speaks...
...so why wasn't it doing that?
and that's why she froze up.
Post by Alan
The whole townhall is available on YouTube in 1080p, and while you
cannot make out the words that are on the screen, it doesn't seem to me
that they match the words that she was speaking.
32 days <cackle> only 32 days <cackle> just 32 days
Post by Alan
Also, her eyeline. Humans are very good at reading where other humans
are looking. She is clearly being shot from the camera that has the
teleprompter attached to it, that's true, but her eyes are clearly
looking above and to the left of the camera...
You are a moron. We all saw her fuck up.
Post by Alan
...which is exactly where the person who asked the question is standing.
And there are other parts of the video where Harris is speaking, but you
But what about when it wasn't running?
Post by Alan
A TIMER.
https://www.youtube.com/live/XdvHSwQswoI?t=985s
Look how long she speaks to that question (2:21 from the time index),
and you can see every time the shot includes the teleprompter, it's not
showing any text.
Now be an adult and admit you were wrong.
32 days!!!<cackle>
Alan
2024-10-13 18:02:11 UTC
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Post by NoBody
So Kamela, in her town hall appears to have use of a teleprompter. The
media is trying to "fact-check" this and deny a teleprompter was in
https://www.yahoo.com/news/posts-falsely-claim-kamala-harris-193335700.html
The pictures included do not include the picture of words being
clearly visible in the pan by shot that suddenly get shut off.
If they were Spanish and for the interviewer, why were they facing HER
and why were they removed suddenly in the pan shot?
If she's reading from a teleprompter...
...how is it she goes on speaking even after it's turned off?
You mean repeating herself?
No. Because she wasn't repeating herself.
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Post by Alan
And when a teleprompter is in use, the text is continuously scrolling as
the person speaks...
...so why wasn't it doing that?
and that's why she froze up.
She didn't. She kept on speaking without even a small stutter.
Post by Skeeter
Post by Alan
The whole townhall is available on YouTube in 1080p, and while you
cannot make out the words that are on the screen, it doesn't seem to me
that they match the words that she was speaking.
32 days <cackle> only 32 days <cackle> just 32 days
What time index is that from?
Post by Skeeter
Post by Alan
Also, her eyeline. Humans are very good at reading where other humans
are looking. She is clearly being shot from the camera that has the
teleprompter attached to it, that's true, but her eyes are clearly
looking above and to the left of the camera...
You are a moron. We all saw her fuck up.
You're lying or you didn't even look.
Post by Skeeter
Post by Alan
...which is exactly where the person who asked the question is standing.
And there are other parts of the video where Harris is speaking, but you
But what about when it wasn't running?
Show me a single time in that video other than the brief moment where
the moderator steps aside (and the text turns off)

Where there is any text on the teleprompter.
Post by Skeeter
Post by Alan
A TIMER.
https://www.youtube.com/live/XdvHSwQswoI?t=985s
Look how long she speaks to that question (2:21 from the time index),
and you can see every time the shot includes the teleprompter, it's not
showing any text.
Now be an adult and admit you were wrong.
32 days!!!<cackle>
You can't admit when you're wrong.

