MIT Climate Scientist (And Former IPCC Lead Author) Said:

[AlleyCat]

MIT climate scientist (and former IPCC lead author):

"You have to figure out how to fund science in a way that there are no incentives to artificially promoting things. When you hear, for instance, a
scientist saying the science is settled, you know that person has stepped out of the science."

Also:

"People have decided they have to convince other people that since no scientist disagrees, you shouldn't disagree either. But that, whenever you hear
that is science, that's pure propaganda."

=====

December:

Wellington's Cold Start To Summer

Iran's Freeze Drives Gas Consumption To Record Highs

"Polar Vortex Watch"

Antarctic Sea Ice Extent Above 1979-1990 Average

Pio Xi Glacier Advances

Uk & Ireland Freeze, Gas "Concerningly Low"

All-Time Record Cold In Qatar

Rare Chill Sweeps Taiwan

56% Of The U.S. Is Under Snow, Extreme Cold Inbound

Ireland's Extreme Cold Warnings Extended

Heavy Snow Buries Japan

Northern Hemisphere Snow Trackers

UK Braces For -20c (-4f)

Ideology Above Energy Security

Finland To -38.9c (-38f)

Madhya Pradesh Freezes

Southern US States Expecting Heaviest Snow In Years

Kashmir's Cold Kills

Record Freeze Grips Pakistan

Depleting European Gas Reserves

Michael Mann Ordered To Pay $530,820.21 In Long-Running Lawsuit

UK Shivers At -13.3c (8f)

Cold Winter Exacerbates Romania Gas Crisis

Arctic Blast Continues Across The U.S.

Rare Snow Sweeps Sahara Desert

Europe Plunges Below -30C (-22F), Sees Heavy Snow

U.S. Endures Record Cold

Rare Tashkurgan Snow

Global Temperature Nudges Lower

Thailand Freezes

Record Snow In Japan

Parts Of Morocco See Snow For First Time In 50 Years

Cattle Futures Hit Record High Amid Looming Arctic Blast

Three-Day Snow Warning For UK

Extreme Snowfall Paralyzes Northern Norway

Siberia Nears -60c (-76f)

Record Snows For Uttarakhand

"Dangerous Cold"

Snow Reaches Athens

Delhi Plunges

U.S. To Freeze

Arctic Ice Up 26%

Dal Lake Freezes Over

Extreme Snow Roundup

Antarctic Sea Ice Recovering Quite Nicely, Thank You

Murcia's Record Lows

Red Alert In Bidar Amid India's Cold Wave

Italian Alps Hit -31.1c (-24f)

U.S. Cold-Deaths Double Since 1999-The Establishment Blames Global Warming

Japan's Record-Breaking Snowfall

BBC Still Pushing Polar Bear Propaganda

White Christmas For Europe

Bengaluru's Record Cold

Xinjiang Plummets To Record -42.5c

Antarctic Sea Ice Extent Higher Now Than In 1979

Bhopal Breaks 58-Year Record

Vostok At -40c (Again)

The Truth About Iceberg A-68

Extreme Cold And Heavy Snow Slam Finland

Europe Wind Power A "Shit Situation," Says Minister

Winter Weather Grips U.S.

India Reels

Vostok Below -40c

Snow Hits Malaga, Spain

Cold Wave Sweeps Pakistan

Canadian Prairies Near -40c

Texans Warned Of "Extreme Cold"

Antarctic Sea Ice Nearing 1979-1990 Average

"Excellent" Early-Season Snow Across The Alps

Delhi's Record Cold

Chilly Waters Stun Record Number Of Turtles

Record Cold Grips Indore

Asia Chills

Record Snowfall In Midwest

Another Round Of Arctic Air To Hit Much Of North America

Mumbai's Lowest Temp In A Decade

Northern Hemisphere Cold

Russia In The Freezer

India Chills

Northern India's Big Freeze Intensifies

Cold Wave Enters Vietnam

Freezing Lows And Heavy Snows Hit U.S., More To Come

Kashmir Freezes At -18c (-0.4f)

