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Lee
2025-04-22 16:03:28 UTC
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TRUMP ATTACKS THE SUPREME COURT, SAYS
AMERICA ‘CANNOT GIVE EVERYONE A TRIAL’
Apr 21

Donald Trump slammed the Supreme Court
on Monday after the justices temporarily
blocked him from deporting Venezuelan
immigrants, while asserting that America
“cannot give everyone a trial” — a bedrock
constitutional right. The high court
over the weekend took up an emergency
petition from the American Civil
Liberties Union of Texas, which warned
that Trump’s administration was preparing
to deport another group of Venezuelan
immigrants under the Alien Enemies Act
without giving them a reasonable
opportunity to contest their removals.
Trump previously shipped hundreds of
Venezuelan men, without due process, to
a notorious torture prison in El Salvador.
He did so after invoking the Alien
Enemies Act, a notorious wartime law
used to justify the internment of
Japanese Americans during World War II.
Trump claims he can use the law to
deport Venezuelans who are allegedly
members of gangs that he has deemed
terrorist organizations — and his
administration claims it doesn’t have
to bring anyone back, even when courts
say to do so. The Supreme Court, which
conservatives control 6-3, ruled
earlier this month that the Trump
administration must notify immigrants
he’s detained under the Alien Enemies
Act that they are subject to removal
under the act. Further, the justices
wrote: “The notice must be afforded
within a reasonable time and in such
a manner as will allow them to
actually seek habeas relief in the
proper venue before such removal
occurs.” The ACLU warned the
administration is not complying with
that order — and was giving many of
the Venezuelan detainees fewer than
24 hours to challenge their removals.
Many of them were reportedly already
placed on buses headed to the airport.
While lower courts refused to step
in, the Supreme Court issued an order
blocking the deportations “until
further order of this court,”
inviting Trump’s solicitor general to
file a response to the ACLU’s
application with the court. Trump,
who keeps arguing it should be
illegal to criticize the Supreme
Court, lashed out at the justices on
Monday. “I’m doing what I was elected
to do, remove criminals from our
Country, but the Courts don’t seem to
want me to do that,” he wrote on Truth
Social.
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-supreme-court-immigrants-trial-due-process-1235322264/
Mitchell Holman
2025-04-22 18:06:04 UTC
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TRUMP ATTACKS THE SUPREME COURT, SAYS
AMERICA ‘CANNOT GIVE EVERYONE A TRIAL’
Apr 21
Donald Trump slammed the Supreme Court
on Monday after the justices temporarily
blocked him from deporting Venezuelan
immigrants, while asserting that America
“cannot give everyone a trial” — a bedrock
constitutional right. The high court
over the weekend took up an emergency
petition from the American Civil
Liberties Union of Texas, which warned
that Trump’s administration was preparing
to deport another group of Venezuelan
immigrants under the Alien Enemies Act
without giving them a reasonable
opportunity to contest their removals.
Trump previously shipped hundreds of
Venezuelan men, without due process, to
a notorious torture prison in El Salvador.
He did so after invoking the Alien
Enemies Act, a notorious wartime law
used to justify the internment of
Japanese Americans during World War II.
Trump claims he can use the law to
deport Venezuelans who are allegedly
members of gangs that he has deemed
terrorist organizations — and his
administration claims it doesn’t have
to bring anyone back, even when courts
say to do so. The Supreme Court, which
conservatives control 6-3, ruled
earlier this month that the Trump
administration must notify immigrants
he’s detained under the Alien Enemies
Act that they are subject to removal
under the act. Further, the justices
wrote: “The notice must be afforded
within a reasonable time and in such
a manner as will allow them to
actually seek habeas relief in the
proper venue before such removal
occurs.” The ACLU warned the
administration is not complying with
that order — and was giving many of
the Venezuelan detainees fewer than
24 hours to challenge their removals.
Many of them were reportedly already
placed on buses headed to the airport.
While lower courts refused to step
in, the Supreme Court issued an order
blocking the deportations “until
further order of this court,”
inviting Trump’s solicitor general to
file a response to the ACLU’s
application with the court. Trump,
who keeps arguing it should be
illegal to criticize the Supreme
Court, lashed out at the justices on
Monday. “I’m doing what I was elected
to do, remove criminals from our
Country, but the Courts don’t seem to
want me to do that,” he wrote on Truth
Social.
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-supreme-court
-immigrants-trial-due-process-1235322264/
"In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall
enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial"
6th Amendment, US Bill of Rights


