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James Doohan, Scotty on 'Star Trek,' Dies at 85

Well, Cap'n, the engines finally blew...

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By JOHN SCHWARTZ
Published: July 20, 2005

James Doohan, who faked a Scottish burr to create one of television's
most endearing characters, Chief Engineer Montgomery (Scotty) Scott of
the U.S.S. Enterprise, died today at the age of 85.

Mr. Doohan, who had Alzheimer's disease, died of pneumonia at his home
early this morning, said his agent, Steven Stevens.

Whenever Captain Kirk said "Beam me up, Scotty" or its many variants,
he was talking to the character played by Mr. Doohan, an irascible
engineer whose cries of "Captain! The engines canna take nae more!"
and references to warp speed and dilithium crystals have resonated
through popular culture since 1966, when the original Star Trek's
three seasons began.

He later appeared in seven Star Trek movies and in "Star Trek: The
Next Generation," a series set 75 years after the original Star Trek
was to have taken place. (The time gap was explained by Mr. Scott's
having jury-rigged a form of suspended animation by sending himself
into a pattern buffer in the transporter and keeping his matter
circulating in the unit through continuous diagnostic loop. Like all
Star Trek explanations, it sounds good if you say it fast.)

In that show, Mr. Scott expressed astonishment at the approach of that
ship's engineer, Geordie LaForge, to telling his captain how long it
would take to work through a particular problem. "Oh, you didn't tell
him how long it would really take, did you?" When Mr. LaForge said he
had, Mr. Scott replied with exasperation, "Oh, laddie, you've got a
lot to learn if you want people to think of you as a miracle worker!"

James Montgomery Doohan was born in Vancouver, British Columbia, on
March 3, 1920. He was the youngest of four children, and his father,
Mr. Doohan would later write in his memoir, "Beam Me Up, Scotty," was
an abusive alcoholic. Mr. Doohan served in World War II, and was
struck by six bullets during the D-Day Invasion in Normandy. One of
the bullets blew off his middle right finger, an injury he would later
conceal from the Star Trek television cameras.

Married three times, he is survived by his third wife, the former
Wende Braunberger, and seven children. The four children from his
first marriage, now grown, are Larkin, Deirdre, Montgomery and
Christopher; his third marriage produced three children: Eric, Thomas
and Sarah, who was born in 2000 when Mr. Doohan was 80.

When he first auditioned for the role of ship's engineer with Gene
Roddenberry, the creator of Star Trek, Mr. Doohan read the lines with
a variety of accents, including French and German. "They both decided
an engineer has got to be a Scotsman," Mr. Stevens recalled.

Mr. Doohan became so closely associated with his character that it was
difficult for him to get other parts. But if he resented having taken
a role that all but ended his acting career, he did not show it, said
Walter Koenig, who played Ensign Pavel Chekov in the original
television series and rode the lucrative convention circuit with him.

"He accepted it," he said. "He delighted in the attention."

Mr. Stevens, the agent, said that Mr. Doohan "loved the idea that he'd
be in an airport and somebody from Kenya or some Middle Eastern
country would come up and say, 'You're Scotty!' And he'd stop and take
pictures." He even enjoyed the endless gantlet of conventions, Mr.
Stevens said. "Some people might think, 'Ugh - the poor guy's got to
sit and sign autographs.' He'd have done it for free."

Mr. Doohan influenced a generation of engineers, who saw him as role
model. The Milwaukee School of Engineering awarded Mr. Doohan an
honorary doctor of engineering degree in 1993 "after a survey of
students revealed that a large number of respondents said the
character Scotty's 'engineer' title piqued their interest in the
field," said Kathleen McCann, a spokeswoman for the school. "He
brought the field of engineering to the forefront of pop culture," she
said in an e-mail response to questions.

When he attended a special James Doohan Farewell Star Trek Convention
last summer, using a wheelchair but alert, one of the people who spoke
at the ceremony was Neil Armstrong, the first person to actually walk
on the soil of another world and a "Star Trek" fan. According to
accounts of the event, Mr. Armstrong said he hoped his next command
would be a Federation starship, and added "if I get that command, I
want a chief engineering officer like Montgomery Scott."