Below Average Antarctic Plateau

Another Round Of Lake-Effect Snow

Cold Waves Lifting Natural Gas Prices

Snow Returns To Scotland And Wider Europe

Global Temperature Tumbles

Antarctic Sea Ice Recovery

Severe Cold Hits Pakistan

Florida Set For Record Cold

Snowy November At Red Mountain

U.S. Battered By Cold And Record Snow

Parts Of Ontario Under A Meter Of Snow

Early-December To Deliver Another Burial To Europe

[Alan]

Post by AlleyCat
"You have to figure out how to fund science in a way that there are
no incentives to artificially promoting things. When you hear, for
instance, a scientist saying the science is settled, you know that
person has stepped out of the science."
"People have decided they have to convince other people that since
no scientist disagrees, you shouldn't disagree either. But that,
whenever you hear that is science, that's pure propaganda."

Also, also:

"Dr. Lindzen accepts the elementary tenets of climate science. He agrees
that carbon dioxide is a greenhouse gas, calling people who dispute that
point 'nutty.' He agrees that the level of it is rising because of human
activity and that this should warm the climate."

[AlleyCat]

On Thu, 16 Jan 2025 01:08:44 -0800, Alan says...

Post by AlleyCat
"You have to figure out how to fund science in a way that there are
no incentives to artificially promoting things. When you hear, for
instance, a scientist saying the science is settled, you know that
person has stepped out of the science."
"People have decided they have to convince other people that since
no scientist disagrees, you shouldn't disagree either. But that,
whenever you hear that is science, that's pure propaganda."

"Dr. Lindzen...

Hmmm... I never said anything about Lindzen.

=====

December:

Wellington's Cold Start To Summer

Iran's Freeze Drives Gas Consumption To Record Highs

"Polar Vortex Watch"

Antarctic Sea Ice Extent Above 1979-1990 Average

Pio Xi Glacier Advances

Uk & Ireland Freeze, Gas "Concerningly Low"

All-Time Record Cold In Qatar

Rare Chill Sweeps Taiwan

56% Of The U.S. Is Under Snow, Extreme Cold Inbound

Ireland's Extreme Cold Warnings Extended

Heavy Snow Buries Japan

Northern Hemisphere Snow Trackers

UK Braces For -20c (-4f)

Ideology Above Energy Security

Finland To -38.9c (-38f)

Madhya Pradesh Freezes

Southern US States Expecting Heaviest Snow In Years

Kashmir's Cold Kills

Record Freeze Grips Pakistan

Depleting European Gas Reserves

Michael Mann Ordered To Pay $530,820.21 In Long-Running Lawsuit

UK Shivers At -13.3c (8f)

Cold Winter Exacerbates Romania Gas Crisis

Arctic Blast Continues Across The U.S.

Rare Snow Sweeps Sahara Desert

Europe Plunges Below -30C (-22F), Sees Heavy Snow

U.S. Endures Record Cold

Rare Tashkurgan Snow

Global Temperature Nudges Lower

Thailand Freezes

Record Snow In Japan

Parts Of Morocco See Snow For First Time In 50 Years

Cattle Futures Hit Record High Amid Looming Arctic Blast

Three-Day Snow Warning For UK

Extreme Snowfall Paralyzes Northern Norway

Siberia Nears -60c (-76f)

Record Snows For Uttarakhand

"Dangerous Cold"

Snow Reaches Athens

Delhi Plunges

U.S. To Freeze

Arctic Ice Up 26%

Dal Lake Freezes Over

Extreme Snow Roundup

Antarctic Sea Ice Recovering Quite Nicely, Thank You

Murcia's Record Lows

Red Alert In Bidar Amid India's Cold Wave

Italian Alps Hit -31.1c (-24f)

U.S. Cold-Deaths Double Since 1999-The Establishment Blames Global Warming

Japan's Record-Breaking Snowfall

BBC Still Pushing Polar Bear Propaganda

White Christmas For Europe

Bengaluru's Record Cold

Xinjiang Plummets To Record -42.5c

Antarctic Sea Ice Extent Higher Now Than In 1979

Bhopal Breaks 58-Year Record

Vostok At -40c (Again)

The Truth About Iceberg A-68

Extreme Cold And Heavy Snow Slam Finland

Europe Wind Power A "Shit Situation," Says Minister

Winter Weather Grips U.S.