No mention of citizenship, no limitation by
nationality or "gang affiliation". Even
Manuel Noriega, who had never set foot in
the US got a public jury trial.
%
2025-04-22 18:12:51 UTC
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Post by Lee
TRUMP ATTACKS THE SUPREME COURT, SAYS
AMERICA ‘CANNOT GIVE EVERYONE A TRIAL’
Apr 21
Donald Trump slammed the Supreme Court
on Monday after the justices temporarily
blocked him from deporting Venezuelan
immigrants, while asserting that America
“cannot give everyone a trial” — a bedrock
constitutional right. The high court
over the weekend took up an emergency
petition from the American Civil
Liberties Union of Texas, which warned
that Trump’s administration was preparing
to deport another group of Venezuelan
immigrants under the Alien Enemies Act
without giving them a reasonable
opportunity to contest their removals.
Trump previously shipped hundreds of
Venezuelan men, without due process, to
a notorious torture prison in El Salvador.
He did so after invoking the Alien
Enemies Act, a notorious wartime law
used to justify the internment of
Japanese Americans during World War II.
Trump claims he can use the law to
deport Venezuelans who are allegedly
members of gangs that he has deemed
terrorist organizations — and his
administration claims it doesn’t have
to bring anyone back, even when courts
say to do so. The Supreme Court, which
conservatives control 6-3, ruled
earlier this month that the Trump
administration must notify immigrants
he’s detained under the Alien Enemies
Act that they are subject to removal
under the act. Further, the justices
wrote: “The notice must be afforded
within a reasonable time and in such
a manner as will allow them to
actually seek habeas relief in the
proper venue before such removal
occurs.” The ACLU warned the
administration is not complying with
that order — and was giving many of
the Venezuelan detainees fewer than
24 hours to challenge their removals.
Many of them were reportedly already
placed on buses headed to the airport.
While lower courts refused to step
in, the Supreme Court issued an order
blocking the deportations “until
further order of this court,”
inviting Trump’s solicitor general to
file a response to the ACLU’s
application with the court. Trump,
who keeps arguing it should be
illegal to criticize the Supreme
Court, lashed out at the justices on
Monday. “I’m doing what I was elected
to do, remove criminals from our
Country, but the Courts don’t seem to
want me to do that,” he wrote on Truth
Social.
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-supreme-court
-immigrants-trial-due-process-1235322264/
"In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall
enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial"
6th Amendment, US Bill of Rights
No mention of citizenship, no limitation by
nationality or "gang affiliation". Even
Manuel Noriega, who had never set foot in
the US got a public jury trial.
everybody don't get what the other guy got
Chris Ahlstrom
2025-04-22 21:00:06 UTC
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everybody don't get what the other guy got
So profound <swoon>.
--
<FrikaC> I should probably reboot...
<FrikaC> ok brb
<FrikaC> So, what apart form avoiding virii, memory leaks, and rampant
crashing does Linux reallhy offer :)
<LordHavoc> reliable multitasking?
Mitchell Holman
2025-04-23 01:29:41 UTC
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Post by Lee
TRUMP ATTACKS THE SUPREME COURT, SAYS
AMERICA ‘CANNOT GIVE EVERYONE A TRIAL’
Apr 21
Donald Trump slammed the Supreme Court
on Monday after the justices temporarily
blocked him from deporting Venezuelan
immigrants, while asserting that America
“cannot give everyone a trial” — a bedrock
constitutional right. The high court
over the weekend took up an emergency
petition from the American Civil
Liberties Union of Texas, which warned
that Trump’s administration was preparing
to deport another group of Venezuelan
immigrants under the Alien Enemies Act
without giving them a reasonable
opportunity to contest their removals.
Trump previously shipped hundreds of
Venezuelan men, without due process, to
a notorious torture prison in El Salvador.
He did so after invoking the Alien
Enemies Act, a notorious wartime law
used to justify the internment of
Japanese Americans during World War II.
Trump claims he can use the law to
deport Venezuelans who are allegedly
members of gangs that he has deemed
terrorist organizations — and his
administration claims it doesn’t have
to bring anyone back, even when courts
say to do so. The Supreme Court, which
conservatives control 6-3, ruled
earlier this month that the Trump
administration must notify immigrants
he’s detained under the Alien Enemies
Act that they are subject to removal
under the act. Further, the justices
wrote: “The notice must be afforded
within a reasonable time and in such
a manner as will allow them to
actually seek habeas relief in the
proper venue before such removal
occurs.” The ACLU warned the
administration is not complying with
that order — and was giving many of
the Venezuelan detainees fewer than
24 hours to challenge their removals.
Many of them were reportedly already
placed on buses headed to the airport.
While lower courts refused to step
in, the Supreme Court issued an order
blocking the deportations “until
further order of this court,”
inviting Trump’s solicitor general to
file a response to the ACLU’s
application with the court. Trump,
who keeps arguing it should be
illegal to criticize the Supreme
Court, lashed out at the justices on
Monday. “I’m doing what I was elected
to do, remove criminals from our
Country, but the Courts don’t seem to
want me to do that,” he wrote on Truth
Social.
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-supreme-
court
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"In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall
enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial"
6th Amendment, US Bill of Rights
No mention of citizenship, no limitation by
nationality or "gang affiliation". Even
Manuel Noriega, who had never set foot in
the US got a public jury trial.
everybody don't get what the other guy got
In ALL criminal prosecutions.....
Kill Illegals
2025-04-22 21:12:58 UTC
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Post by Lee
TRUMP ATTACKS THE SUPREME COURT, SAYS
AMERICA ‘CANNOT GIVE EVERYONE A TRIAL’
Apr 21
Donald Trump slammed the Supreme Court
on Monday after the justices temporarily
blocked him from deporting Venezuelan
immigrants, while asserting that America
“cannot give everyone a trial” — a bedrock
constitutional right. The high court
over the weekend took up an emergency
petition from the American Civil
Liberties Union of Texas, which warned
that Trump’s administration was preparing
to deport another group of Venezuelan
immigrants under the Alien Enemies Act
without giving them a reasonable
opportunity to contest their removals.
Trump previously shipped hundreds of
Venezuelan men, without due process, to
a notorious torture prison in El Salvador.
He did so after invoking the Alien
Enemies Act, a notorious wartime law
used to justify the internment of
Japanese Americans during World War II.
Trump claims he can use the law to
deport Venezuelans who are allegedly
members of gangs that he has deemed
terrorist organizations — and his
administration claims it doesn’t have
to bring anyone back, even when courts
say to do so. The Supreme Court, which
conservatives control 6-3, ruled
earlier this month that the Trump
administration must notify immigrants
he’s detained under the Alien Enemies
Act that they are subject to removal
under the act. Further, the justices
wrote: “The notice must be afforded
within a reasonable time and in such
a manner as will allow them to
actually seek habeas relief in the
proper venue before such removal
occurs.” The ACLU warned the
administration is not complying with
that order — and was giving many of
the Venezuelan detainees fewer than
24 hours to challenge their removals.
Many of them were reportedly already
placed on buses headed to the airport.
While lower courts refused to step
in, the Supreme Court issued an order
blocking the deportations “until
further order of this court,”
inviting Trump’s solicitor general to
file a response to the ACLU’s
application with the court. Trump,
who keeps arguing it should be
illegal to criticize the Supreme
Court, lashed out at the justices on
Monday. “I’m doing what I was elected
to do, remove criminals from our
Country, but the Courts don’t seem to
want me to do that,” he wrote on Truth
Social.
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-supreme-court
-immigrants-trial-due-process-1235322264/
"In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall
enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial"
6th Amendment, US Bill of Rights
No mention of citizenship, no limitation by
nationality or "gang affiliation". Even
Manuel Noriega, who had never set foot in
the US got a public jury trial.
Unlawful acts by Obama and Biden's handlers created no due process right for
the spics and niggers they unlawfully imported. You and Lying Lee know this.
Leroy N. Soetoro
2025-04-22 21:48:56 UTC
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TRUMP ATTACKS THE SUPREME COURT, SAYS
AMERICA ‘CANNOT GIVE EVERYONE A TRIAL’
That's why next time Trump won't be getting one.


