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Ryan Is A Great Pick!
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Tracey12
2012-08-13 18:08:09 UTC
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With Ryan on the ticket, the Tea Party wins hugely because he's a Tea
Party favorite.

But..

Now the Romney ticket looks more like Traditional America vs.
Socialist Europe with Obama being the radical socialist.

The left must be freaking
wy
2012-08-13 18:12:52 UTC
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Post by Tracey12
With Ryan on the ticket, the Tea Party wins hugely because he's a Tea
Party favorite.
But..
Now the Romney ticket looks more like Traditional America vs.
Socialist Europe with Obama being the radical socialist.
The left must be freaking
I'm still waiting for Obama to turn radical socialist. He's got
trouble being a true liberal. No matter. Obama will be re-elected
because 90% of America won't be able to connect with Richie Rich and
his cartoon sidekick "Goofy" Ryan.
Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E
2012-08-13 19:05:55 UTC
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Post by Tracey12
With Ryan on the ticket, the Tea Party wins hugely because he's a Tea
Party favorite.
But..
Now the Romney ticket looks more like Traditional America vs.
Socialist Europe with Obama being the radical socialist.
The left must be freaking
I'm still waiting for Obama to turn radical socialist.  He's got
trouble being a true liberal.  No matter. Obama will be re-elected
because 90% of America won't be able to connect with Richie Rich and
his cartoon sidekick "Goofy" Ryan.
HUH ??? So you think Obama isn't already a "radical socialist"???
WTF ??!! Are you on drugs??!!
George Kerby
2012-08-13 19:31:13 UTC
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Post by wy
Post by Tracey12
With Ryan on the ticket, the Tea Party wins hugely because he's a Tea
Party favorite.
But..
Now the Romney ticket looks more like Traditional America vs.
Socialist Europe with Obama being the radical socialist.
The left must be freaking
I'm still waiting for Obama to turn radical socialist.
You been in a coma or something?!?
Bye Bye Glove
2012-08-13 19:53:20 UTC
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Post by wy
Post by Tracey12
With Ryan on the ticket, the Tea Party wins hugely because he's a Tea
Party favorite.
But..
Now the Romney ticket looks more like Traditional America vs.
Socialist Europe with Obama being the radical socialist.
The left must be freaking
I'm still waiting for Obama to
STFU, canuck troll.
duke
2012-08-13 20:16:20 UTC
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Post by wy
Post by Tracey12
With Ryan on the ticket, the Tea Party wins hugely because he's a Tea
Party favorite.
But..
Now the Romney ticket looks more like Traditional America vs.
Socialist Europe with Obama being the radical socialist.
The left must be freaking
I'm still waiting for Obama to turn radical socialist.
He's already is.
Post by wy
He's got
trouble being a true liberal. No matter. Obama will be re-elected
because 90% of America won't be able to connect with Richie Rich and
his cartoon sidekick "Goofy" Ryan.
But they can with buckwheat and his gutter politics?

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democracy in America as we know it. Let the
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ballot box to put an end to Imperial Obama.
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Tracey12
2012-08-13 22:35:09 UTC
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I'm still waiting for Obama to turn radical socialist.  He's got
trouble being a true liberal.  No matter. Obama will be re-elected
because 90% of America won't be able to connect with Richie Rich and
his cartoon sidekick "Goofy" Ryan.
Why are you waiting on anything? You're a foreigner.
Patrick
2012-08-13 22:53:30 UTC
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Post by Tracey12
With Ryan on the ticket, the Tea Party wins hugely because he's a Tea
Party favorite.
But..
Now the Romney ticket looks more like Traditional America vs.
Socialist Europe with Obama being the radical socialist.
The left must be freaking
I'm still waiting for Obama to turn radical socialist. He's got
trouble being a true liberal. No matter. Obama will be re-elected
because 90% of America won't be able to connect with Richie Rich and
his cartoon sidekick "Goofy" Ryan.

+ The only reason obammy might win is because there are now
more takers than givers. And the takers don't want the gravy
train to stop anytime soon.
Bye Bye Glove
2012-08-13 23:08:19 UTC
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Post by wy
Post by Tracey12
With Ryan on the ticket, the Tea Party wins hugely because he's a Tea
Party favorite.
But..
Now the Romney ticket looks more like Traditional America vs.
Socialist Europe with Obama being the radical socialist.
The left must be freaking
I'm still waiting for Obama to turn radical socialist.
That happened years ago:

http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/politics/item/11565-obama-honors-top-socialist-dolores-huerta-with-medal-of-freedom

Obama Honors Top Socialist Dolores Huerta with Medal of Freedom
Post by wy
He's got trouble being a true liberal.
Not really:

http://cnsnews.com/node/37539

Obama has said he will raise taxes on people making a minimum of
$250,000 – and that includes small businesses that file taxes as
individuals.

“It’s not that I want to punish your success, I just want to make sure
that everybody who is behind you, that they’ve got a chance at success
too,” Obama told the plumber.

“My attitude is that if the economy’s good for folks from the bottom
up, it’s going be good for everybody. If you’ve got a plumbing business,
you’re gonna be better off if you’ve got a whole bunch of customers who
can afford to hire you, and right now everybody’s so pinched that
business is bad for everybody, and I think when you spread the wealth
around, it’s good for everybody."
Post by wy
No matter. Obama will be re-elected
because 90% of America won't be able to connect with Richie Rich and
his cartoon sidekick "Goofy" Ryan.
90% of American are NOT class warriors like you disgusting libitards.
Post by wy
+ The only reason obammy might win is because there are now
more takers than givers. And the takers don't want the gravy
train to stop anytime soon.
There may be truth to that, we'll have to hope more people are
responsible than that.
Tracey12
2012-08-13 23:08:20 UTC
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Post by Tracey12
With Ryan on the ticket, the Tea Party wins hugely because he's a Tea
Party favorite.
But..
Now the Romney ticket looks more like Traditional America vs.
Socialist Europe with Obama being the radical socialist.
The left must be freaking
I'm still waiting for Obama to turn radical socialist.  He's got
trouble being a true liberal.  No matter. Obama will be re-elected
because 90% of America won't be able to connect with Richie Rich and
his cartoon sidekick "Goofy" Ryan.
+ The only reason obammy might win is because there are now
more takers than givers.  And the takers don't want the gravy
train to stop anytime soon.
Yes, now that there are so many post WWII retirees, the need for
financial security is very great, and the last thing they want is to
have their tiny checks taken from them because most are living on
disability or Social Security. If Mitt reassured these folks over and
over that he is not going to take from them and the poorest Americans,
he would get their votes because they know Romney and Ryan are the
best for America.
Mike Smith
2012-08-14 10:10:48 UTC
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Post by wy
Post by Tracey12
With Ryan on the ticket, the Tea Party wins hugely because he's a Tea
Party favorite.
But..
Now the Romney ticket looks more like Traditional America vs.
Socialist Europe with Obama being the radical socialist.
The left must be freaking
I'm still waiting for Obama to turn radical socialist. He's got
trouble being a true liberal. No matter. Obama will be re-elected
because 90% of America won't be able to connect with Richie Rich and
his cartoon sidekick "Goofy" Ryan.
Obama getting owned by Ryan:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=SJ_QshAn2Gs&NR=1

Obama getting schooled by Ryan:



This is no contest. Romney/Ryan will win in a landslide.

Mike Smith
Mike Smith
2012-08-14 12:29:47 UTC
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Post by Mike Smith
Post by wy
Post by Tracey12
With Ryan on the ticket, the Tea Party wins hugely because he's a Tea
Party favorite.
But..
Now the Romney ticket looks more like Traditional America vs.
Socialist Europe with Obama being the radical socialist.
The left must be freaking
I'm still waiting for Obama to turn radical socialist. He's got
trouble being a true liberal. No matter. Obama will be re-elected
because 90% of America won't be able to connect with Richie Rich and
his cartoon sidekick "Goofy" Ryan.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=SJ_QshAn2Gs&NR=1
http://youtu.be/MNKfbO_PvkI
This is no contest. Romney/Ryan will win in a landslide.
Mike Smith
If you will notice, the piece of shit we have as our president is
flipping Ryan off at the 5:25 mark.



Mike Smith
Y***@Jurgis.net
2012-08-14 15:20:02 UTC
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Post by Mike Smith
This is no contest. Romney/Ryan will win in a landslide.
Not in this universe.

Romney, in order to STILL shore up his fractured base---chose Ryan

Rumney lost women, retirees, working class, minorities, latinos,
moderates----statistical sampling confirms it.