India Reels

Vostok Below -40c

Snow Hits Malaga, Spain

Cold Wave Sweeps Pakistan

Canadian Prairies Near -40c

Texans Warned Of "Extreme Cold"

Antarctic Sea Ice Nearing 1979-1990 Average

"Excellent" Early-Season Snow Across The Alps

Delhi's Record Cold

Chilly Waters Stun Record Number Of Turtles

Record Cold Grips Indore

Asia Chills

Record Snowfall In Midwest

Another Round Of Arctic Air To Hit Much Of North America

Mumbai's Lowest Temp In A Decade

Northern Hemisphere Cold

Russia In The Freezer

India Chills

Northern India's Big Freeze Intensifies

Cold Wave Enters Vietnam

Freezing Lows And Heavy Snows Hit U.S., More To Come

Kashmir Freezes At -18c (-0.4f)

Below Average Antarctic Plateau

Another Round Of Lake-Effect Snow

Cold Waves Lifting Natural Gas Prices

Snow Returns To Scotland And Wider Europe

Global Temperature Tumbles

Antarctic Sea Ice Recovery

Severe Cold Hits Pakistan

Florida Set For Record Cold

Snowy November At Red Mountain

U.S. Battered By Cold And Record Snow

Parts Of Ontario Under A Meter Of Snow

Early-December To Deliver Another Burial To Europe

[Alan]

Post by AlleyCat
On Thu, 16 Jan 2025 01:08:44 -0800, Alan says...

Post by AlleyCat
"You have to figure out how to fund science in a way that there are
no incentives to artificially promoting things. When you hear, for
instance, a scientist saying the science is settled, you know that
person has stepped out of the science."
"People have decided they have to convince other people that since
no scientist disagrees, you shouldn't disagree either. But that,
whenever you hear that is science, that's pure propaganda."

"Dr. Lindzen...

Hmmm... I never said anything about Lindzen.

What of it?

I DID look up this quote.

I'm not obligated to do it, but this time I did.

But let's put back the quote that you snipped:

"Dr. Lindzen accepts the elementary tenets of climate science. He agrees
that carbon dioxide is a greenhouse gas, calling people who dispute that
point 'nutty.' He agrees that the level of it is rising because of human
activity and that this should warm the climate."

[AlleyCat]

On Thu, 16 Jan 2025 09:59:44 -0800, Alan says...

Post by Alan
I DID look up this quote.

We know, faggot... we know.

"This".

LOL

MIT climate scientist (and former IPCC lead author):

"You have to figure out how to fund science in a way that there are no incentives to artificially promoting things. When you hear, for instance, a
scientist saying the science is settled, you know that person has stepped out of the science."

Also:

"People have decided they have to convince other people that since no scientist disagrees, you shouldn't disagree either. But that, whenever you hear
that is science, that's pure propaganda."

=====

December:

Wellington's Cold Start To Summer

Iran's Freeze Drives Gas Consumption To Record Highs

"Polar Vortex Watch"

Antarctic Sea Ice Extent Above 1979-1990 Average

Pio Xi Glacier Advances

Uk & Ireland Freeze, Gas "Concerningly Low"

All-Time Record Cold In Qatar

Rare Chill Sweeps Taiwan

56% Of The U.S. Is Under Snow, Extreme Cold Inbound

Ireland's Extreme Cold Warnings Extended

Heavy Snow Buries Japan

Northern Hemisphere Snow Trackers

UK Braces For -20c (-4f)

Ideology Above Energy Security

Finland To -38.9c (-38f)

Madhya Pradesh Freezes

Southern US States Expecting Heaviest Snow In Years

Kashmir's Cold Kills

Record Freeze Grips Pakistan

Depleting European Gas Reserves

Michael Mann Ordered To Pay $530,820.21 In Long-Running Lawsuit

UK Shivers At -13.3c (8f)

Cold Winter Exacerbates Romania Gas Crisis

Arctic Blast Continues Across The U.S.