It's quite sad for you.
Skeeter
2024-10-13 23:28:24 UTC
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Post by NoBody
So Kamela, in her town hall appears to have use of a teleprompter. The
media is trying to "fact-check" this and deny a teleprompter was in
https://www.yahoo.com/news/posts-falsely-claim-kamala-harris-193335700.html
The pictures included do not include the picture of words being
clearly visible in the pan by shot that suddenly get shut off.
If they were Spanish and for the interviewer, why were they facing HER
and why were they removed suddenly in the pan shot?
If she's reading from a teleprompter...
...how is it she goes on speaking even after it's turned off?
You mean repeating herself?
No. Because she wasn't repeating herself.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA...You gotta be trollen. I watched her lose it.
Post by Alan
Post by Skeeter
Post by Alan
And when a teleprompter is in use, the text is continuously scrolling as
the person speaks...
...so why wasn't it doing that?
and that's why she froze up.
She didn't. She kept on speaking without even a small stutter.
Repeating herself.
Post by Alan
Post by Skeeter
Post by Alan
The whole townhall is available on YouTube in 1080p, and while you
cannot make out the words that are on the screen, it doesn't seem to me
that they match the words that she was speaking.
32 days <cackle> only 32 days <cackle> just 32 days
What time index is that from?
Look it up.
Post by Alan
Post by Skeeter
Post by Alan
Also, her eyeline. Humans are very good at reading where other humans
are looking. She is clearly being shot from the camera that has the
teleprompter attached to it, that's true, but her eyes are clearly
looking above and to the left of the camera...
You are a moron. We all saw her fuck up.
You're lying or you didn't even look.
I watched it . Damn you're dense.
Post by Alan
Post by Skeeter
Post by Alan
...which is exactly where the person who asked the question is standing.
And there are other parts of the video where Harris is speaking, but you
But what about when it wasn't running?
Show me a single time in that video other than the brief moment where
the moderator steps aside (and the text turns off)
Where there is any text on the teleprompter.
She fucked up. That is the simple truth.
Post by Alan
Post by Skeeter
Post by Alan
A TIMER.
https://www.youtube.com/live/XdvHSwQswoI?t=985s
Look how long she speaks to that question (2:21 from the time index),
and you can see every time the shot includes the teleprompter, it's not
showing any text.
Now be an adult and admit you were wrong.
32 days!!!<cackle>
You can't admit when you're wrong.
I'm not. That's whats so funny.
Post by Alan
It's quite sad for you.
Alan
2024-10-13 23:32:52 UTC
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Post by NoBody
So Kamela, in her town hall appears to have use of a teleprompter. The
media is trying to "fact-check" this and deny a teleprompter was in
https://www.yahoo.com/news/posts-falsely-claim-kamala-harris-193335700.html
The pictures included do not include the picture of words being
clearly visible in the pan by shot that suddenly get shut off.
If they were Spanish and for the interviewer, why were they facing HER
and why were they removed suddenly in the pan shot?
If she's reading from a teleprompter...
...how is it she goes on speaking even after it's turned off?
You mean repeating herself?
No. Because she wasn't repeating herself.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA...You gotta be trollen. I watched her lose it.
Quote it and give a time index.
Post by Skeeter
Post by Alan
Post by Skeeter
Post by Alan
And when a teleprompter is in use, the text is continuously scrolling as
the person speaks...
...so why wasn't it doing that?
and that's why she froze up.
She didn't. She kept on speaking without even a small stutter.
Repeating herself.
Quote it and give a time index.
Post by Skeeter
Post by Alan
Post by Skeeter
Post by Alan
The whole townhall is available on YouTube in 1080p, and while you
cannot make out the words that are on the screen, it doesn't seem to me
that they match the words that she was speaking.
32 days <cackle> only 32 days <cackle> just 32 days
What time index is that from?
Look it up.
So you can't give one.

Got it.
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Post by Alan
Post by Skeeter
Post by Alan
Also, her eyeline. Humans are very good at reading where other humans
are looking. She is clearly being shot from the camera that has the
teleprompter attached to it, that's true, but her eyes are clearly
looking above and to the left of the camera...
You are a moron. We all saw her fuck up.
You're lying or you didn't even look.
I watched it . Damn you're dense.
Quote it and give a time index.
Post by Skeeter
Post by Alan
Post by Skeeter
Post by Alan
...which is exactly where the person who asked the question is standing.
And there are other parts of the video where Harris is speaking, but you
But what about when it wasn't running?
Show me a single time in that video other than the brief moment where
the moderator steps aside (and the text turns off)
Where there is any text on the teleprompter.
She fucked up. That is the simple truth.
Quote it and give a time index.
Post by Skeeter
Post by Alan
Post by Skeeter
Post by Alan
A TIMER.
https://www.youtube.com/live/XdvHSwQswoI?t=985s
Look how long she speaks to that question (2:21 from the time index),
and you can see every time the shot includes the teleprompter, it's not
showing any text.
Now be an adult and admit you were wrong.
32 days!!!<cackle>
You can't admit when you're wrong.
I'm not. That's whats so funny.
That's right, you're not admitting you're wrong.
Alan
2024-10-12 19:35:52 UTC
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Post by NoBody
So Kamela, in her town hall appears to have use of a teleprompter. The
media is trying to "fact-check" this and deny a teleprompter was in
https://www.yahoo.com/news/posts-falsely-claim-kamala-harris-193335700.html
The pictures included do not include the picture of words being
clearly visible in the pan by shot that suddenly get shut off.
If they were Spanish and for the interviewer, why were they facing HER
and why were they removed suddenly in the pan shot?
Oh, and quite obviously, because she didn't need them, nor did she need
the distraction in her field of view.