How many lawyers fit into one body bag?
NoBody
2025-04-23 11:27:12 UTC
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TRUMP ATTACKS THE SUPREME COURT, SAYS
AMERICA ‘CANNOT GIVE EVERYONE A TRIAL’
Apr 21
Donald Trump slammed the Supreme Court
on Monday after the justices temporarily
blocked him from deporting Venezuelan
immigrants, while asserting that America
“cannot give everyone a trial” — a bedrock
Illegals do not get trials. They get a hearing.
Start reading better sources.
Lee
2025-04-23 15:16:42 UTC
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Post by Lee
TRUMP ATTACKS THE SUPREME COURT, SAYS
AMERICA ‘CANNOT GIVE EVERYONE A TRIAL’
Apr 21
Donald Trump slammed the Supreme Court
on Monday after the justices temporarily
blocked him from deporting Venezuelan
immigrants, while asserting that America
“cannot give everyone a trial” — a bedrock
Illegals do not get trials.
That is because they aren't being
prosecuted. When they do get prosecuted
they do get a right to a trial.

https://www.nwaonline.com/news/2024/jul/31/honduran-starts-trial-on-charge-of-reentry/

https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/appellate-courts/ca9/13-10093/13-10093-2014-04-25.html

https://www.mykxlg.com/news/state/man-convicted-of-illegal-reentry-after-deportation-in-rapid-city/article_45399cbe-efef-11ef-aa83-2370c20183cb.html
Post by NoBody
They get a hearing.
What sort of hearing did
Kilmar Abrego Garcia get?
Mitchell Holman
2025-04-23 18:17:31 UTC
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Post by Lee
TRUMP ATTACKS THE SUPREME COURT, SAYS
AMERICA ‘CANNOT GIVE EVERYONE A TRIAL’
Apr 21
Donald Trump slammed the Supreme Court
on Monday after the justices temporarily
blocked him from deporting Venezuelan
immigrants, while asserting that America
“cannot give everyone a trial” — a bedrock
Illegals do not get trials.
That is because they aren't being
prosecuted.
Even non-crminal deportation
cases are entitled to hearings and
due process.


"The Due Process Clause applies to all persons within the
United States, including aliens, whether their presence is
lawful, unlawful, temporary, or permanent."

The US Supreme Court, Zadvydas v. Davis (2001)
<http://laws.findlaw.com/us/000/99-7791.html>
NoBody
2025-04-24 11:12:26 UTC
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Post by Lee
TRUMP ATTACKS THE SUPREME COURT, SAYS
AMERICA ‘CANNOT GIVE EVERYONE A TRIAL’
Apr 21
Donald Trump slammed the Supreme Court
on Monday after the justices temporarily
blocked him from deporting Venezuelan
immigrants, while asserting that America
“cannot give everyone a trial” — a bedrock
Illegals do not get trials.
That is because they aren't being
prosecuted. When they do get prosecuted
they do get a right to a trial.
https://www.nwaonline.com/news/2024/jul/31/honduran-starts-trial-on-charge-of-reentry/
https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/appellate-courts/ca9/13-10093/13-10093-2014-04-25.html
https://www.mykxlg.com/news/state/man-convicted-of-illegal-reentry-after-deportation-in-rapid-city/article_45399cbe-efef-11ef-aa83-2370c20183cb.html
Post by NoBody
They get a hearing.
Well duh. That's what I said.....
Post by Lee
What sort of hearing did
Kilmar Abrego Garcia get?
"In fact, in a document denying Abrego Garcia bail the first time on
April 29, 2019, a different immigration judge wrote, “the
determination that the respondent is a gang member appears to be
trustworthy and is supported by other evidence in the record, namely
information contained in the gang field interview sheet.”