Rare Snow Sweeps Sahara Desert

Europe Plunges Below -30C (-22F), Sees Heavy Snow

U.S. Endures Record Cold

Rare Tashkurgan Snow

Global Temperature Nudges Lower

Thailand Freezes

Record Snow In Japan

Parts Of Morocco See Snow For First Time In 50 Years

Cattle Futures Hit Record High Amid Looming Arctic Blast

Three-Day Snow Warning For UK

Extreme Snowfall Paralyzes Northern Norway

Siberia Nears -60c (-76f)

Record Snows For Uttarakhand

"Dangerous Cold"

Snow Reaches Athens

Delhi Plunges

U.S. To Freeze

Arctic Ice Up 26%

Dal Lake Freezes Over

Extreme Snow Roundup

Antarctic Sea Ice Recovering Quite Nicely, Thank You

Murcia's Record Lows

Red Alert In Bidar Amid India's Cold Wave

Italian Alps Hit -31.1c (-24f)

U.S. Cold-Deaths Double Since 1999-The Establishment Blames Global Warming

Japan's Record-Breaking Snowfall

BBC Still Pushing Polar Bear Propaganda

White Christmas For Europe

Bengaluru's Record Cold

Xinjiang Plummets To Record -42.5c

Antarctic Sea Ice Extent Higher Now Than In 1979

Bhopal Breaks 58-Year Record

Vostok At -40c (Again)

The Truth About Iceberg A-68

Extreme Cold And Heavy Snow Slam Finland

Europe Wind Power A "Shit Situation," Says Minister

Winter Weather Grips U.S.

India Reels

Vostok Below -40c

Snow Hits Malaga, Spain

Cold Wave Sweeps Pakistan

Canadian Prairies Near -40c

Texans Warned Of "Extreme Cold"

Antarctic Sea Ice Nearing 1979-1990 Average

"Excellent" Early-Season Snow Across The Alps

Delhi's Record Cold

Chilly Waters Stun Record Number Of Turtles

Record Cold Grips Indore

Asia Chills

Record Snowfall In Midwest

Another Round Of Arctic Air To Hit Much Of North America

Mumbai's Lowest Temp In A Decade

Northern Hemisphere Cold

Russia In The Freezer

India Chills

Northern India's Big Freeze Intensifies

Cold Wave Enters Vietnam

Freezing Lows And Heavy Snows Hit U.S., More To Come

Kashmir Freezes At -18c (-0.4f)

Below Average Antarctic Plateau

Another Round Of Lake-Effect Snow

Cold Waves Lifting Natural Gas Prices

Snow Returns To Scotland And Wider Europe

Global Temperature Tumbles

Antarctic Sea Ice Recovery

Severe Cold Hits Pakistan

Florida Set For Record Cold

Snowy November At Red Mountain

U.S. Battered By Cold And Record Snow

Parts Of Ontario Under A Meter Of Snow

Early-December To Deliver Another Burial To Europe

[marika]

Post by AlleyCat
"You have to figure out how to fund science in a way that there are no
incentives to artificially promoting things. When you hear, for instance, a
scientist saying the science is settled, you know that person has stepped
out of the science."

Science is being defunded

I saw a clip, last month
Hakeem Jeffries at the podium, saying the new CR submitted by Mike Moses
Johnson and Elon is “laughable”, which means it couldn’t pass, at least as
written
They weren’t able to pass it without some Democrat support, because the
Freedom caucus (20ish of them) said they will vote NO

Here we are a month later. Rfkjr coming in, Trump closing down science
websites and closing down science departments. And a congressional majority
delighted to go along with all of this.

There is no science to declare settled or unsettled.