Mr. Koenig said that the night before the event, he held a dinner in
Mr. Doohan's honor. There were many tributes and many stories, Mr.
Koenig recalled, "and a lot of laughs all around." Mr. Doohan - as
always - basked in the attention and love.

Mr. Koenig said that at the end of the evening, as Mr. Doohan was
being wheeled out, he slowed for a word. "He said it was nice, but it
was a lot too long," he recalled with a laugh.

Mr. Doohan requested that his remains be shot into space, and his
family has arranged through Space Services Inc., a Houston company
that provides "memorial spaceflights" and which also sent the remains
of Mr. Rodenberry and Timothy Leary into space in a 1997 flight.
somd_jim
2005-07-20 22:54:41 UTC
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James Doohan, Scotty on 'Star Trek,' Dies at 85
Mr. Doohan requested that his remains be shot into space, and his
family has arranged through Space Services Inc., a Houston company
that provides "memorial spaceflights" and which also sent the remains
of Mr. Rodenberry and Timothy Leary into space in a 1997 flight.
For once, Scotty will get beamed up.

Jim
Frank B.
2005-07-21 01:01:23 UTC
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James Doohan, Scotty on 'Star Trek,' Dies at 85
Mr. Doohan requested that his remains be shot into space, and his
family has arranged through Space Services Inc., a Houston company
that provides "memorial spaceflights" and which also sent the remains
of Mr. Rodenberry and Timothy Leary into space in a 1997 flight.
For once, Scotty will get beamed up.
He might have had a few more years left if Paramount could have stopped
pressuring him to attend those f-----g Star Trek conventions.
unknown
2005-07-21 01:42:36 UTC
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James Doohan, Scotty on 'Star Trek,' Dies at 85
Mr. Doohan requested that his remains be shot into space, and his
family has arranged through Space Services Inc., a Houston company
that provides "memorial spaceflights" and which also sent the remains
of Mr. Rodenberry and Timothy Leary into space in a 1997 flight.
For once, Scotty will get beamed up.
He might have had a few more years left if Paramount could have stopped
pressuring him to attend those f-----g Star Trek conventions.
That's unlikely. He developed Alzheimer's a couple of years ago, and
spent the past year pretty much gone, by all accounts.
"I have not ordered the use of force. I hope
the use of force will not become necessary.
Hopefully this can be done peacefully.
Hopefully we can do this without any
military action."
--Putsch, three months after telling Blair he planned
to attack as soon as he had the phony intelligence
and propaganda all in place.

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Scott Erb
2005-07-21 02:39:41 UTC
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James Doohan, Scotty on 'Star Trek,' Dies at 85
Well, Cap'n, the engines finally blew...
I just watched two episodes I had on tape in my personal tribute. The first
was one where the aliens from Andromedia capture the Enterprise to use it to
take them back to their galaxy and plan the attack on the Milky Way. In
that episode Scotty not only has a plan to destroy the Enterprise (which
Kirk refuses to act upon), but he also drinks the alien under the table with
"something green."

The second was "Wolf in the Fold," where Scotty is accused of the murder of
a number of women on a planet dedicated to peace and love. Ultimately they
find out an alien energy being who had been a number of unapprehended mass
murderers throughout history was involved, but it's a classic "Scotty"
episode.

And tonight before bed I'll pour a shot of my special occasion expensive
Lagavulin scotch to drink a toast to him.
unknown
2005-07-21 13:19:08 UTC
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James Doohan, Scotty on 'Star Trek,' Dies at 85
Well, Cap'n, the engines finally blew...
I just watched two episodes I had on tape in my personal tribute. The first
was one where the aliens from Andromedia capture the Enterprise to use it to
take them back to their galaxy and plan the attack on the Milky Way. In
that episode Scotty not only has a plan to destroy the Enterprise (which
Kirk refuses to act upon), but he also drinks the alien under the table with
"something green."
The second was "Wolf in the Fold," where Scotty is accused of the murder of
a number of women on a planet dedicated to peace and love. Ultimately they
find out an alien energy being who had been a number of unapprehended mass
murderers throughout history was involved, but it's a classic "Scotty"
episode.
And tonight before bed I'll pour a shot of my special occasion expensive
Lagavulin scotch to drink a toast to him.
Oh, I remember that "Something green" episode. I remember laughing
'till my sides split.