Rumney cannot win simply by glueing his base together.
Bye Bye Glove
2012-08-14 15:49:37 UTC
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Post by Y***@Jurgis.net
Not in this universe.
GARY ROSELLES (aka "***@idiot...") left-wing sociopath and author
of the following “views” on race, homosexuality, death-threats and,
lest we forget, killing govt. officials and teenage girls:

"She (Katherine Harris) should be at least shot" -- Gary Roselles

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.current-events.clinton.whitewater/msg/9448fa9e79d03c83?dmode=source

"I call Kathering[sic] Harris a nazi/fascist right wing ideologue
whore. 
What did we do to German nazis right wing whores?" -- Gary
Roselles

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.clinton/msg/9431827dde9eb727?dmode=source

“May a real american someday have the honor of putting a bullet
between her eyes." -- Gary Roselles on B. Robertson's teenage
daughter.

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.bush/msg/346a12114c9884ee?hl=en&dmode=source

What the fuck would a dumb cocksucker like (Distinguished African-
American Scholar, Thomas) Sowell, who sits out at Stanford, never
having 
worked a day in his Uncle Tom life, know anything?" -- Gary
Roselles

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.rush-limbaugh/msg/652f875e53203e8e?hl=en&

"Both are traitors to their race" -- Race Purist Gary Roselles on the
importance 
of Race Loyalty

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.rush-limbaugh/msg/90646e9b4da37793

"You actually think that placing blackskinned, white thinking people
is going to gain anything with real minorities?" -- Gary Roselles,
Racist

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.current-events.clinton.whitewater/msg/1b116fa0999182fb
(see header)

"Them brown niggers need to be taken out" -- Gary Roselles, Racist

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.republicans/msg/421a0f9263435ca4

"He (African-American scholar Thomas Sowell) goes against his own
kind." Race loyalist Gary Roselles, insisting once again that “them
blacks” should "stick 
to their own kind"

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.society.liberalism/msg/17fcf97abe2e4ee2?dmode=source

"His appointment will bridge nothing. It's apparant he's being an
uncle tom to appease voters." -- White trash, racist asshole Gary
Roselles 
slurs African-American Hero General Colin Powell

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.current-events.clinton.whitewater/msg/3bdf04c3586323ed?dmode=source
(see header

"Group Negro Poster Pyjamarma admits to being a coconut headed coon"
-- Gary Roselles, pathetic racist

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.rush-limbaugh/msg/d9ccfefc35328516?dmode=source

"Say "yes Massa", Uncle Tom." – Vile racist Gary Roselles pathetically
mocks and 
slurs prominent African-American man-of-the-cloth Jesse Lee
Peterson

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.current-events.clinton.whitewater/msg/ecc4d1339f7a1c79?hl=en&dmode=source

"How does a pampered, Stanford based, Scaife funded, Uncle Tom make
judgements on "the bottom", McFly?" -- Another day, another racial
slur on an educated, successful, independent black man from Gary
Roselles

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.current-events.clinton.whitewater/msg/67c195d05ad55e39?hl=en&dmode=source

"I consider hating RIGHT WING nazi/fascist fucks like you a God
inspired emotion."

"Hating RIGHT WINGERS is doing God's work, Dumbapropyl" -- Pure,
venomous hate-speech from "god-inspired" whackjob Gary Roselles

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.clinton/msg/9431827dde9eb727?dmode=source

Yeah, there's a real fucking credible authority----Hitchens a faggot
socialist." -- Gary Roselles, “f”-bomb droppin’ rabid homophobe

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.society.conservatism/msg/d2ab5e412f7ed8e7?dmode=source

"You're like that kid that has just been told that's not a hot-dog
he's sucking on" -- Gary Roselles, Pedophile, admits forcing oral
copulation on a child

http://groups.google.com/group/seattle.politics/msg/fcf8198215ac03f2?as_ums
Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E
2012-08-14 15:59:19 UTC
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Post by Y***@Jurgis.net
Post by Mike Smith
This is no contest. Romney/Ryan will win in a landslide.
Not in this universe.
Romney, in order to STILL shore up his fractured base---chose Ryan
Rumney lost women, retirees, working class, minorities, latinos,
moderates----statistical sampling confirms it.
Rumney cannot win simply by glueing his base together.
Video: THIS is what the left can expect from Ryan and it terrifies
them.




Save America. Strangle a liberal.
Al
2012-08-14 23:21:30 UTC
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Post by Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E
Post by Y***@Jurgis.net
Post by Mike Smith
This is no contest. Romney/Ryan will win in a landslide.
Not in this universe.
Romney, in order to STILL shore up his fractured base---chose Ryan
Rumney lost women, retirees, working class, minorities, latinos,
moderates----statistical sampling confirms it.
Rumney cannot win simply by glueing his base together.
Video: THIS is what the left can expect from Ryan and it terrifies
them.
http://youtu.be/tRgmrz3SeBU
Save America. Strangle a liberal.
If you encounter a liberal on the street, slap him. He'll know why.
Billy
2012-08-15 21:11:00 UTC
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<4ce9ab0d-5a8c-443f-a9a6-***@t4g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>,
"Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E"
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Post by Y***@Jurgis.net
Post by Mike Smith
This is no contest. Romney/Ryan will win in a landslide.
Not in this universe.
Romney, in order to STILL shore up his fractured base---chose Ryan
Rumney lost women, retirees, working class, minorities, latinos,
moderates----statistical sampling confirms it.
Rumney cannot win simply by glueing his base together.
Video: THIS is what the left can expect from Ryan and it terrifies
them.
http://youtu.be/tRgmrz3SeBU
Save America. Strangle a liberal.
Vote Republican

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or
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HeyBub
2012-08-14 22:48:37 UTC
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Post by Y***@Jurgis.net
Post by Mike Smith
This is no contest. Romney/Ryan will win in a landslide.
Not in this universe.
Romney, in order to STILL shore up his fractured base---chose Ryan
Rumney lost women, retirees, working class, minorities, latinos,
moderates----statistical sampling confirms it.
Rumney cannot win simply by glueing his base together.
You are correct in pointing out this is a "base" election, with each
candidate receiving 45-46% of the electorate and "undecideds" in single
digits. The candidate that turns out the greater part of his base will win.

Sampling - and polling - shows a double-digit lead for the GOP in
"enthuasim." The GOP base is more highly motivated than the Obama camp.

I'm printing bumper stickers:

Are you more fucked up
than you were 4 years ago?
FirstPost
2012-08-14 22:57:59 UTC
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Post by HeyBub
Post by Y***@Jurgis.net
Post by Mike Smith
This is no contest. Romney/Ryan will win in a landslide.
Not in this universe.
Romney, in order to STILL shore up his fractured base---chose Ryan
Rumney lost women, retirees, working class, minorities, latinos,
moderates----statistical sampling confirms it.
Rumney cannot win simply by glueing his base together.
You are correct in pointing out this is a "base" election, with each
candidate receiving 45-46% of the electorate and "undecideds" in single
digits. The candidate that turns out the greater part of his base will win.
Sampling - and polling - shows a double-digit lead for the GOP in
"enthuasim." The GOP base is more highly motivated than the Obama camp.
Are you more fucked up
than you were 4 years ago?
Don't be surprised in November to see a big difference in the vote
totals compared to what a lot of the over democrat sampled polls are
currently saying.
HeyBub
2012-08-15 02:30:31 UTC
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Post by FirstPost
Don't be surprised in November to see a big difference in the vote
totals compared to what a lot of the over democrat sampled polls are
currently saying.
Meh!

I won't be. It has been forever thus.
HeyBub
2012-08-15 11:58:12 UTC
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Post by HeyBub
Post by FirstPost
Don't be surprised in November to see a big difference in the vote
totals compared to what a lot of the over democrat sampled polls are
currently saying.
Meh!
I won't be. It has been forever thus.
Should have said: "It won't be. It has been forever thus." By that brief
statement I meant to offer some pithy insight that now escapes me.

I'm sorry for the confusion.

Evidently, my newsreader dropped the essential "t" perhaps to place it atop
a Christian church.
Al
2012-08-14 23:16:31 UTC
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Post by Y***@Jurgis.net
Post by Mike Smith
This is no contest. Romney/Ryan will win in a landslide.
Not in this universe.
Romney, in order to STILL shore up his fractured base---chose Ryan
Rumney lost women, retirees, working class, minorities, latinos,
moderates----statistical sampling confirms it.
Gallup has about the best track record in statistical sampling (they call it
a poll), rarely deviating by more than two points in presidential elections,
let's see just how bad Romney's gonna get pounded:

Gallup daily tracking for Aug 11-13

Romney 47%

Obama 45%


Oh my. Something's not right.


Historically, incumbency is good for 5% boost, but Obama - arguably the
greatest President ever even before he was elected - is two points in the
rear. How in the hell did THAT happen??
Post by Y***@Jurgis.net
Rumney cannot win simply by glueing his base together.
That's what they said about Reagan.
HeyBub
2012-08-15 02:42:00 UTC
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Post by Al
Gallup has about the best track record in statistical sampling (they
call it a poll), rarely deviating by more than two points in
presidential elections, let's see just how bad Romney's gonna get
Gallup daily tracking for Aug 11-13
Romney 47%
Obama 45%
Oh my. Something's not right.
Gallup samples "registered" voters. Rasmussen samples "likely" voters.
Rasmussen reports, as of today:
Romney - 47%
Other guy - 44%

This is a 3-day running average and Rasmussen goes on to say:
"This is the first daily update based entirely upon interviews conducted
after Wisconsin Congressman Paul Ryan was introduced as Mitt Romney's
running mate on Saturday. The announcement so far has had little impact on
the numbers."