Someone didn't turn them off quickly enough. That's all.
Skeeter
2024-10-13 13:44:23 UTC
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Post by NoBody
So Kamela, in her town hall appears to have use of a teleprompter. The
media is trying to "fact-check" this and deny a teleprompter was in
https://www.yahoo.com/news/posts-falsely-claim-kamala-harris-193335700.html
The pictures included do not include the picture of words being
clearly visible in the pan by shot that suddenly get shut off.
If they were Spanish and for the interviewer, why were they facing HER
and why were they removed suddenly in the pan shot?
Oh, and quite obviously, because she didn't need them, nor did she need
the distraction in her field of view.
Someone didn't turn them off quickly enough. That's all.
32 days <cackle>
Alan
2024-10-17 16:29:01 UTC
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Post by NoBody
So Kamela, in her town hall appears to have use of a teleprompter. The
media is trying to "fact-check" this and deny a teleprompter was in
https://www.yahoo.com/news/posts-falsely-claim-kamala-harris-193335700.html
The pictures included do not include the picture of words being
clearly visible in the pan by shot that suddenly get shut off.
If they were Spanish and for the interviewer, why were they facing HER
and why were they removed suddenly in the pan shot?
So you'll ask the same questions about this video...



...right?

If you need me to, I'll show you time indexes of Trump speaking and text
on the teleprompters.
Skeeter
2024-10-17 16:39:05 UTC
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Post by NoBody
So Kamela, in her town hall appears to have use of a teleprompter. The
media is trying to "fact-check" this and deny a teleprompter was in
https://www.yahoo.com/news/posts-falsely-claim-kamala-harris-193335700.html
The pictures included do not include the picture of words being
clearly visible in the pan by shot that suddenly get shut off.
If they were Spanish and for the interviewer, why were they facing HER
and why were they removed suddenly in the pan shot?
So you'll ask the same questions about this video...
http://youtu.be/F3tvZi5fTZw
...right?
If you need me to, I'll show you time indexes of Trump speaking and text
on the teleprompters.
You are really that obsessed?

Have a look at this clown show.

https://www.foxnews.com/video/6363352689112
Alan
2024-10-17 16:52:12 UTC
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Post by Alan
Post by NoBody
So Kamela, in her town hall appears to have use of a teleprompter. The
media is trying to "fact-check" this and deny a teleprompter was in
https://www.yahoo.com/news/posts-falsely-claim-kamala-harris-193335700.html
The pictures included do not include the picture of words being
clearly visible in the pan by shot that suddenly get shut off.
If they were Spanish and for the interviewer, why were they facing HER
and why were they removed suddenly in the pan shot?
So you'll ask the same questions about this video...
http://youtu.be/F3tvZi5fTZw
...right?
If you need me to, I'll show you time indexes of Trump speaking and text
on the teleprompters.
You are really that obsessed?
Are you so brainwashed that you cannot see that the teleprompters had
text on them when Donnie was speaking?

Now, understand me:

I don't think that Trump was USING the teleprompters.
Skeeter
2024-10-17 17:22:39 UTC
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Post by Alan
Post by Skeeter
Post by Alan
Post by NoBody
So Kamela, in her town hall appears to have use of a teleprompter. The
media is trying to "fact-check" this and deny a teleprompter was in
https://www.yahoo.com/news/posts-falsely-claim-kamala-harris-193335700.html
The pictures included do not include the picture of words being
clearly visible in the pan by shot that suddenly get shut off.
If they were Spanish and for the interviewer, why were they facing HER
and why were they removed suddenly in the pan shot?
So you'll ask the same questions about this video...
http://youtu.be/F3tvZi5fTZw
...right?
If you need me to, I'll show you time indexes of Trump speaking and text
on the teleprompters.
You are really that obsessed?
Are you so brainwashed that you cannot see that the teleprompters had
text on them when Donnie was speaking?
Who cares? They are supposed to.
Post by Alan
I don't think that Trump was USING the teleprompters.
You don't? Then why are you crying about it?
Alan
2024-10-17 17:32:38 UTC
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Post by Alan
Post by Skeeter
Post by Alan
Post by NoBody
So Kamela, in her town hall appears to have use of a teleprompter. The
media is trying to "fact-check" this and deny a teleprompter was in
https://www.yahoo.com/news/posts-falsely-claim-kamala-harris-193335700.html
The pictures included do not include the picture of words being
clearly visible in the pan by shot that suddenly get shut off.
If they were Spanish and for the interviewer, why were they facing HER
and why were they removed suddenly in the pan shot?
So you'll ask the same questions about this video...
http://youtu.be/F3tvZi5fTZw
...right?
If you need me to, I'll show you time indexes of Trump speaking and text
on the teleprompters.
You are really that obsessed?
Are you so brainwashed that you cannot see that the teleprompters had
text on them when Donnie was speaking?
Who cares? They are supposed to.
You cared when there was a brief MOMENT that there was text on them for
Harris's townhall.