Wasn't there another one where he gets into a bar brawl with either
Romulans or Klingons, and afterward, he's explaining himself to a
non-plused Kirk, and he cites a long list of personal disparagements
made by the aliens against Kirk which he loftily ignored, but then one
of them called the Enterprize a "garbage scow" and that's when Scotty
leapt into action? I think that was my favorite "Scotty" one.



"I have not ordered the use of force. I hope
the use of force will not become necessary.
Hopefully this can be done peacefully.
Hopefully we can do this without any
military action."
--Putsch, three months after telling Blair he planned
to attack as soon as he had the phony intelligence
and propaganda all in place.

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a.a. #2211 -- Bryan Zepp Jamieson
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2005-07-21 13:54:19 UTC
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James Doohan, Scotty on 'Star Trek,' Dies at 85
Well, Cap'n, the engines finally blew...
I just watched two episodes I had on tape in my personal tribute. The first
was one where the aliens from Andromedia capture the Enterprise to use it to
take them back to their galaxy and plan the attack on the Milky Way. In
that episode Scotty not only has a plan to destroy the Enterprise (which
Kirk refuses to act upon), but he also drinks the alien under the table with
"something green."
The second was "Wolf in the Fold," where Scotty is accused of the murder of
a number of women on a planet dedicated to peace and love. Ultimately they
find out an alien energy being who had been a number of unapprehended mass
murderers throughout history was involved, but it's a classic "Scotty"
episode.
And tonight before bed I'll pour a shot of my special occasion expensive
Lagavulin scotch to drink a toast to him.
Oh, I remember that "Something green" episode. I remember laughing
'till my sides split.
Wasn't there another one where he gets into a bar brawl with either
Romulans or Klingons, and afterward, he's explaining himself to a
non-plused Kirk, and he cites a long list of personal disparagements
made by the aliens against Kirk which he loftily ignored, but then one
of them called the Enterprize a "garbage scow" and that's when Scotty
leapt into action? I think that was my favorite "Scotty" one.
Zepp, that one was "The Trouble With Tribbles."
unknown
2005-07-21 14:43:46 UTC
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James Doohan, Scotty on 'Star Trek,' Dies at 85
Well, Cap'n, the engines finally blew...
I just watched two episodes I had on tape in my personal tribute. The first
was one where the aliens from Andromedia capture the Enterprise to use it to
take them back to their galaxy and plan the attack on the Milky Way. In
that episode Scotty not only has a plan to destroy the Enterprise (which
Kirk refuses to act upon), but he also drinks the alien under the table with
"something green."
The second was "Wolf in the Fold," where Scotty is accused of the murder of
a number of women on a planet dedicated to peace and love. Ultimately they
find out an alien energy being who had been a number of unapprehended mass
murderers throughout history was involved, but it's a classic "Scotty"
episode.
And tonight before bed I'll pour a shot of my special occasion expensive
Lagavulin scotch to drink a toast to him.
Oh, I remember that "Something green" episode. I remember laughing
'till my sides split.
Wasn't there another one where he gets into a bar brawl with either
Romulans or Klingons, and afterward, he's explaining himself to a
non-plused Kirk, and he cites a long list of personal disparagements
made by the aliens against Kirk which he loftily ignored, but then one
of them called the Enterprize a "garbage scow" and that's when Scotty
leapt into action? I think that was my favorite "Scotty" one.
Zepp, that one was "The Trouble With Tribbles."
Thanks. Been a few years since I watched any of those old shows.

