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Wong Kim Ark’s Ship Comes to Port - Justice Horace Gray’s miscarriage of justice
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Rudy Canoza
2025-01-24 04:48:48 UTC
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Wong Kim Ark was wrongly decided.

http://www.thesocialcontract.com/artman2/publish/tsc_22_2/tsc_22_2_buchanan.shtml

This is a brilliant article. Open borders proponents like Lee and Mitchell
Holman won't read it. It's long and complex, and like all extremist ideologues,
they prefer cheap easy fiction (lies). Neither Lee nor Holman will read this
piece. They just don't have either the stamina or the intellectual honesty.
While both of them get Trump exactly right, they get *a lot* about their own
side exactly wrong.

Justice Horace Gray, the author of Wong Kim Ark, simply got it wrong — entirely.
He ignored over a century of American statutory law that completely *broke* with
the common law, and he ignored prior Supreme Court decisions — including one of
his own — that correctly interpreted the citizenship clause.

Prediction: if they reply at all, Mitchell Holman and Lee, the two most
notorious open borders advocates here, will simply revert to their
long-demolished arguments about the fictional "problems" associated with /jus
sanguinis/ (citizenship by descend). The fact is, there are *no* inherent
problems with /jus sanguinis/. They are a figment of Lee's and Mitchell's
fevered imaginations. *Every* European country — 100% of them — has /jus
sanguinis/ as its fundamental citizenship law. You're a citizen at birth of a
European *only* if one or both of your parents are citizens of that country. If
Somali or Argentine or Canadian parents give birth to a child in, say, Germany,
that child is not a citizen of Germany. Before marking "German" on a newborn's
identity documents, the German authorities first determine if one of the child's
parents is a German citizen. If neither parent has German citizenship, then the
child doesn't. It's that simple.

That's how it should be here.
Klaus Schadenfreude
2025-01-24 05:34:46 UTC
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Post by Rudy Canoza
Wong Kim Ark was wrongly decided.
http://www.thesocialcontract.com/artman2/publish/tsc_22_2/tsc_22_2_buchanan.shtml
Post by Rudy Canoza
This is a brilliant article. Open borders proponents like Lee and
Mitchell Holman won't read it. It's long and complex, and like all
extremist ideologues, they prefer cheap easy fiction (lies). Neither
Lee nor Holman will read this piece. They just don't have either the
stamina or the intellectual honesty. While both of them get Trump
exactly right, they get *a lot* about their own side exactly wrong.
Justice Horace Gray, the author of Wong Kim Ark, simply got it wrong
— entirely. He ignored over a century of American statutory law that
completely broke with the common law, and he ignored prior Supreme
Court decisions — including one of his own — that correctly
interpreted the citizenship clause.
Prediction: if they reply at all, Mitchell Holman and Lee, the two
most notorious open borders advocates here, will simply revert to
their long-demolished arguments about the fictional "problems"
associated with /jus sanguinis/ (citizenship by descend). The fact
is, there are no inherent problems with /jus sanguinis/. They are a
figment of Lee's and Mitchell's fevered imaginations. Every European
country — 100% of them — has /jus sanguinis/ as its fundamental
citizenship law. You're a citizen at birth of a European only if one
or both of your parents are citizens of that country. If Somali or
Argentine or Canadian parents give birth to a child in, say, Germany,
that child is not a citizen of Germany. Before marking "German" on a
newborn's identity documents, the German authorities first determine
if one of the child's parents is a German citizen. If neither parent
has German citizenship, then the child doesn't. It's that simple.
That's how it should be here.
I'M HERE! I'M QUEER! GET USED TO IT!!
jojo
2025-01-24 14:06:51 UTC
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Post by Rudy Canoza
Wong Kim Ark was wrongly decided.
http://www.thesocialcontract.com/artman2/publish/tsc_22_2/tsc_22_2_buchanan.shtml
This is a brilliant article. Open borders proponents like Lee and
Mitchell Holman won't read it. It's long and complex, and like
all extremist ideologues, they prefer cheap easy fiction (lies).
Neither Lee nor Holman will read this piece. They just don't have
either the stamina or the intellectual honesty. While both of
them get Trump exactly right, they get *a lot* about their own
side exactly wrong.
Justice Horace Gray, the author of Wong Kim Ark, simply got it
wrong — entirely. He ignored over a century of American statutory
law that completely *broke* with the common law, and he ignored
prior Supreme Court decisions — including one of his own — that
correctly interpreted the citizenship clause.
Prediction: if they reply at all, Mitchell Holman and Lee, the
two most notorious open borders advocates here, will simply
revert to their long-demolished arguments about the fictional
"problems" associated with /jus sanguinis/ (citizenship by
descend). The fact is, there are *no* inherent problems with /jus
sanguinis/. They are a figment of Lee's and Mitchell's fevered
imaginations. *Every* European country — 100% of them — has /jus
sanguinis/ as its fundamental citizenship law. You're a citizen
at birth of a European *only* if one or both of your parents are
citizens of that country. If Somali or Argentine or Canadian
parents give birth to a child in, say, Germany, that child is not
a citizen of Germany. Before marking "German" on a newborn's
identity documents, the German authorities first determine if one
of the child's parents is a German citizen. If neither parent has
German citizenship, then the child doesn't. It's that simple.
That's how it should be here.
technically, a land of immigrants should have a different
criteria for citizenship than the organic cultures of eurasia. so
it applies to australia and new zealand also.
Lee
2025-01-24 17:19:45 UTC
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Post by Rudy Canoza
Wong Kim Ark was wrongly decided.
http://www.thesocialcontract.com/artman2/publish/tsc_22_2/tsc_22_2_buchanan.shtml This is a brilliant
article. Open borders proponents like Lee and Mitchell Holman won't read it. It's long and complex, and
like all extremist ideologues, they prefer cheap easy fiction (lies). Neither Lee nor Holman will read
this piece. They just don't have either the stamina or the intellectual honesty. While both of them get
Trump exactly right, they get *a lot* about their own side exactly wrong.
Justice Horace Gray, the author of Wong Kim Ark, simply got it wrong — entirely. He ignored over a
century of American statutory law that completely broke with the common law, and he ignored prior
Supreme Court decisions — including one of his own — that correctly interpreted the citizenship clause.
Prediction: if they reply at all, Mitchell Holman and Lee, the two most notorious open borders advocates
here, will simply revert to their long-demolished arguments about the fictional "problems" associated
with /jus sanguinis/ (citizenship by descend). The fact is, there are no inherent problems with /jus
sanguinis/. They are a figment of Lee's and Mitchell's fevered imaginations. Every European country —
100% of them — has /jus sanguinis/ as its fundamental citizenship law. You're a citizen at birth of a
European only if one or both of your parents are citizens of that country. If Somali or Argentine or
Canadian parents give birth to a child in, say, Germany, that child is not a citizen of Germany. Before
marking "German" on a newborn's identity documents, the German authorities first determine if one of the
child's parents is a German citizen. If neither parent has German citizenship, then the child doesn't.
It's that simple.
That's how it should be here.
technically, a land of immigrants should have a different criteria for citizenship than the organic cultures
of eurasia. so it applies to australia and new zealand also.
It is notable that Trump (and Rudy) want
to eliminate birthright citizenship but
don't have an plan of what should replace
it.

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