That “sheet” was released Wednesday by the Department of Justice. It
says when officers stopped Abrego Garcia, he was with two known
members of MS-13 and a third man suspected of being in the gang."

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/doj-releases-document-in-kilmar-abrego-garcia-deportation-case/3893938/


Duh
duh
DUH
Lee
2025-04-24 15:27:19 UTC
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Post by Lee
TRUMP ATTACKS THE SUPREME COURT, SAYS
AMERICA ‘CANNOT GIVE EVERYONE A TRIAL’
Apr 21
Donald Trump slammed the Supreme Court
on Monday after the justices temporarily
blocked him from deporting Venezuelan
immigrants, while asserting that America
“cannot give everyone a trial” — a bedrock
Illegals do not get trials.
That is because they aren't being
prosecuted. When they do get prosecuted
they do get a right to a trial.
https://www.nwaonline.com/news/2024/jul/31/honduran-starts-trial-on-charge-of-reentry/
https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/appellate-courts/ca9/13-10093/13-10093-2014-04-25.html
https://www.mykxlg.com/news/state/man-convicted-of-illegal-reentry-after-deportation-in-rapid-city/article_45399cbe-efef-11ef-aa83-2370c20183cb.html
Post by NoBody
Post by Lee
Post by NoBody
They get a hearing.
Well duh. That's what I said.....
Post by Lee
What sort of hearing did
Kilmar Abrego Garcia get?
"In fact, in a document denying Abrego Garcia bail the first time on
April 29, 2019, a different immigration judge wrote, “the
determination that the respondent is a gang member appears to be
trustworthy and is supported by other evidence in the record, namely
information contained in the gang field interview sheet.”
If Garcia was such a threat in
2019 why didn't Trump deport him?
Post by NoBody
That “sheet” was released Wednesday by the Department of Justice. It
says when officers stopped Abrego Garcia, he was with two known
members of MS-13 and a third man suspected of being in the gang."
https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/doj-releases-document-in-kilmar-abrego-garcia-deportation-case/3893938/



From your own source:

"But in court documents examined by News4,
the only allegation Abrego Garcia was in
a gang came from one Prince George’s
County police officer who was later fired
for misconduct in office."

"The attorney who represented Abrego
Garcia in that proceeding said it was
written by officer Ivan Mendez, who
claimed a ----> confidential source <----
came forward to say Abrego Garcia was a
member of MS-13."


Aren't YOU the one always blasting
unnamed sources?


"Sources familiar with the matter" = they made it up"
"Nobody, Nov 20 2024
NoBody
2025-04-25 11:10:10 UTC
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TRUMP ATTACKS THE SUPREME COURT, SAYS
AMERICA ‘CANNOT GIVE EVERYONE A TRIAL’
Apr 21
Donald Trump slammed the Supreme Court
on Monday after the justices temporarily
blocked him from deporting Venezuelan
immigrants, while asserting that America
“cannot give everyone a trial” — a bedrock
Illegals do not get trials.
That is because they aren't being
prosecuted. When they do get prosecuted
they do get a right to a trial.
https://www.nwaonline.com/news/2024/jul/31/honduran-starts-trial-on-charge-of-reentry/
https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/appellate-courts/ca9/13-10093/13-10093-2014-04-25.html
https://www.mykxlg.com/news/state/man-convicted-of-illegal-reentry-after-deportation-in-rapid-city/article_45399cbe-efef-11ef-aa83-2370c20183cb.html
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Post by Lee
Post by NoBody
They get a hearing.
Well duh. That's what I said.....
Post by Lee
What sort of hearing did
Kilmar Abrego Garcia get?
"In fact, in a document denying Abrego Garcia bail the first time on
April 29, 2019, a different immigration judge wrote, “the
determination that the respondent is a gang member appears to be
trustworthy and is supported by other evidence in the record, namely
information contained in the gang field interview sheet.”
If Garcia was such a threat in
2019 why didn't Trump deport him?
Goal post move noted. You asked about a hearing.
I just showed he had one.
Lee
2025-04-25 16:17:35 UTC
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Post by Lee
TRUMP ATTACKS THE SUPREME COURT, SAYS
AMERICA ‘CANNOT GIVE EVERYONE A TRIAL’
Apr 21
Donald Trump slammed the Supreme Court
on Monday after the justices temporarily
blocked him from deporting Venezuelan
immigrants, while asserting that America
“cannot give everyone a trial” — a bedrock
Illegals do not get trials.
That is because they aren't being
prosecuted. When they do get prosecuted
they do get a right to a trial.
https://www.nwaonline.com/news/2024/jul/31/honduran-starts-trial-on-charge-of-reentry/
https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/appellate-courts/ca9/13-10093/13-10093-2014-04-25.html
https://www.mykxlg.com/news/state/man-convicted-of-illegal-reentry-after-deportation-in-rapid-city/article_45399cbe-efef-11ef-aa83-2370c20183cb.html
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Post by Lee
Post by NoBody
Post by Lee
Post by NoBody
They get a hearing.
Well duh. That's what I said.....
Post by Lee
What sort of hearing did
Kilmar Abrego Garcia get?
"In fact, in a document denying Abrego Garcia bail the first time on
April 29, 2019, a different immigration judge wrote, “the
determination that the respondent is a gang member appears to be
trustworthy and is supported by other evidence in the record, namely
information contained in the gang field interview sheet.”
If Garcia was such a threat in
2019 why didn't Trump deport him?
Well?
Post by NoBody
Goal post move noted. You asked about a hearing.
I just showed he had one.
Trump didn't deport legally in
2019, so he deports him illegally in
2025.