Why the change?
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Post by Alan
I don't think that Trump was USING the teleprompters.
You don't? Then why are you crying about it?
I'm not.

I'm laughing about the absolutely predictable hypocrisy you just
demonstrated!
Pierre Delecto Romney
2024-10-17 18:09:53 UTC
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Post by Alan
I'm laughing about the absolutely predictable hypocrisy you just
demonstrated!
You are slated for removal soon:

https://theintercept.com/2023/03/06/pentagon-socom-deepfake-propaganda/

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-special-forces-deepfake-misinformation-b2296080.html

US Special Operations Command (SOCOM), which contains elite units from
the Army, Marines, Navy, and Air Force, is working to develop “a next
generation of ‘deep fake’ or other similar technology to generate
messages and influence operations via non-traditional channels,”
according to a procurement document discovered by The Intercept.

In recent procurement requests, SOCOM is seeking partners to develop
capabilities using lasers, holograms, and the hacking of
internet-connected devices as part of its covert operations.


https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/07/technology/artificial-intelligence-training-deepfake.html

The People Onscreen Are Fake. The Disinformation Is Real.

https://x.com/JoshWalkos/status/1846949635018940587

Now why would the Pentagon want to “create deepfake internet users”?

Wouldn’t that be “misinformation” and a “threat to our democracy”?

The answer is, yes it would, and that’s the entire point with these ghouls.
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Alan
2024-10-17 18:26:51 UTC
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I'm laughing about the absolutely predictable hypocrisy you just
demonstrated!
You are slated…
…to be complete bored with you...
Too late!
Pierre Delecto Romney
2024-10-17 18:44:54 UTC
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Post by Alan
I'm laughing about the absolutely predictable hypocrisy you just
demonstrated!
You are slated…
…to be complete bored with you...
But also removed from here in mere weeks, enjoy.

https://theintercept.com/2023/03/06/pentagon-socom-deepfake-propaganda/

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-special-forces-deepfake-misinformation-b2296080.html

US Special Operations Command (SOCOM), which contains elite units from
the Army, Marines, Navy, and Air Force, is working to develop “a next
generation of ‘deep fake’ or other similar technology to generate
messages and influence operations via non-traditional channels,”
according to a procurement document discovered by The Intercept.

In recent procurement requests, SOCOM is seeking partners to develop
capabilities using lasers, holograms, and the hacking of
internet-connected devices as part of its covert operations.


https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/07/technology/artificial-intelligence-training-deepfake.html

The People Onscreen Are Fake. The Disinformation Is Real.

https://x.com/JoshWalkos/status/1846949635018940587

Now why would the Pentagon want to “create deepfake internet users”?

Wouldn’t that be “misinformation” and a “threat to our democracy”?

The answer is, yes it would, and that’s the entire point with these ghouls.
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Skeeter
2024-10-17 20:09:08 UTC
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Post by Skeeter
Post by Alan
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So Kamela, in her town hall appears to have use of a teleprompter. The
media is trying to "fact-check" this and deny a teleprompter was in
https://www.yahoo.com/news/posts-falsely-claim-kamala-harris-193335700.html
The pictures included do not include the picture of words being
clearly visible in the pan by shot that suddenly get shut off.
If they were Spanish and for the interviewer, why were they facing HER
and why were they removed suddenly in the pan shot?
So you'll ask the same questions about this video...
http://youtu.be/F3tvZi5fTZw
...right?
If you need me to, I'll show you time indexes of Trump speaking and text
on the teleprompters.
You are really that obsessed?
Are you so brainwashed that you cannot see that the teleprompters had
text on them when Donnie was speaking?
Who cares? They are supposed to.
You cared when there was a brief MOMENT that there was text on them for
Harris's townhall.
Why the change?
What does that have to do with her freezing up when the words went away?