The president's approval index (approve - disapprove) is today -19. That
means that 19% more of likely voters disapprove of what's-his-name than
approve. (The last time the president was on the plus side of the ledger was
in June of '09.)
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/daily_presidential_tracking_poll

As an aside, Romney & Obama are tied at 45% in Ohio with FOUR percent
undecided. Not to worry, though. Ohio has a Republican governor, John
Kasich, who is nominally in charge of the election machinery.
Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E
2012-08-14 15:52:29 UTC
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Post by Tracey12
With Ryan on the ticket, the Tea Party wins hugely because he's a Tea
Party favorite.
But..
Now the Romney ticket looks more like Traditional America vs.
Socialist Europe with Obama being the radical socialist.
The left must be freaking
I'm still waiting for Obama to turn radical socialist.  He's got
trouble being a true liberal.  No matter. Obama will be re-elected
because 90% of America won't be able to connect with Richie Rich and
his cartoon sidekick "Goofy" Ryan.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=SJ_QshAn2Gs&NR=1
http://youtu.be/MNKfbO_PvkI
This is no contest. Romney/Ryan will win in a landslide.
Mike Smith- Hide quoted text -
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I can't wait till Oct 6th. The debate between Vice-President Ryand and
Joe Biden. A friggin' bloodbath !!
bjacoby
2012-08-14 21:39:12 UTC
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On 8/14/2012 11:52 AM, Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E
Post by Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E
Post by Mike Smith
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I can't wait till Oct 6th. The debate between Vice-President Ryand and
Joe Biden. A friggin' bloodbath !!
You said it! I couldn't believe in the last election the Dems had a
huge sexist rant of how Palin was so "dumb" and then to show us all what
a really "smart" candidate looks like, they run Slow Joe! And I couldn't
believe the way the media kept going after Palin even running the SNL
Comedy sketch to confuse the gullible public and make them think she
said those things, but not ten seconds appeared of the thousand times
Obama had to poke Slow Joe in the ribs because he was saying something
totally stooopid!
Billy
2012-08-15 21:26:54 UTC
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Post by wy
Post by Tracey12
With Ryan on the ticket, the Tea Party wins hugely because he's a Tea
Party favorite.
But..
Now the Romney ticket looks more like Traditional America vs.
Socialist Europe with Obama being the radical socialist.
The left must be freaking
I'm still waiting for Obama to turn radical socialist. He's got
trouble being a true liberal. No matter. Obama will be re-elected
because 90% of America won't be able to connect with Richie Rich and
his cartoon sidekick "Goofy" Ryan.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=SJ_QshAn2Gs&NR=1
http://youtu.be/MNKfbO_PvkI
This is no contest. Romney/Ryan will win in a landslide.
Mike Smith
The Republicans plan to cut social programs, yet raise the budget, and
the debt? More for bombs, less for school lunches?
-----

While claims that Ryan is slashing the budget are questionable, there
are studies to back up claims that the Republicans' tax plans benefit
the wealthy more than others.

A June study from the Joint Economic Committee -- which is chaired by a
Democrat -- claims middle-class married couples could pay at least an
extra $1,300 under Ryan's plan, while those earning more than $1 million
a year could see a nearly $290,000 cut.

According to an Aug. 1 study released by the Tax Policy Center, Romney's
tax plan would also include cuts that "predominantly favor upper-income
taxpayers."

It projected taxpayers making more than $1 million would see tax cuts
averaging $175,000. Those making between $75,000 and $100,000 would see
an average tax cut of $1,800. And those making under $30,000 would see
an average increase of $130, according to the report.
----

Undoubtedly, taxes will shift more to regressive consumer taxes (sales
tax), which also fall more heavily on the poor.
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sea of green
2012-08-15 23:21:26 UTC
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The Republicans plan to cut
Go away, Auzzie troll.
Y***@Jurgis.net
2012-08-16 02:36:41 UTC
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serious part of building to a majority, he said, "The first thing
we've got to do is we all got to use the same language. We've got to
start talking about"_ and Newt said this hundreds of times_ "start
talking about a conservative opportunity society replacing the liberal
Welfare state." And he'd say, "Bang that language into your head. Use
it every night. Use the same words and pretty soon it will permeate to
the American people." And that was the right strategy.
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of these facts, all effective propagana has to limit itself only to a
very few points and use them like slogans until even the very last man
is able to imagine what is intended by such a word.
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AlleyCat
2012-08-16 03:25:57 UTC
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Did someone say stutter? Does he stutter on the word "stutter" if he
doesn't have a teleprompter? LOL


Billy
2012-08-16 05:10:05 UTC
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The Republicans plan to cut social program, but not the military.
Western countries spend 5 to 1 more on the military that Russia, and
China, and their allies combined. We should be able to whittle that back
to 2 to 1. If out spending them 2 to 1, from the greatest industrial
powers in the world, can't contain them, then we must have systemic
fraud, or incompetence of an order that can't be hidden.

For competition we need an educated work force. Our college graduates
are second to none in the world. Look up the nobel prizes, if you don't
believe me. We are making it more difficult, more costly, and less
rewarding for Americans to attend institutions of higher learning.

If we want to cut fat, look at our military-industrial complex.
Post by sea of green
Go away, Auzzie troll.
Don't cha know me? I'm your native son, you dipshit.

If you admitted that you got into politics because of the impact on you
of the philosopher of personal greed and egotism, Ayn Rand, but later
had to deny it because it was bad publicity, you might be Paul Ryan.

(That was because Ayn Rand was a nut case, and a slut. Look up Nathaniel
Branden. Ayn Rand want the government out of economics.

Goverment wasn't supposed to be able to tell you that you were cheating,
poisoning, or lying to the public. "Free Market' capitalism has never,
ever worked in a democracy for just that reason. In truth, "Free Market
capitalism (Neo-liberal economics) is anathema to Democracy.)

If you want to destroy social security for others, but after your father
died when you were 16, you used your father¹s social security survivor
benefits to help pay for your education at Miami University of Ohio . .
. you might be Paul Ryan.

If you say your budget plan was inspired by Roman Catholic teachings,
but but nearly 60 prominent Catholic thinkers and leaders condemned it
as heartless, cruel and un-Christian . . . you might be Paul Ryan.

If you claim to be a free marketeer but want to keep $40 billion in tax
breaks for Big Oil in the budget, you might be Paul Ryan. When it comes
to green energy, the Right says it has to be profitable on its own, but
won¹t give it a level playing field.

If you would raise taxes on the middle classes; but your budget would
allow your wealthy running mate Mitt Romney to pay almost nothing in
taxes, you might be Paul Ryan.

If you are against deficits in an economic downturn and during a
Democratic administration, but voted for all the measures that ran up
the deficit under Bush and erased Clinton¹s budget surplus, you might be
Paul Ryan.

If you say you are pro-life, but supported to the hilt an illegal and
unjustified US invasion and occupation of Iraq, which killed hundreds of
thousands of Iraqis, you might be Paul Ryan.

If you accused climate scientists of conspiring to ³intentionally
mislead the public on the issue of climate change,² but are yourself a
Koch brother-backed conspirator for the 1%, you might be Paul Ryan.

If your proof that climate change is an illusion is that it still snows
in the winter, you might be Paul Ryan.
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sea of green
2012-08-16 16:29:47 UTC
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On 8/15/2012 11:10 PM, Billy is a scumsucking Auzzie troll.
Billy
2012-08-15 21:41:06 UTC
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Post by Mike Smith
Post by wy
Post by Tracey12
With Ryan on the ticket, the Tea Party wins hugely because he's a Tea
Party favorite.
But..
Now the Romney ticket looks more like Traditional America vs.
Socialist Europe with Obama being the radical socialist.
The left must be freaking
I'm still waiting for Obama to turn radical socialist. He's got
trouble being a true liberal. No matter. Obama will be re-elected
because 90% of America won't be able to connect with Richie Rich and
his cartoon sidekick "Goofy" Ryan.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=SJ_QshAn2Gs&NR=1
http://youtu.be/MNKfbO_PvkI
This is no contest. Romney/Ryan will win in a landslide.
Mike Smith
Mikie, your back ;O)

If you admitted that you got into politics because of the impact on you
of the philosopher of personal greed and egotism, Ayn Rand, but later
had to deny it because it was bad publicity, you might be Paul Ryan.

If you want to destroy social security for others, but after your father
died when you were 16, you used your father¹s social security survivor
benefits to help pay for your education at Miami University of Ohio . .
. you might be Paul Ryan.