Not that a convicted felon cares
about obeying the law, right?
NoBody
2025-04-26 12:49:49 UTC
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TRUMP ATTACKS THE SUPREME COURT, SAYS
AMERICA ‘CANNOT GIVE EVERYONE A TRIAL’
Apr 21
Donald Trump slammed the Supreme Court
on Monday after the justices temporarily
blocked him from deporting Venezuelan
immigrants, while asserting that America
“cannot give everyone a trial” — a bedrock
Illegals do not get trials.
That is because they aren't being
prosecuted. When they do get prosecuted
they do get a right to a trial.
https://www.nwaonline.com/news/2024/jul/31/honduran-starts-trial-on-charge-of-reentry/
https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/appellate-courts/ca9/13-10093/13-10093-2014-04-25.html
https://www.mykxlg.com/news/state/man-convicted-of-illegal-reentry-after-deportation-in-rapid-city/article_45399cbe-efef-11ef-aa83-2370c20183cb.html
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Post by Lee
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Post by Lee
Post by NoBody
They get a hearing.
Well duh. That's what I said.....
Post by Lee
What sort of hearing did
Kilmar Abrego Garcia get?
"In fact, in a document denying Abrego Garcia bail the first time on
April 29, 2019, a different immigration judge wrote, “the
determination that the respondent is a gang member appears to be
trustworthy and is supported by other evidence in the record, namely
information contained in the gang field interview sheet.”
If Garcia was such a threat in
2019 why didn't Trump deport him?
Well?
Read the next response.

Duh.
Post by Lee
Post by NoBody
Goal post move noted. You asked about a hearing.
I just showed he had one.
Trump didn't deport legally in
2019, so he deports him illegally in
2025.
Not that a convicted felon cares
about obeying the law, right?
Why are you running away from your lie that he didn't have a hearing?
NoBody
2025-04-27 12:57:12 UTC
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TRUMP ATTACKS THE SUPREME COURT, SAYS
AMERICA ‘CANNOT GIVE EVERYONE A TRIAL’
Apr 21
Donald Trump slammed the Supreme Court
on Monday after the justices temporarily
blocked him from deporting Venezuelan
immigrants, while asserting that America
“cannot give everyone a trial” — a bedrock
Illegals do not get trials.
That is because they aren't being
prosecuted. When they do get prosecuted
they do get a right to a trial.
https://www.nwaonline.com/news/2024/jul/31/honduran-starts-trial-on-charge-of-reentry/
https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/appellate-courts/ca9/13-10093/13-10093-2014-04-25.html
https://www.mykxlg.com/news/state/man-convicted-of-illegal-reentry-after-deportation-in-rapid-city/article_45399cbe-efef-11ef-aa83-2370c20183cb.html
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Post by NoBody
They get a hearing.
Well duh. That's what I said.....
Post by Lee
What sort of hearing did
Kilmar Abrego Garcia get?
"In fact, in a document denying Abrego Garcia bail the first time on
April 29, 2019, a different immigration judge wrote, “the
determination that the respondent is a gang member appears to be
trustworthy and is supported by other evidence in the record, namely
information contained in the gang field interview sheet.”
If Garcia was such a threat in
2019 why didn't Trump deport him?
Well?
Read the next response.
Duh.
Post by Lee
Post by NoBody
Goal post move noted. You asked about a hearing.
I just showed he had one.
Trump didn't deport legally in
2019, so he deports him illegally in
2025.
Not that a convicted felon cares
about obeying the law, right?
Why are you running away from your lie that he didn't have a hearing?
And Lying Lee has fled.
Dean Walters
2025-04-27 16:56:29 UTC
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TRUMP ATTACKS THE SUPREME COURT, SAYS
AMERICA ‘CANNOT GIVE EVERYONE A TRIAL’
Apr 21
Donald Trump slammed the Supreme Court
on Monday after the justices temporarily
blocked him from deporting Venezuelan
immigrants, while asserting that America
“cannot give everyone a trial” — a bedrock
Illegals do not get trials.
That is because they aren't being
prosecuted. When they do get prosecuted
they do get a right to a trial.
https://www.nwaonline.com/news/2024/jul/31/honduran-starts-trial-on-charge-of-reentry/
https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/appellate-courts/ca9/13-10093/13-10093-2014-04-25.html
https://www.mykxlg.com/news/state/man-convicted-of-illegal-reentry-after-deportation-in-rapid-city/article_45399cbe-efef-11ef-aa83-2370c20183cb.html
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Post by Lee
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Post by Lee
Post by NoBody
They get a hearing.
Well duh. That's what I said.....
Post by Lee
What sort of hearing did
Kilmar Abrego Garcia get?
"In fact, in a document denying Abrego Garcia bail the first time on
April 29, 2019, a different immigration judge wrote, “the
determination that the respondent is a gang member appears to be
trustworthy and is supported by other evidence in the record, namely
information contained in the gang field interview sheet.”
If Garcia was such a threat in
2019 why didn't Trump deport him?
Well?
Read the next response.
Duh.
Post by Lee
Post by NoBody
Goal post move noted. You asked about a hearing.
I just showed he had one.
Trump didn't deport legally in
2019, so he deports him illegally in
2025.
Not that a convicted felon cares
about obeying the law, right?
Why are you running away from your lie that he didn't have a hearing?
He didn't lie, you Nazi whore. Abrego Garcia didn't get a hearing *this* time,
and when he did in 2019, the judge entered an order that he *not* be deported to
El Salvador. Trump violated the judge's order and the Constitution.
Anonymous
2025-04-27 22:24:35 UTC
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TRUMP ATTACKS THE SUPREME COURT, SAYS
AMERICA ‘CANNOT GIVE EVERYONE A TRIAL’
Apr 21
Donald Trump slammed the Supreme Court
on Monday after the justices temporarily
blocked him from deporting Venezuelan
immigrants, while asserting that America
“cannot give everyone a trial” — a bedrock
Illegals do not get trials.
    That is because they aren't being
prosecuted. When they do get prosecuted
they do get a right to a trial.
https://www.nwaonline.com/news/2024/jul/31/honduran-starts-trial-on-
charge-of-reentry/
https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/appellate-courts/
ca9/13-10093/13-10093-2014-04-25.html
https://www.mykxlg.com/news/state/man-convicted-of-illegal-reentry-after-
deportation-in-rapid-city/article_45399cbe-efef-11ef-aa83-2370c20183cb.html
Post by NoBody
  They get a hearing.
Well duh.  That's what I said.....
    What sort of hearing did
Kilmar Abrego Garcia get?
"In fact, in a document denying Abrego Garcia bail the first time on
April 29, 2019, a different immigration judge wrote, “the
determination that the respondent is a gang member appears to be
trustworthy and is supported by other evidence in the record, namely
information contained in the gang field interview sheet.”
     If Garcia was such a threat in
2019 why didn't Trump deport him?
      Well?
Read the next response.
Duh.
Post by Lee
Goal post move noted.  You asked about a hearing.
I just showed he had one.
     Trump didn't deport legally in
2019, so he deports him illegally in
2025.
     Not that a convicted felon cares
about obeying the law, right?
Why are you running away from your lie that he didn't have a hearing?
He didn't lie, you Nazi whore. Abrego Garcia didn't get a hearing *this* time,
and when he did in 2019, the judge entered an order that he *not* be deported to
El Salvador. Trump violated the judge's order and the Constitution.
Garcia's order of deportation was in *abeyance*, which was *voided* when
El Salvador destroyed the rival gang Garcia claimed would kill him. He was
LAWFULLY deported. You know this.