Post by AlleyCat
"People have decided they have to convince other people that since no
scientist disagrees, you shouldn't disagree either. But that, whenever you hear
that is science, that's pure propaganda."
=====
Wellington's Cold Start To Summer
Iran's Freeze Drives Gas Consumption To Record Highs
"Polar Vortex Watch"
Antarctic Sea Ice Extent Above 1979-1990 Average
Pio Xi Glacier Advances
Uk & Ireland Freeze, Gas "Concerningly Low"
All-Time Record Cold In Qatar
Rare Chill Sweeps Taiwan
56% Of The U.S. Is Under Snow, Extreme Cold Inbound
Ireland's Extreme Cold Warnings Extended
Heavy Snow Buries Japan
Northern Hemisphere Snow Trackers
UK Braces For -20c (-4f)
Ideology Above Energy Security
Finland To -38.9c (-38f)
Madhya Pradesh Freezes
Southern US States Expecting Heaviest Snow In Years
Kashmir's Cold Kills
Record Freeze Grips Pakistan
Depleting European Gas Reserves
Michael Mann Ordered To Pay $530,820.21 In Long-Running Lawsuit
UK Shivers At -13.3c (8f)
Cold Winter Exacerbates Romania Gas Crisis
Arctic Blast Continues Across The U.S.
Rare Snow Sweeps Sahara Desert
Europe Plunges Below -30C (-22F), Sees Heavy Snow
U.S. Endures Record Cold
Rare Tashkurgan Snow
Global Temperature Nudges Lower
Thailand Freezes
Record Snow In Japan
Parts Of Morocco See Snow For First Time In 50 Years
Cattle Futures Hit Record High Amid Looming Arctic Blast
Three-Day Snow Warning For UK
Extreme Snowfall Paralyzes Northern Norway
Siberia Nears -60c (-76f)
Record Snows For Uttarakhand
"Dangerous Cold"
Snow Reaches Athens
Delhi Plunges
U.S. To Freeze
Arctic Ice Up 26%
Dal Lake Freezes Over
Extreme Snow Roundup
Antarctic Sea Ice Recovering Quite Nicely, Thank You
Murcia's Record Lows
Red Alert In Bidar Amid India's Cold Wave
Italian Alps Hit -31.1c (-24f)
U.S. Cold-Deaths Double Since 1999-The Establishment Blames Global Warming
Japan's Record-Breaking Snowfall
BBC Still Pushing Polar Bear Propaganda
White Christmas For Europe
Bengaluru's Record Cold
Xinjiang Plummets To Record -42.5c
Antarctic Sea Ice Extent Higher Now Than In 1979
Bhopal Breaks 58-Year Record
Vostok At -40c (Again)
The Truth About Iceberg A-68
Extreme Cold And Heavy Snow Slam Finland
Europe Wind Power A "Shit Situation," Says Minister
Winter Weather Grips U.S.
India Reels
Vostok Below -40c
Snow Hits Malaga, Spain
Cold Wave Sweeps Pakistan
Canadian Prairies Near -40c
Texans Warned Of "Extreme Cold"
Antarctic Sea Ice Nearing 1979-1990 Average
"Excellent" Early-Season Snow Across The Alps
Delhi's Record Cold
Chilly Waters Stun Record Number Of Turtles
Record Cold Grips Indore
Asia Chills
Record Snowfall In Midwest
Another Round Of Arctic Air To Hit Much Of North America
Mumbai's Lowest Temp In A Decade
Northern Hemisphere Cold
Russia In The Freezer
India Chills
Northern India's Big Freeze Intensifies
Cold Wave Enters Vietnam
Freezing Lows And Heavy Snows Hit U.S., More To Come
Kashmir Freezes At -18c (-0.4f)
Below Average Antarctic Plateau
Another Round Of Lake-Effect Snow
Cold Waves Lifting Natural Gas Prices
Snow Returns To Scotland And Wider Europe
Global Temperature Tumbles
Antarctic Sea Ice Recovery
Severe Cold Hits Pakistan
Florida Set For Record Cold
Snowy November At Red Mountain
U.S. Battered By Cold And Record Snow
Parts Of Ontario Under A Meter Of Snow
Early-December To Deliver Another Burial To Europe