BUTWHATABOUT TRUMP!
Post by Alan
Post by Skeeter
Post by Alan
I don't think that Trump was USING the teleprompters.
You don't? Then why are you crying about it?
I'm not.
You are. We all see it.
Post by Alan
I'm laughing about the absolutely predictable hypocrisy you just
demonstrated!
None at all. Harris didn't know what to do. Then there was the train
wreak interview. She was just like you. "trump trump trump"
Michael A Terrell
2024-10-17 19:40:44 UTC
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Post by Alan
Post by Skeeter
Post by Alan
Post by NoBody
So Kamela, in her town hall appears to have use of a teleprompter. The
media is trying to "fact-check" this and deny a teleprompter was in
https://www.yahoo.com/news/posts-falsely-claim-kamala-harris-193335700.html
The pictures included do not include the picture of words being
clearly visible in the pan by shot that suddenly get shut off.
If they were Spanish and for the interviewer, why were they facing HER
and why were they removed suddenly in the pan shot?
So you'll ask the same questions about this video...
http://youtu.be/F3tvZi5fTZw
...right?
If you need me to, I'll show you time indexes of Trump speaking and text
on the teleprompters.
You are really that obsessed?
Are you so brainwashed that you cannot see that the teleprompters had
text on them when Donnie was speaking?
Who cares?
You care.

That's one of your half dozen stock stupid answers lately: "Who cares?" "So?"
"Buttercup" "Cupcake" "So?"

You're a fucking moron.
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Michael A Terrell
2024-10-17 22:10:43 UTC
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On 10/17/2024 10:22 AM, Skeeter-Shit "Lamey" Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell,
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Post by Alan
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Post by Alan
Post by NoBody
So Kamela, in her town hall appears to have use of a teleprompter. The
media is trying to "fact-check" this and deny a teleprompter was in
https://www.yahoo.com/news/posts-falsely-claim-kamala-harris-193335700.html
The pictures included do not include the picture of words being
clearly visible in the pan by shot that suddenly get shut off.
If they were Spanish and for the interviewer, why were they facing HER
and why were they removed suddenly in the pan shot?
So you'll ask the same questions about this video...
http://youtu.be/F3tvZi5fTZw
...right?
If you need me to, I'll show you time indexes of Trump speaking and text
on the teleprompters.
You are really that obsessed?
Are you so brainwashed that you cannot see that the teleprompters had
text on them when Donnie was speaking?
Who cares?
You care.
That's one of your half dozen stock stupid answers lately: "Who cares?" "So?"
"Buttercup" "Cupcake" "So?"
You're a fucking moron.
Look at you kicking my ass for being a dumb fuck.
Yep.
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Lil dwarf Rudey
2024-10-17 22:11:34 UTC
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You're a fucking moron.
Read it again, scumbag little man Jonathan D Ball...you are no more than
a failed solar city installer and Suckramento bungalow trash pretending
to be Phil Hendrie, but giving blow jobs at the TA glory Hole and
ducking fights at the Jolly Kone like you always do...

Explain why are you death threat prosecution exempt by the Feds so far?

And after _so many_ public death threats you issued on Trump and Vance...

Let's do our best to change that, shall we:


Governor Swill /Rudy Canoza/Lou Bricano/J Carlson/Michael A
Terrell/Chris Ahlstrom/Intelligent Party/Alan Bond/Henry Bodkin/Malte
Runz and a few dozen other socks wrote:

Multiple death threats against Trump:
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Oh poor me I got shot at ...

Swill
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Cheer up, maybe someone else will try.

Swill

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No. I am a patriotic American who wants the country and its people to
thrive. Getting rid of Trump permanently
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That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:


https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the
Presidency
U.S. Code
Notes
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(a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
or both.
(b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in
this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of
President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L.
97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title
XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
Service Protectees
The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons
protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to
consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security
Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the
defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
settlement involving a § 871 charge.


https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

The complaint alleges that in November and December of 2023, while
living in Arizona, Hanson used a social media platform to post threats
to murder the President and Vice President of the United States. On
November 19, 2023, Hanson posted online a series of threatening
statements including one that stated, “#joeAndKamala I’m asking you to
resign on Monday your alternative is death brutally murdered.” After the
U.S. Secret Service spoke to Hanson and warned him that it was a Federal
crime to post such threats, on December 23, 2023, Hanson posted another
series of similar threats aimed at the President and Vice-President.

Each count of Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, a fine of
up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release. Each count
of Interstate Communication of Threats carries a maximum sentence of
five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000, and up to three years of
supervised release.

A complaint is simply a method by which a person is charged with
criminal activity and raises no inference of guilt. An individual is
presumed innocent until evidence is presented to a jury that establishes
guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

The United States Secret Service is conducting the investigation in this
case. The United States Attorney’s Office, District of Arizona, is
handling the prosecution.


Those can be reported here:

https://tips.fbi.gov/home

https://www.justice.gov/action-center/report-crime-or-submit-complaint

https://www.secretservice.gov/contact

https://www.dhs.gov/see-something-say-something/reporting/california


Fellow citizens, won't you join in ending Rudey's usenet terrorism here?

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