Siri Cruz
2025-04-25 17:52:57 UTC
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TRUMP ATTACKS THE SUPREME COURT, SAYS
AMERICA ‘CANNOT GIVE EVERYONE A TRIAL’
Apr 21
Donald Trump slammed the Supreme Court
on Monday after the justices temporarily
blocked him from deporting Venezuelan
immigrants, while asserting that America
“cannot give everyone a trial” — a bedrock
Illegals do not get trials.
That is because they aren't being
prosecuted. When they do get prosecuted
they do get a right to a trial.
https://www.nwaonline.com/news/2024/jul/31/honduran-starts-trial-on-charge-of-reentry/
https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/appellate-courts/ca9/13-10093/13-10093-2014-04-25.html
https://www.mykxlg.com/news/state/man-convicted-of-illegal-reentry-after-deportation-in-rapid-city/article_45399cbe-efef-11ef-aa83-2370c20183cb.html
Post by NoBody
Post by Lee
Post by NoBody
They get a hearing.
Well duh. That's what I said.....
Post by Lee
What sort of hearing did
Kilmar Abrego Garcia get?
"In fact, in a document denying Abrego Garcia bail the first time on
April 29, 2019, a different immigration judge wrote, “the
determination that the respondent is a gang member appears to be
trustworthy and is supported by other evidence in the record, namely
information contained in the gang field interview sheet.”
If Garcia was such a threat in
2019 why didn't Trump deport him?
Goal post move noted. You asked about a hearing.
I just showed he had one.
What was the decision of his last hearing?
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Gronk
2025-04-24 04:31:41 UTC
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TRUMP ATTACKS THE SUPREME COURT, SAYS
AMERICA ‘CANNOT GIVE EVERYONE A TRIAL’
Donald Trump slammed the Supreme Court
on Monday after the justices temporarily
blocked him from deporting Venezuelan
immigrants, while asserting that America
“cannot give everyone a trial” — a bedrock
Illegals do not get trials. They get a hearing.
Start reading better sources.
Ok, where are the hearings?
Gronk
2025-04-24 04:38:32 UTC
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TRUMP ATTACKS THE SUPREME COURT, SAYS
AMERICA ‘CANNOT GIVE EVERYONE A TRIAL’
Donald Trump slammed the Supreme Court
on Monday after the justices temporarily
blocked him from deporting Venezuelan
immigrants, while asserting that America
“cannot give everyone a trial” — a bedrock
Illegals do not get trials.  They get a hearing.
Start reading better sources.
Ok, where are the hearings?
Silence.