If you say your budget plan was inspired by Roman Catholic teachings,
but but nearly 60 prominent Catholic thinkers and leaders condemned it
as heartless, cruel and un-Christian . . . you might be Paul Ryan.

If you claim to be a free marketeer but want to keep $40 billion in tax
breaks for Big Oil in the budget, but when it comes to green energy, the
Right says it has to be profitable on its own, and you won¹t give it a
level playing field . . . you might be Paul Ryan.

If you would raise taxes on the middle classes; but your budget would
allow your wealthy running mate Mitt Romney to pay almost nothing in
taxes . . . you might be Paul Ryan.

If you are against deficits in an economic downturn and during a
Democratic administration, but voted for all the measures that ran up
the deficit under Bush and erased Clinton¹s budget surplus
. . . . . you might be Paul Ryan.

If you say you are pro-life, but supported to the hilt an illegal and
unjustified US invasion and occupation of Iraq, which killed hundreds of
thousands of Iraqis . . . . you might be Paul Ryan.

If you accused climate scientists of conspiring to ³intentionally
mislead the public on the issue of climate change,² but are yourself a
Koch brother-backed conspirator for the 1% . . . you might be Paul Ryan.

If your proof that climate change is an illusion is that it still snows
in the winter . . . you might be Paul Ryan.

Bwahahahahahaha
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Welcome to the New America.
http://youtu.be/hA736oK9FPg
or
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M.I.Wakefield
2012-08-15 22:11:38 UTC
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I don't know whether he is or not.

But I keep reading the original subject as "Ryan is a Great Prick", which
isn't really fair to someone where the worst thing anyone has had to say
about it him so far is that they think he's wrong.
Y***@Jurgis.net
2012-08-15 22:51:38 UTC
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Post by M.I.Wakefield
I don't know whether he is or not.
But I keep reading the original subject as "Ryan is a Great Prick", which
isn't really fair to someone where the worst thing anyone has had to say
about it him so far is that they think he's wrong.
It was a misprint

It was supposed to read: "Ryan is a great Prick"

Aside from that---his ayn Rand views of social darwinism and economics
is the worst it's ever been----even for rightwing ideologues of the
worst kind.
sea of green
2012-08-15 23:20:56 UTC
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GARY ROSELLES (aka "***@idiot...") left-wing sociopath and author
of the following “views” on race, homosexuality, death-threats and,
lest we forget, killing govt. officials and teenage girls:

"She (Katherine Harris) should be at least shot" -- Gary Roselles

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.current-events.clinton.whitewater/msg/9448fa9e79d03c83?dmode=source

"I call Kathering[sic] Harris a nazi/fascist right wing ideologue
whore. 
What did we do to German nazis right wing whores?" -- Gary
Roselles

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.clinton/msg/9431827dde9eb727?dmode=source

“May a real american someday have the honor of putting a bullet
between her eyes." -- Gary Roselles on B. Robertson's teenage
daughter.

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.bush/msg/346a12114c9884ee?hl=en&dmode=source

What the fuck would a dumb cocksucker like (Distinguished African-
American Scholar, Thomas) Sowell, who sits out at Stanford, never
having 
worked a day in his Uncle Tom life, know anything?" -- Gary
Roselles

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.rush-limbaugh/msg/652f875e53203e8e?hl=en&

"Both are traitors to their race" -- Race Purist Gary Roselles on the
importance 
of Race Loyalty

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.rush-limbaugh/msg/90646e9b4da37793

"You actually think that placing blackskinned, white thinking people
is going to gain anything with real minorities?" -- Gary Roselles,
Racist

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.current-events.clinton.whitewater/msg/1b116fa0999182fb
(see header)

"Them brown niggers need to be taken out" -- Gary Roselles, Racist

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.republicans/msg/421a0f9263435ca4

"He (African-American scholar Thomas Sowell) goes against his own
kind." Race loyalist Gary Roselles, insisting once again that “them
blacks” should "stick 
to their own kind"

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.society.liberalism/msg/17fcf97abe2e4ee2?dmode=source

"His appointment will bridge nothing. It's apparant he's being an
uncle tom to appease voters." -- White trash, racist asshole Gary
Roselles 
slurs African-American Hero General Colin Powell

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.current-events.clinton.whitewater/msg/3bdf04c3586323ed?dmode=source
(see header

"Group Negro Poster Pyjamarma admits to being a coconut headed coon"
-- Gary Roselles, pathetic racist

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.rush-limbaugh/msg/d9ccfefc35328516?dmode=source

"Say "yes Massa", Uncle Tom." – Vile racist Gary Roselles pathetically
mocks and 
slurs prominent African-American man-of-the-cloth Jesse Lee
Peterson

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.current-events.clinton.whitewater/msg/ecc4d1339f7a1c79?hl=en&dmode=source

"How does a pampered, Stanford based, Scaife funded, Uncle Tom make
judgements on "the bottom", McFly?" -- Another day, another racial
slur on an educated, successful, independent black man from Gary
Roselles

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.current-events.clinton.whitewater/msg/67c195d05ad55e39?hl=en&dmode=source

"I consider hating RIGHT WING nazi/fascist fucks like you a God
inspired emotion."

"Hating RIGHT WINGERS is doing God's work, Dumbapropyl" -- Pure,
venomous hate-speech from "god-inspired" whackjob Gary Roselles

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.clinton/msg/9431827dde9eb727?dmode=source

Yeah, there's a real fucking credible authority----Hitchens a faggot
socialist." -- Gary Roselles, “f”-bomb droppin’ rabid homophobe

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.society.conservatism/msg/d2ab5e412f7ed8e7?dmode=source

"You're like that kid that has just been told that's not a hot-dog
he's sucking on" -- Gary Roselles, Pedophile, admits forcing oral
copulation on a child

http://groups.google.com/group/seattle.politics/msg/fcf8198215ac03f2?as_ums
Y***@Jurgis.net
2012-08-16 02:35:51 UTC
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================================================================
"I believe today that I am acting in the sense of the Almighty Creator. By warding off the Jews I am fighting for the Lord's work."
[Adolph Hitler, Speech, Reichstag, 1936]

"I have followed [the Church] in giving our party program the character of unalterable finality, like the Creed. The Church has never allowed the Creed to be interfered with.
The faithful will swallow it whole, so long as logical reasoning is never allowed to be brought to bear on it."
[Adolf Hitler, from Rauschning, _The Voice of Destruction_, pp. 239-40]

"My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded by a few followers,...For as a Christian I have also a duty to my own people. And when I look on my people I see them work and work and toil and labor, and at the end of the week they have only for their wages wretchedness and misery. When I go out in the morning and see these men standing in their queues and look into their pinched faces, then I believe I would be no Christian, but a very devil, if I felt no pity for them, if I did not, as did our Lord two thousand years ago, turn against those by whom today this poor people are plundered and exposed."
[Adolf Hitler, speech in Munich on April 12, 1922, countering a political opponent, Count Lerchenfeld, who opposed antisemitism on his personal Christian feelings. Published in "My New Order", quoted in Freethought Today April 1990]


"I believe today that my conduct is in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator."
[Adolph Hitler, _Mein Kampf_, pp. 46]


"What we have to fight for...is the freedom and independence of the fatherland, so that our people may be enabled to fulfill the mission assigned to it by the Creator."
[Adolph Hitler, _Mein Kampf_, pp. 125]


"This human world of ours would be inconceivable without the practical existence of a religious belief."
[Adolph Hitler, _Mein Kampf_, pp.152]


"And the founder of Christianity made no secret indeed of his estimation of the Jewish people. When He found it necessary, He drove those enemies of the human race out of the Temple of God."
[Adolph Hitler, _Mein Kampf_, pp.174]

"Catholics and Protestants are fighting with one another... while the enemy of Aryan humanity and all Christendom is laughing up his sleeve."
[Adolph Hitler, _Mein Kampf_, pp.309]

"I am now as before a Catholic and will always remain so"
[Adolph Hitler, to Gen. Gerhard Engel, 1941]

"Any violence which does not spring from a spiritual base, will be wavering and uncertain. It lacks the stability which can only rest in a fanatical outlook."
[Adolph Hitler, _Mein Kampf_, p. 171]