"I have not ordered the use of force. I hope
the use of force will not become necessary.
Hopefully this can be done peacefully.
Hopefully we can do this without any
military action."
--Putsch, three months after telling Blair he planned
to attack as soon as he had the phony intelligence
and propaganda all in place.

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Pay your taxes so the rich don't have to.
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a.a. #2211 -- Bryan Zepp Jamieson

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2005-07-21 14:40:03 UTC
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James Doohan, Scotty on 'Star Trek,' Dies at 85
Well, Cap'n, the engines finally blew...
I just watched two episodes I had on tape in my personal tribute. The first
was one where the aliens from Andromedia capture the Enterprise to use it to
take them back to their galaxy and plan the attack on the Milky Way. In
that episode Scotty not only has a plan to destroy the Enterprise (which
Kirk refuses to act upon), but he also drinks the alien under the table with
"something green."
That episode was called "By Any Other Name."
Post by 1769Dead
The second was "Wolf in the Fold," where Scotty is accused of the murder of
a number of women on a planet dedicated to peace and love. Ultimately they
find out an alien energy being who had been a number of unapprehended mass
murderers throughout history was involved, but it's a classic "Scotty"
episode.
And tonight before bed I'll pour a shot of my special occasion expensive
Lagavulin scotch to drink a toast to him.
Steven Canyon
2005-07-21 10:35:08 UTC
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Post by 1769Dead
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James Doohan, Scotty on 'Star Trek,' Dies at 85
Well, Cap'n, the engines finally blew...
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This has got to weigh pretty heavily on Greywolf Zepp Jamieson since
he was a really big fan of the original startrek series. In fact,
under his Greywolf persona, Zepp wrote quite a few of his own stories
using the Startrek characters and posted them in
alt.startrek.creative, alt.startrek.creative.erotica.moderated, and
others. Of course, Zepp liked to change the relationships of the
characters a little by making them into flaming homosexuals.



--

Sevel years ago a mysterious poster identified as "Greywolf the
Wanderer" posted on several newsgroups relating to Wicca, people
who believed they were werevolves, people that got excited about
*furry* cartoon critters, and homosexual fantasies about the
original startrek characters. He used the same IPS account and e-mail
address as Zepp Jamieson and claimed that he was borrowing it
from zepp, but the following coincidental evidence has surfaced.

Are these similarities between Zepp and Greywolf just a
coincidence?

Both Greywolf and Zepp have the following in common

Both lived in Scotland and in B.C. Canada.
Both lived in USA for decades W/O gaining citizenship
Both were sysops in Santa Barbara.
Both now live near Mt Shasta in California.
Both complain of bad eyesight.
Both worked at an airport.
Both worked as a janitor.
Both worked at a hospital.
Both have a house full of cats and dogs.
Both have 2 samoyeds and a cocker/Brittany cross
Both have samoyeds named Monk.
Both have samoyeds named Moon.
Both complain of "rhuematiz."
Both say they are dyslexic.
Both like author Robert Heinlein
Both like Heinlein's "Moon is a Harsh Mistress."
Both like Jethro Tull.
Both claim to be writers.
Both are dedicated Sci fi fans.
Both use the phrase "I is suitably impressed."
Both use the phrase evolution in action"
Both use the phrase "The moon howls"
Both are overweight
Both have had drinking problems

Both disappeared from usenet for several months during
the middle part of 2002. Greywolf said he needed a new
ISP and althoughg he nbever returned under that name, when
Zepp reappeared he had a new ISP.

Greywolf says that he's a wiccan and Zepp does a lot of
writing about wiccans.

Greywolf used Zepp's ISP account and Zepp's computer and
claimed to live with Zepp, also claiming that his household
consisted of only two people. Zepp also claims that Greywolf
lived in his household, but also claims that he lives only
with his wife.

When Zepp first saw the Greywolf stuff reposted, he claimed
that it was his private affair.


So is Zepp the same person as Greywolf? And if so, what does Zepp's homely
wife think of Greywolf posting his homosexual fantasies on Usnet.
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