<crickets.wav>

And NoBrain has fled the thread.
pothead
2025-04-23 13:58:11 UTC
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TRUMP ATTACKS THE SUPREME COURT, SAYS
AMERICA ‘CANNOT GIVE EVERYONE A TRIAL’
Apr 21
Donald Trump slammed the Supreme Court
on Monday after the justices temporarily
blocked him from deporting Venezuelan
immigrants, while asserting that America
“cannot give everyone a trial” — a bedrock
constitutional right. The high court
over the weekend took up an emergency
petition from the American Civil
Liberties Union of Texas, which warned
that Trump’s administration was preparing
to deport another group of Venezuelan
immigrants under the Alien Enemies Act
without giving them a reasonable
opportunity to contest their removals.
Trump previously shipped hundreds of
Venezuelan men, without due process, to
a notorious torture prison in El Salvador.
He did so after invoking the Alien
Enemies Act, a notorious wartime law
used to justify the internment of
Japanese Americans during World War II.
Trump claims he can use the law to
deport Venezuelans who are allegedly
members of gangs that he has deemed
terrorist organizations — and his
administration claims it doesn’t have
to bring anyone back, even when courts
say to do so. The Supreme Court, which
conservatives control 6-3, ruled
earlier this month that the Trump
administration must notify immigrants
he’s detained under the Alien Enemies
Act that they are subject to removal
under the act. Further, the justices
wrote: “The notice must be afforded
within a reasonable time and in such
a manner as will allow them to
actually seek habeas relief in the
proper venue before such removal
occurs.” The ACLU warned the
administration is not complying with
that order — and was giving many of
the Venezuelan detainees fewer than
24 hours to challenge their removals.
Many of them were reportedly already
placed on buses headed to the airport.
While lower courts refused to step
in, the Supreme Court issued an order
blocking the deportations “until
further order of this court,”
inviting Trump’s solicitor general to
file a response to the ACLU’s
application with the court. Trump,
who keeps arguing it should be
illegal to criticize the Supreme
Court, lashed out at the justices on
Monday. “I’m doing what I was elected
to do, remove criminals from our
Country, but the Courts don’t seem to
want me to do that,” he wrote on Truth
Social.
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-supreme-court-im
migrants-trial-due-process-1235322264/
I don't see Trump getting a trial next time around. Maybe a one day
hearing, sentencing and execution of sentence.
%
2025-04-23 15:03:37 UTC
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TRUMP ATTACKS THE SUPREME COURT, SAYS
AMERICA ‘CANNOT GIVE EVERYONE A TRIAL’
Apr 21
Donald Trump slammed the Supreme Court
on Monday after the justices temporarily
blocked him from deporting Venezuelan
immigrants, while asserting that America
“cannot give everyone a trial” — a bedrock
constitutional right. The high court
over the weekend took up an emergency
petition from the American Civil
Liberties Union of Texas, which warned
that Trump’s administration was preparing
to deport another group of Venezuelan
immigrants under the Alien Enemies Act
without giving them a reasonable
opportunity to contest their removals.
Trump previously shipped hundreds of
Venezuelan men, without due process, to
a notorious torture prison in El Salvador.
He did so after invoking the Alien
Enemies Act, a notorious wartime law
used to justify the internment of
Japanese Americans during World War II.
Trump claims he can use the law to
deport Venezuelans who are allegedly
members of gangs that he has deemed
terrorist organizations — and his
administration claims it doesn’t have
to bring anyone back, even when courts
say to do so. The Supreme Court, which
conservatives control 6-3, ruled
earlier this month that the Trump
administration must notify immigrants
he’s detained under the Alien Enemies
Act that they are subject to removal
under the act. Further, the justices
wrote: “The notice must be afforded
within a reasonable time and in such
a manner as will allow them to
actually seek habeas relief in the
proper venue before such removal
occurs.” The ACLU warned the
administration is not complying with
that order — and was giving many of
the Venezuelan detainees fewer than
24 hours to challenge their removals.
Many of them were reportedly already
placed on buses headed to the airport.
While lower courts refused to step
in, the Supreme Court issued an order
blocking the deportations “until
further order of this court,”
inviting Trump’s solicitor general to
file a response to the ACLU’s
application with the court. Trump,
who keeps arguing it should be
illegal to criticize the Supreme
Court, lashed out at the justices on
Monday. “I’m doing what I was elected
to do, remove criminals from our
Country, but the Courts don’t seem to
want me to do that,” he wrote on Truth
Social.
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-supreme-court-im
migrants-trial-due-process-1235322264/
I don't see Trump getting a trial next time around. Maybe a one day
hearing, sentencing and execution of sentence.
Siri Cruz
2025-04-23 23:30:40 UTC
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TRUMP ATTACKS THE SUPREME COURT, SAYS
AMERICA ‘CANNOT GIVE EVERYONE A TRIAL’
Which is why prosecutors do plea deals. If the prosecutor and
defendant can agree to punishment without a trial, you get a
guilty plea and on to the next case.

Immigration courts are a work around to Article 3 courts. The
immigration court handles restricted, noncriminal matters in a
cheaper setting.

It is the prosecutor's responsibility to find a courtroom. If
they cannot, they do not get to treat that as a guilty verdict or
deportation order. The defendant goes free.
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-hh
2025-04-25 12:21:32 UTC
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TRUMP ATTACKS THE SUPREME COURT, SAYS
AMERICA ‘CANNOT GIVE EVERYONE A TRIAL’
Which is why prosecutors do plea deals. If the prosecutor and
defendant can agree to punishment without a trial, you get a
guilty plea and on to the next case.
Immigration courts are a work around to Article 3 courts. The
immigration court handles restricted, noncriminal matters in a
cheaper setting.
It is the prosecutor's responsibility to find a courtroom. If
they cannot, they do not get to treat that as a guilty verdict or
deportation order. The defendant goes free.
Hmm..