"I had excellent opportunity to intoxicate myself with the solemn splendor of the brilliant church festivals. As was only natural, the abbot seemed to me, as the village priest had once seemed to my father, the highest and most desirable ideal."
[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 1]
Billy
2012-08-16 04:47:04 UTC
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of the following “views” on race, homosexuality, death-threats and,
"She (Katherine Harris) should be at least shot" -- Gary Roselles
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.current-events.clinton.whitewater/msg/9448f
a9e79d03c83?dmode=source
"I call Kathering[sic] Harris a nazi/fascist right wing ideologue
whore.
What did we do to German nazis right wing whores?" -- Gary
Roselles
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.clinton/msg/9431827dde9eb727?dmode
=source
“May a real american someday have the honor of putting a bullet
between her eyes." -- Gary Roselles on B. Robertson's teenage
daughter.
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.bush/msg/346a12114c9884ee?hl=en&dm
ode=source
What the fuck would a dumb cocksucker like (Distinguished African-
American Scholar, Thomas) Sowell, who sits out at Stanford, never
having
worked a day in his Uncle Tom life, know anything?" -- Gary
Roselles
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.rush-limbaugh/msg/652f875e53203e8e?hl=e
n&
"Both are traitors to their race" -- Race Purist Gary Roselles on the
importance
of Race Loyalty
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.rush-limbaugh/msg/90646e9b4da37793
"You actually think that placing blackskinned, white thinking people
is going to gain anything with real minorities?" -- Gary Roselles,
Racist
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.current-events.clinton.whitewater/msg/1b116
fa0999182fb
(see header)
"Them brown niggers need to be taken out" -- Gary Roselles, Racist
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.republicans/msg/421a0f9263435ca4
"He (African-American scholar Thomas Sowell) goes against his own
kind." Race loyalist Gary Roselles, insisting once again that “them
blacks” should "stick
to their own kind"
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.society.liberalism/msg/17fcf97abe2e4ee2?dmo
de=source
"His appointment will bridge nothing. It's apparant he's being an
uncle tom to appease voters." -- White trash, racist asshole Gary
Roselles
slurs African-American Hero General Colin Powell
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.current-events.clinton.whitewater/msg/3bdf0
4c3586323ed?dmode=source
(see header
"Group Negro Poster Pyjamarma admits to being a coconut headed coon"
-- Gary Roselles, pathetic racist
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.rush-limbaugh/msg/d9ccfefc35328516?dmod
e=source
"Say "yes Massa", Uncle Tom." – Vile racist Gary Roselles pathetically
mocks and
slurs prominent African-American man-of-the-cloth Jesse Lee
Peterson
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.current-events.clinton.whitewater/msg/ecc4d
1339f7a1c79?hl=en&dmode=source
"How does a pampered, Stanford based, Scaife funded, Uncle Tom make
judgements on "the bottom", McFly?" -- Another day, another racial
slur on an educated, successful, independent black man from Gary
Roselles
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.current-events.clinton.whitewater/msg/67c19
5d05ad55e39?hl=en&dmode=source
"I consider hating RIGHT WING nazi/fascist fucks like you a God
inspired emotion."
"Hating RIGHT WINGERS is doing God's work, Dumbapropyl" -- Pure,
venomous hate-speech from "god-inspired" whackjob Gary Roselles
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.clinton/msg/9431827dde9eb727?dmode
=source
Yeah, there's a real fucking credible authority----Hitchens a faggot
socialist." -- Gary Roselles, “f”-bomb droppin’ rabid homophobe
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.society.conservatism/msg/d2ab5e412f7ed8e7?d
mode=source
"You're like that kid that has just been told that's not a hot-dog
he's sucking on" -- Gary Roselles, Pedophile, admits forcing oral
copulation on a child
http://groups.google.com/group/seattle.politics/msg/fcf8198215ac03f2?as_ums
We should get you a muzzel.
--
Welcome to the New America.
http://youtu.be/hA736oK9FPg
or
E Pluribus Unum
Green Party Nominee Jill Stein & Running Mate, Cheri Honkala
<http://www.democracynow.org/2012/7/13/green_party_nominee_jill_stein_running>
sea of green
2012-08-16 16:30:01 UTC
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On 8/15/2012 10:47 PM, Billy is a scumsucking Auzzie troll.
Jean
2012-08-16 23:19:15 UTC
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Indicator that Republican Congress has Succeeded

Carloads of trash has dropped off the chart.

http://www.marketplace.org/topics/economy/tracking-economy-an
d-gdp-through-trash
--
'Hall of Fame' voters have trouble with photo ID http://goo.gl/0gKMR
Hiding Wealth

http://front.moveon.org/the-one-reagan-quote-that-republicans-dont-talk-about/
Al
2012-08-17 03:04:30 UTC
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Post by Jean
Indicator that Republican Congress has Succeeded
Carloads of trash has dropped off the chart.
http://www.marketplace.org/topics/economy/tracking-economy-an
d-gdp-through-trash
That's nuthin'

http://www.detroityes.com/home.htm
Billy
2012-08-17 18:19:00 UTC
Permalink
In article
Post by Jean
Indicator that Republican Congress has Succeeded
Carloads of trash has dropped off the chart.
Much like your citation.

Sorry, we can't find the page you're looking for

You may have discovered a broken link, an outdated result or an error on
our part. If you've typed in a URL, please make sure you entered the URL
correctly. URLs should all be typed in lower-case.
Post by Jean
http://www.marketplace.org/topics/economy/tracking-economy-an
d-gdp-through-trash
--
Welcome to the New America.
http://youtu.be/hA736oK9FPg
or
E Pluribus Unum
Green Party Nominee Jill Stein & Running Mate, Cheri Honkala
<http://www.democracynow.org/2012/7/13/green_party_nominee_jill_stein_running>
Pelican Pt.
2012-08-17 18:23:22 UTC
Permalink
Post by Dennis M
In article
Post by Jean
Indicator that Republican Congress has Succeeded
Carloads of trash has dropped off the chart.
Much like your citation.
Sorry, we can't find the page you're looking for
You may have discovered a broken link, an outdated result or an error on
our part. If you've typed in a URL, please make sure you entered the URL
correctly. URLs should all be typed in lower-case.
Post by Jean
http://www.marketplace.org/topics/economy/tracking-economy-an
d-gdp-through-trash
You're such a fucking MORON, Billy....learn to wrap the entire url:

http://www.marketplace.org/topics/economy/tracking-economy-and-gdp
through-trash

Kai Ryssdal: Sure, there were some economic numbers out this morning.
First-time claims for unemployment benefits: Meh. And housing starts:
Also meh.

But how 'bout this? Trash. Garbage. Waste. Refuse. Therein, my friends,
lies the economic truth. It came to me in a chart I saw online the other
day -- railroad carloads of trash, as correlated to GDP. And the
correlation is pretty close, too.

...

Ryssdal: Mike said there's something wrong in the underlying economy? As
bad as it's been since Lehman brothers is how wrong is what he figures.
Have a look yourself at the chart above.
HeyBub
2012-08-17 20:42:43 UTC
Permalink
Post by Pelican Pt.
Post by Dennis M
In article
Post by Jean
Indicator that Republican Congress has Succeeded
Carloads of trash has dropped off the chart.
Much like your citation.
Sorry, we can't find the page you're looking for
You may have discovered a broken link, an outdated result or an
error on our part. If you've typed in a URL, please make sure you
entered the URL correctly. URLs should all be typed in lower-case.
Post by Jean
http://www.marketplace.org/topics/economy/tracking-economy-an
d-gdp-through-trash
http://www.marketplace.org/topics/economy/tracking-economy-and-gdp
through-trash
Giggle.

A better solution is for you to learn how to display a url so that it
doesn't break.

Look at almost any of my posts for a demonstration.
Pelican Pt.
2012-08-17 20:56:37 UTC
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Post by HeyBub
Post by Pelican Pt.
Post by Dennis M
In article
Post by Jean
Indicator that Republican Congress has Succeeded
Carloads of trash has dropped off the chart.
Much like your citation.
Sorry, we can't find the page you're looking for
You may have discovered a broken link, an outdated result or an
error on our part. If you've typed in a URL, please make sure you
entered the URL correctly. URLs should all be typed in lower-case.
Post by Jean
http://www.marketplace.org/topics/economy/tracking-economy-an
d-gdp-through-trash
http://www.marketplace.org/topics/economy/tracking-economy-and-gdp
through-trash
Giggle.
A better solution is for you to learn how to display a url so that it
doesn't break.
Look at almost any of my posts for a demonstration.
Well there is always tinyurl...

http://www.marketplace.org/topics/economy/tracking-economy-and-gdp-through-trash

Or a few other basic methods...

Good catch, btw ;-)
Sanders Kaufman
2012-08-19 12:44:39 UTC
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Post by Pelican Pt.
Post by HeyBub
A better solution is for you to learn how to display a url so that it
doesn't break.
Look at almost any of my posts for a demonstration.
Well there is always tinyurl...
Using a service to write your URL's for you.
Tha's just sad.
Al
2012-08-19 14:35:30 UTC
Permalink
Post by Sanders Kaufman
Post by Pelican Pt.
Post by HeyBub
A better solution is for you to learn how to display a url so that it
doesn't break.
Look at almost any of my posts for a demonstration.
Well there is always tinyurl...
Using a service to write your URL's for you.
Tha's just sad.
Sadder still is having your mom was your underwear at your age.
George Kerby
2012-08-19 15:43:20 UTC
Permalink
On 8/19/12 9:35 AM, in article
Post by Al
Post by Sanders Kaufman
Post by Pelican Pt.
Post by HeyBub
A better solution is for you to learn how to display a url so that it
doesn't break.
Look at almost any of my posts for a demonstration.
Well there is always tinyurl...
Using a service to write your URL's for you.
Tha's just sad.
Sadder still is having your mom was your underwear at your age.
Or wearing his invisible "Auntie's" panties...
Dennis M
2012-08-19 14:42:09 UTC
Permalink
Post by Sanders Kaufman
Post by Pelican Pt.
Post by HeyBub
A better solution is for you to learn how to display a url so that it
doesn't break.
Look at almost any of my posts for a demonstration.
Well there is always tinyurl...
Using a service to write your URL's for you.
Tha's just sad.
Tinyurl is one of the stupidest things ever invented IMO. If you can't
paste two (or even three) parts of a URL together and get it right
you're either lazy or stupid (it isn't worth fooling around with the
margins of your newsreader either).
Pelican Pt.
2012-08-19 18:42:06 UTC
Permalink
Post by Dennis M
Post by Sanders Kaufman
Post by Pelican Pt.
Post by HeyBub
A better solution is for you to learn how to display a url so that it
doesn't break.
Look at almost any of my posts for a demonstration.
Well there is always tinyurl...
Using a service to write your URL's for you.
Tha's just sad.
Tinyurl is one of the stupidest things ever invented IMO. If you can't
paste two (or even three) parts of a URL together and get it right
you're either lazy or stupid (it isn't worth fooling around with the
margins of your newsreader either).
I tend to agree with you, but it is useful if you have a multi-line url
to share.
George Kerby
2012-08-19 19:29:34 UTC
Permalink
Post by Pelican Pt.
Post by Dennis M
Post by Sanders Kaufman
Post by Pelican Pt.
Post by HeyBub
A better solution is for you to learn how to display a url so that it
doesn't break.
Look at almost any of my posts for a demonstration.
Well there is always tinyurl...
Using a service to write your URL's for you.
Tha's just sad.
Tinyurl is one of the stupidest things ever invented IMO. If you can't
paste two (or even three) parts of a URL together and get it right
you're either lazy or stupid (it isn't worth fooling around with the
margins of your newsreader either).
I tend to agree with you, but it is useful if you have a multi-line url
to share.
Try these: < >

Works just fine...
HeyBub
2012-08-19 20:11:14 UTC
Permalink
Post by Pelican Pt.
Post by Dennis M
Post by Sanders Kaufman
Post by Pelican Pt.
Post by HeyBub
A better solution is for you to learn how to display a url so
that it doesn't break.
Look at almost any of my posts for a demonstration.
Well there is always tinyurl...
Using a service to write your URL's for you.
Tha's just sad.
Tinyurl is one of the stupidest things ever invented IMO. If you
can't paste two (or even three) parts of a URL together and get it
right you're either lazy or stupid (it isn't worth fooling around
with the margins of your newsreader either).
I tend to agree with you, but it is useful if you have a multi-line
url to share.
No, it is not. Here's a fairly long url (picked at random). Click on it and
you'll go to the right place.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/19/gun-buyback-in-queens-new-york-509-guns_n_1806846.html?utm_hp_ref=new-york

There is no need for tinyurl if you know how to post a url in the first
place.
packet drop
2012-08-19 20:17:45 UTC
Permalink
Post by HeyBub
Post by Pelican Pt.
Post by Dennis M
Post by Sanders Kaufman
Post by Pelican Pt.
Post by HeyBub
A better solution is for you to learn how to display a url so
that it doesn't break.
Look at almost any of my posts for a demonstration.
Well there is always tinyurl...
Using a service to write your URL's for you.
Tha's just sad.
Tinyurl is one of the stupidest things ever invented IMO. If you
can't paste two (or even three) parts of a URL together and get it
right you're either lazy or stupid (it isn't worth fooling around
with the margins of your newsreader either).
I tend to agree with you, but it is useful if you have a multi-line
url to share.
No, it is not. Here's a fairly long url (picked at random). Click on it and
you'll go to the right place.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/19/gun-buyback-in-queens-new-york-509-guns_n_1806846.html?utm_hp_ref=new-york
There is no need for tinyurl if you know how to post a url in the first
place.
Ah but you have missed the key benefit to tinyurl, the ability to
obfuscate the information contained in the url itself, thereby luring
unsuspecting readers to websites they'd otherwise ignore!

Needless to say, libs love tinyurl.
Dennis M
2012-08-19 23:06:45 UTC
Permalink
Post by packet drop
Post by HeyBub
Post by Pelican Pt.
Post by Dennis M
Post by Sanders Kaufman
Post by Pelican Pt.
Post by HeyBub
A better solution is for you to learn how to display a url so
that it doesn't break.
Look at almost any of my posts for a demonstration.
Well there is always tinyurl...
Using a service to write your URL's for you.
Tha's just sad.
Tinyurl is one of the stupidest things ever invented IMO. If you
can't paste two (or even three) parts of a URL together and get it
right you're either lazy or stupid (it isn't worth fooling around
with the margins of your newsreader either).
I tend to agree with you, but it is useful if you have a multi-line
url to share.
No, it is not. Here's a fairly long url (picked at random). Click on it and
you'll go to the right place.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/19/gun-buyback-in-queens-new-york-509-
guns_n_1806846.html?utm_hp_ref=new-york
There is no need for tinyurl if you know how to post a url in the first
place.
Ah but you have missed the key benefit to tinyurl, the ability to
obfuscate the information contained in the url itself, thereby luring
unsuspecting readers to websites they'd otherwise ignore!
Needless to say, libs love tinyurl.
I never click on a blind tinyurl link and if you think only libruls do
that you're FOS.
packet drop
2012-08-20 01:23:14 UTC
Permalink
Post by Dennis M
Post by packet drop
Post by HeyBub
Post by Pelican Pt.
Post by Dennis M
Post by Sanders Kaufman
Post by Pelican Pt.
Post by HeyBub
A better solution is for you to learn how to display a url so
that it doesn't break.
Look at almost any of my posts for a demonstration.
Well there is always tinyurl...
Using a service to write your URL's for you.
Tha's just sad.
Tinyurl is one of the stupidest things ever invented IMO. If you
can't paste two (or even three) parts of a URL together and get it
right you're either lazy or stupid (it isn't worth fooling around
with the margins of your newsreader either).
I tend to agree with you, but it is useful if you have a multi-line
url to share.
No, it is not. Here's a fairly long url (picked at random). Click on it and
you'll go to the right place.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/19/gun-buyback-in-queens-new-york-509-
guns_n_1806846.html?utm_hp_ref=new-york
There is no need for tinyurl if you know how to post a url in the first
place.
Ah but you have missed the key benefit to tinyurl, the ability to
obfuscate the information contained in the url itself, thereby luring
unsuspecting readers to websites they'd otherwise ignore!
Needless to say, libs love tinyurl.
I never click on a blind tinyurl link and if you think only libruls do
that you're FOS.
I think libs like to bury their partisan resources.

You're wise not to click on blind urls.
The Daring Dufas
2012-08-20 02:25:24 UTC
Permalink
Post by packet drop
Post by HeyBub
Post by Pelican Pt.
Post by Dennis M
Post by Sanders Kaufman
Post by Pelican Pt.
Post by HeyBub
A better solution is for you to learn how to display a url so
that it doesn't break.
Look at almost any of my posts for a demonstration.
Well there is always tinyurl...
Using a service to write your URL's for you.
Tha's just sad.
Tinyurl is one of the stupidest things ever invented IMO. If you
can't paste two (or even three) parts of a URL together and get it
right you're either lazy or stupid (it isn't worth fooling around
with the margins of your newsreader either).
I tend to agree with you, but it is useful if you have a multi-line
url to share.
No, it is not. Here's a fairly long url (picked at random). Click on it and
you'll go to the right place.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/19/gun-buyback-in-queens-new-york-509-guns_n_1806846.html?utm_hp_ref=new-york
There is no need for tinyurl if you know how to post a url in the first
place.
Ah but you have missed the key benefit to tinyurl, the ability to
obfuscate the information contained in the url itself, thereby luring
unsuspecting readers to websites they'd otherwise ignore!
Needless to say, libs love tinyurl.
I use tinyurl.com all the time and I'm not a member of the P.L.L.C.F. no
do I sympathize with them. tinyurl has a preview link that I often
use to assuage suspicions of anyone seeing it. The link first displays
the full address giving you the option of going on or not. ^_^

TDD
packet drop
2012-08-20 03:59:26 UTC
Permalink
Post by The Daring Dufas
Post by packet drop
Post by HeyBub
Post by Pelican Pt.
Post by Dennis M
Post by Sanders Kaufman
Post by Pelican Pt.
Post by HeyBub
A better solution is for you to learn how to display a url so
that it doesn't break.
Look at almost any of my posts for a demonstration.
Well there is always tinyurl...
Using a service to write your URL's for you.
Tha's just sad.
Tinyurl is one of the stupidest things ever invented IMO. If you
can't paste two (or even three) parts of a URL together and get it
right you're either lazy or stupid (it isn't worth fooling around
with the margins of your newsreader either).
I tend to agree with you, but it is useful if you have a multi-line
url to share.
No, it is not. Here's a fairly long url (picked at random). Click on it and
you'll go to the right place.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/19/gun-buyback-in-queens-new-york-509-guns_n_1806846.html?utm_hp_ref=new-york
There is no need for tinyurl if you know how to post a url in the first
place.
Ah but you have missed the key benefit to tinyurl, the ability to
obfuscate the information contained in the url itself, thereby luring
unsuspecting readers to websites they'd otherwise ignore!
Needless to say, libs love tinyurl.
I use tinyurl.com all the time and I'm not a member of the P.L.L.C.F. no
do I sympathize with them. tinyurl has a preview link that I often
use to assuage suspicions of anyone seeing it. The link first displays
the full address giving you the option of going on or not. ^_^
TDD
So why Do you need it?