So then since the GOP deliberately kept de-funding the immigration courts,
this means that the immigration ‘scourge’ was actually perpetrated by the
GOP.

And yet their voters keep on believing that voting for them will make them
change their ways..?


-hh
Mitchell Holman
2025-04-25 13:19:33 UTC
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Post by Lee
TRUMP ATTACKS THE SUPREME COURT, SAYS
AMERICA ‘CANNOT GIVE EVERYONE A TRIAL’
Which is why prosecutors do plea deals. If the prosecutor and
defendant can agree to punishment without a trial, you get a
guilty plea and on to the next case.
Immigration courts are a work around to Article 3 courts. The
immigration court handles restricted, noncriminal matters in a
cheaper setting.
It is the prosecutor's responsibility to find a courtroom. If
they cannot, they do not get to treat that as a guilty verdict or
deportation order. The defendant goes free.
Hmm..
So then since the GOP deliberately kept de-funding the immigration
courts, this means that the immigration ‘scourge’ was actually
perpetrated by the GOP.
And yet their voters keep on believing that voting for them will make
them change their ways..?
MAGAs actually believe the GOP
is against immigration even as their
leaders keep hiring immigrants instead
of the American workers they praise.








Trump Doubles Down on Migrants Poisoning the Country
Mar 17 2024
https://tinyurl.com/bdd23mxv


Trump repeats 'poisoning the blood'
anti-immigrant remark
December 16, 2023
https://tinyurl.com/4jnmmjys



vs................




Trump’s Mar-a-Lago Club applies
to hire 70 foreign workers
July 20 2017
http://tinyurl.com/y8kzhre7



Mar-A-Lago Sought 380 Foreign Workers
Jum 14 2023
https://tinyurl.com/4pxwm536
Siri Cruz
2025-04-25 21:25:16 UTC
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TRUMP ATTACKS THE SUPREME COURT, SAYS
AMERICA ‘CANNOT GIVE EVERYONE A TRIAL’
Which is why prosecutors do plea deals. If the prosecutor and
defendant can agree to punishment without a trial, you get a
guilty plea and on to the next case.
Immigration courts are a work around to Article 3 courts. The
immigration court handles restricted, noncriminal matters in a
cheaper setting.
It is the prosecutor's responsibility to find a courtroom. If
they cannot, they do not get to treat that as a guilty verdict or
deportation order. The defendant goes free.
Hmm..
So then since the GOP deliberately kept de-funding the immigration courts,
this means that the immigration ‘scourge’ was actually perpetrated by the
GOP.
Republican legislators announced they did so to gum up the works
and make the problem worse for Biden.
Post by -hh
And yet their voters keep on believing that voting for them will make them
change their ways..?
These voters demand to be lied to. You will not get a single vote
unless you subscribe to the Standard List of Lies.
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NoBody
2025-04-26 12:48:45 UTC
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Post by Lee
TRUMP ATTACKS THE SUPREME COURT, SAYS
AMERICA ?CANNOT GIVE EVERYONE A TRIAL?
Which is why prosecutors do plea deals. If the prosecutor and
defendant can agree to punishment without a trial, you get a
guilty plea and on to the next case.
Immigration courts are a work around to Article 3 courts. The
immigration court handles restricted, noncriminal matters in a
cheaper setting.
It is the prosecutor's responsibility to find a courtroom. If
they cannot, they do not get to treat that as a guilty verdict or
deportation order. The defendant goes free.
Hmm..
So then since the GOP deliberately kept de-funding the immigration courts,
this means that the immigration ‘scourge’ was actually perpetrated by the
GOP.
Republican legislators announced they did so to gum up the works
and make the problem worse for Biden.
Citations required.
Post by Siri Cruz
Post by -hh
And yet their voters keep on believing that voting for them will make them
change their ways..?
These voters demand to be lied to. You will not get a single vote
unless you subscribe to the Standard List of Lies.
Given that you live in California and believe their nonsense, your
opinion means...nothing.
NoBody
2025-04-27 12:56:40 UTC
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Post by Siri Cruz
Post by Lee
TRUMP ATTACKS THE SUPREME COURT, SAYS
AMERICA ?CANNOT GIVE EVERYONE A TRIAL?
Which is why prosecutors do plea deals. If the prosecutor and
defendant can agree to punishment without a trial, you get a
guilty plea and on to the next case.
Immigration courts are a work around to Article 3 courts. The
immigration court handles restricted, noncriminal matters in a
cheaper setting.
It is the prosecutor's responsibility to find a courtroom. If
they cannot, they do not get to treat that as a guilty verdict or
deportation order. The defendant goes free.
Hmm..
So then since the GOP deliberately kept de-funding the immigration courts,
this means that the immigration ‘scourge’ was actually perpetrated by the
GOP.
Republican legislators announced they did so to gum up the works
and make the problem worse for Biden.
Citations required.
Post by Siri Cruz
Post by -hh
And yet their voters keep on believing that voting for them will make them
change their ways..?
These voters demand to be lied to. You will not get a single vote
unless you subscribe to the Standard List of Lies.
Given that you live in California and believe their nonsense, your
opinion means...nothing.
And the drunk has run away.
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