Are you unable to paste a clean url in on your own?

It really only is an obfuscater.
The Daring Dufas
2012-08-20 04:39:26 UTC
Permalink
Post by packet drop
Post by The Daring Dufas
Post by packet drop
Post by HeyBub
Post by Pelican Pt.
Post by Dennis M
Post by Sanders Kaufman
Post by Pelican Pt.
Post by HeyBub
A better solution is for you to learn how to display a url so
that it doesn't break.
Look at almost any of my posts for a demonstration.
Well there is always tinyurl...
Using a service to write your URL's for you.
Tha's just sad.
Tinyurl is one of the stupidest things ever invented IMO. If you
can't paste two (or even three) parts of a URL together and get it
right you're either lazy or stupid (it isn't worth fooling around
with the margins of your newsreader either).
I tend to agree with you, but it is useful if you have a multi-line
url to share.
No, it is not. Here's a fairly long url (picked at random). Click on it and
you'll go to the right place.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/19/gun-buyback-in-queens-new-york-509-guns_n_1806846.html?utm_hp_ref=new-york
There is no need for tinyurl if you know how to post a url in the first
place.
Ah but you have missed the key benefit to tinyurl, the ability to
obfuscate the information contained in the url itself, thereby luring
unsuspecting readers to websites they'd otherwise ignore!
Needless to say, libs love tinyurl.
I use tinyurl.com all the time and I'm not a member of the P.L.L.C.F. no
do I sympathize with them. tinyurl has a preview link that I often
use to assuage suspicions of anyone seeing it. The link first displays
the full address giving you the option of going on or not. ^_^
TDD
So why Do you need it?
Are you unable to paste a clean url in on your own?
It really only is an obfuscater.
No, long URL's are easily broken when someone quotes another person's
posts. That and the differences in newsreaders which often breaks posted
links is why I use it. A tinyurl will survive a long cascade of quotes,
I never use it for obfuscation unless I'm pranking a friend and they
usually know it's a trap or a site that would make you scratch your eyes
out. The P.L.L.C.F. have no sense of humor so I don't waste jokes on
their ilk. ^_^

Oh yea, P.L.L.C.F. = Progressive Liberal Leftist Commiecrat Freaks, the
acronym saves a of typing. ^_^

TDD
Sanders Kaufman
2012-08-21 01:32:04 UTC
Permalink
I tend to agree with you, but it is useful if you have a multi-line url to
share.
For most folks, clicking on a long URL is no more or less difficult than
clicking a short one.
I'm amused by your skewed perspective that there's any difference in
usability whatsoever.

Do you find walking on a larger or smaller rug any more or less difficult,
as well?
How about walking under a larger cloud than a smaller one - any performance
hit?

Sanders Kaufman
2012-08-21 01:19:02 UTC
Permalink
Post by Dennis M
Tinyurl is one of the stupidest things ever invented IMO.
TinyURL is smart - it's users are stupid.
Pelican Pt.
2012-08-19 18:41:05 UTC
Permalink
Post by Sanders Kaufman
Post by Pelican Pt.
Post by HeyBub
A better solution is for you to learn how to display a url so that it
doesn't break.
Look at almost any of my posts for a demonstration.
Well there is always tinyurl...
Using a service to write your URL's for you.
Tha's just sad.
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Y***@Jurgis.net
2012-08-19 19:54:59 UTC
Permalink
On Sun, 19 Aug 2012 07:44:39 -0500, "Sanders Kaufman"
Post by Sanders Kaufman
Post by Pelican Pt.
Post by HeyBub
A better solution is for you to learn how to display a url so that it
doesn't break.
Look at almost any of my posts for a demonstration.
Well there is always tinyurl...
Using a service to write your URL's for you.
Tha's just sad.
So is a name like "pelican"
yogurt spank
2012-08-19 19:59:18 UTC
Permalink
On 8/19/2012 1:54 PM, ***@Jurgis.net wrote:


Gary 'Yoorgloon" Roselles -- left-wing sociopath and author of the
following “views” on race, homosexuality and killing government
officials and teenage girls:

"She (Katherine Harris) should be at least shot" -- Gary Roselles

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.current-events.clinton.whitewater/msg/9448fa9e79d03c83?dmode=source

"I call Kathering[sic] Harris a nazi/fascist right wing ideologue
whore. 
What did we do to German nazis right wing whores?" -- Gary
Roselles

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.clinton/msg/9431827dde9eb727?dmode=source

“May a real american someday have the honor of putting a bullet
between her eyes." -- Gary Roselles on B. Robertson's teenage
daughter.

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.bush/msg/346a12114c9884ee?hl=en&dmode=source

What the fuck would a dumb cocksucker like (Distinguished African-
American Scholar, Thomas) Sowell, who sits out at Stanford, never
having 
worked a day in his Uncle Tom life, know anything?" -- Gary
Roselles

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.rush-limbaugh/msg/652f875e53203e8e?hl=en&

"Both are traitors to their race" -- Race Purist Gary Roselles on the
importance 
of Race Loyalty

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.rush-limbaugh/msg/90646e9b4da37793

"You actually think that placing blackskinned, white thinking people
is going to gain anything with real minorities?" -- Gary Roselles,
Racist

“Bush’s Uncle Tom Cabinet A Good Move For GOP” – Gary Roselles, Racist

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.current-events.clinton.whitewater/msg/1b116fa0999182fb
(see header)

"Them brown niggers need to be taken out" -- Gary Roselles, Racist

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.republicans/msg/421a0f9263435ca4
(see header)

"He (African-American scholar Thomas Sowell) goes against his own
kind." Race loyalist Gary Roselles, insisting once again that “them
blacks” should "stick 
to their own kind"

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.society.liberalism/msg/17fcf97abe2e4ee2?dmode=source

"His appointment will bridge nothing. It's apparant he's being an
uncle tom to appease voters." -- White trash, racist asshole Gary
Roselles 
slurs African-American Hero General Colin Powell

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.current-events.clinton.whitewater/msg/3bdf04c3586323ed?dmode=source

"Group Negro Poster Pyjamarma admits to being a coconut headed coon"
-- Gary Roselles, pathetic racist

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.rush-limbaugh/msg/d9ccfefc35328516?dmode=source
(see header)

"Say "yes Massa", Uncle Tom." – Vile racist Gary Roselles pathetically
mocks and 
slurs prominent African-American man-of-the-cloth Jesse Lee
Peterson

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.current-events.clinton.whitewater/msg/ecc4d1339f7a1c79?hl=en&dmode=source

"How does a pampered, Stanford based, Scaife funded, Uncle Tom make
judgements on "the bottom", McFly?" -- Another day, another racial
slur on an educated, successful, independent black man from Gary
Roselles

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.current-events.clinton.whitewater/msg/67c195d05ad55e39?hl=en&dmode=source

"I consider hating RIGHT WING nazi/fascist fucks like you a God
inspired emotion."

"Hating RIGHT WINGERS is doing God's work, Dumbapropyl" -- Pure,
venomous hate-speech from "god-inspired" whackjob Gary Roselles

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.clinton/msg/9431827dde9eb727?dmode=source

Yeah, there's a real fucking credible authority----Hitchens a faggot
socialist." -- Gary Roselles, “f”-bomb droppin’ rabid homophobe

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.society.conservatism/msg/d2ab5e412f7ed8e7?dmode=source

"You're like that kid that has just been told that's not a hot-dog
he's sucking on" -- Gary Roselles, Pedophile, admits forcing oral
copulation on a child

http://groups.google.com/group/seattle.politics/msg/fcf8198215ac03f2?as_ums
Y***@Jurgis.net
2012-08-19 23:54:22 UTC
Permalink
On Sun, 19 Aug 2012 13:59:18 -0600, yogurt spank in wingnut dreams
==========================================================
Debt Crisis Timeline:

1969: Under Republican president Richard Nixon, the Federal
government goes into debt. This is not the first time we have run a
deficit, but it is the first one to last for more than just a few
years. A limit, a debt ceiling, is put on it.

1980: Ronald Reagan runs for president, promising a balanced budget

1981 - 1989: With support from congressional Republicans, Reagan runs
enormous deficits. Adding $2 trillion to the debt, increasing its size
by 186%, the largest percentage increase in any 8-year period. During
this time, the debt ceiling is raised 17 times, without hassles or
haggling, without special deals, without promises to cut anything.
Many social programs are cut, accompanied by the largest tax increase
in history, but this is not tied to raising the debt ceiling.

1993: Bill Clinton passes economic plan that lowers deficit, gets
zero votes from congressional Republicans.

1993 - 1998: The debt ceiling is raised 4 times, without hassles or
haggling, without special deals, without promises to cut anything.

1998: U.S. deficit disappears for the first time in three decades.
Debt clock is unplugged.

2000: George W. Bush runs for president, promising to maintain a
balanced budget.

2001: The Congressional Budget Office (CBO) shows the United States
is on track to pay off the entirety of its national debt within a
decade.

2001 - 2009: With support from congressional Republicans, Bush runs
enormous deficits, adds nearly $5 trillion to the debt. This increase
of 72% is a distant second to Reagan's record-setting increase. Along
with this, the debt ceiling is raised 7 times, without hassles or
haggling, without special deals, without promises to cut anything.

2002: Dick Cheney declares, “Deficits don’t matter.” Congressional
Republicans agree, approving tax cuts, two wars, and Medicare
expansion without even trying to pay for them.

2009: Barack Obama inherits $1.3 trillion deficit from Bush;
Republicans immediately condemn Obama’s fiscal irresponsibility.

2009 - 2010: Congressional Democrats unveil several domestic policy
initiatives — including health care reform, cap and trade, DREAM Act —
which would lower the deficit. GOP opposes all of them, while
continuing to push for deficit reduction.

September 2010: In Obama’s first fiscal year, the deficit shrinks by
$122 billion. Republicans again condemn Obama’s fiscal
irresponsibility.

October 2010: S&P endorses the nation’s AAA rating with a stable
outlook, saying the United States looks to be in solid fiscal shape
for the foreseeable future.

November 2010: Republicans win a U.S. House majority, citing the need
for fiscal responsibility.

December 2010: Congressional Republicans demand extension of Bush tax
cuts, relying entirely on deficit financing. GOP continues to accuse
Obama of fiscal irresponsibility.

March 2011: Congressional Republicans declare intention to hold full
faith and credit of the United States hostage — a move without
precedent in American history — until massive debt-reduction plan is
approved.

July 2011: Obama offers Republicans a $4 trillion debt-reduction
deal. GOP refuses, pushes debt-ceiling standoff until the last
possible day, rattling international markets.

August 2011: S&P downgrades U.S. debt, citing GOP refusal to consider
new revenues. Republicans rejoice and blame Obama for fiscal
irresponsibility
yogurt spank
2012-08-20 01:22:31 UTC
Permalink
Post by Y***@Jurgis.net
Debt Crisis
Gary 'Yoorgloon" Roselles -- left-wing sociopath and author of the
following “views” on race, homosexuality and killing government
officials and teenage girls:

"She (Katherine Harris) should be at least shot" -- Gary Roselles

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.current-events.clinton.whitewater/msg/9448fa9e79d03c83?dmode=source

"I call Kathering[sic] Harris a nazi/fascist right wing ideologue
whore. 
What did we do to German nazis right wing whores?" -- Gary
Roselles

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.clinton/msg/9431827dde9eb727?dmode=source

“May a real american someday have the honor of putting a bullet
between her eyes." -- Gary Roselles on B. Robertson's teenage
daughter.

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.bush/msg/346a12114c9884ee?hl=en&dmode=source

What the fuck would a dumb cocksucker like (Distinguished African-
American Scholar, Thomas) Sowell, who sits out at Stanford, never
having 
worked a day in his Uncle Tom life, know anything?" -- Gary
Roselles

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.rush-limbaugh/msg/652f875e53203e8e?hl=en&

"Both are traitors to their race" -- Race Purist Gary Roselles on the
importance 
of Race Loyalty

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.rush-limbaugh/msg/90646e9b4da37793

"You actually think that placing blackskinned, white thinking people
is going to gain anything with real minorities?" -- Gary Roselles,
Racist

“Bush’s Uncle Tom Cabinet A Good Move For GOP” – Gary Roselles, Racist

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.current-events.clinton.whitewater/msg/1b116fa0999182fb
(see header)

"Them brown niggers need to be taken out" -- Gary Roselles, Racist

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.republicans/msg/421a0f9263435ca4
(see header)

"He (African-American scholar Thomas Sowell) goes against his own
kind." Race loyalist Gary Roselles, insisting once again that “them
blacks” should "stick 
to their own kind"

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.society.liberalism/msg/17fcf97abe2e4ee2?dmode=source

"His appointment will bridge nothing. It's apparant he's being an
uncle tom to appease voters." -- White trash, racist asshole Gary
Roselles 
slurs African-American Hero General Colin Powell

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.current-events.clinton.whitewater/msg/3bdf04c3586323ed?dmode=source

"Group Negro Poster Pyjamarma admits to being a coconut headed coon"
-- Gary Roselles, pathetic racist

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.rush-limbaugh/msg/d9ccfefc35328516?dmode=source
(see header)

"Say "yes Massa", Uncle Tom." – Vile racist Gary Roselles pathetically
mocks and 
slurs prominent African-American man-of-the-cloth Jesse Lee
Peterson

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.current-events.clinton.whitewater/msg/ecc4d1339f7a1c79?hl=en&dmode=source

"How does a pampered, Stanford based, Scaife funded, Uncle Tom make
judgements on "the bottom", McFly?" -- Another day, another racial
slur on an educated, successful, independent black man from Gary
Roselles

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.current-events.clinton.whitewater/msg/67c195d05ad55e39?hl=en&dmode=source

"I consider hating RIGHT WING nazi/fascist fucks like you a God
inspired emotion."

"Hating RIGHT WINGERS is doing God's work, Dumbapropyl" -- Pure,
venomous hate-speech from "god-inspired" whackjob Gary Roselles

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.clinton/msg/9431827dde9eb727?dmode=source

Yeah, there's a real fucking credible authority----Hitchens a faggot
socialist." -- Gary Roselles, “f”-bomb droppin’ rabid homophobe

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.society.conservatism/msg/d2ab5e412f7ed8e7?dmode=source

"You're like that kid that has just been told that's not a hot-dog
he's sucking on" -- Gary Roselles, Pedophile, admits forcing oral
copulation on a child

http://groups.google.com/group/seattle.politics/msg/fcf8198215ac03f2?as_ums
Billy
2012-08-17 18:23:43 UTC
Permalink
In article
Post by Jean
Indicator that Republican Congress has Succeeded
Carloads of trash has dropped off the chart.
http://www.marketplace.org/topics/economy/tracking-economy-an
d-gdp-through-trash
OK. Got it too work. Interesting hypothesis.

McDonough: Exactly. On a weekly basis -- that's what's even more
interesting about it. When you think about the concept of using trash as
a proxy for GDP, it's not a leading indicator. If anything, maybe it's a
slightly lagging indicator, because you have to wait for people to throw
things out, possibly.

----

Like when they lose their homes.
--
Welcome to the New America.
http://youtu.be/hA736oK9FPg
or
E Pluribus Unum
Green Party Nominee Jill Stein & Running Mate, Cheri Honkala
<http://www.democracynow.org/2012/7/13/green_party_nominee_jill_stein_running>
Pelican Pt.
2012-08-17 18:37:28 UTC
Permalink
Post by Dennis M
In article
Post by Jean
Indicator that Republican Congress has Succeeded
Carloads of trash has dropped off the chart.
http://www.marketplace.org/topics/economy/tracking-economy-an
d-gdp-through-trash
OK. Got it too work. Interesting hypothesis.
McDonough: Exactly. On a weekly basis -- that's what's even more
interesting about it. When you think about the concept of using trash as
a proxy for GDP, it's not a leading indicator. If anything, maybe it's a
slightly lagging indicator, because you have to wait for people to throw
things out, possibly.
----
Like when they lose their homes.
And Obama's record there?

Not so good;


http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/obameter/promise/15/create-a-foreclosure-prevention-fund-for-homeowner/

The Obameter

Create a foreclosure prevention fund for homeowners


Create a $10 billion fund to help homeowners refinance or sell their
homes. "The Fund will not help speculators, people who bought vacation
homes or people who falsely represented their incomes."


Sources:

"Obama: Protecting Home Ownership and Cracking Down on Mortgage Fraud"


Subjects: Economy, Housing, PolitiFact's Top Promises


Updates:


Foreclosure prevention fund a “colossal failure,” special inspector says

Updated: Thursday, March 31st, 2011 | By Angie Drobnic Holan

When it comes to President Barack Obama's promise to create a
foreclosure prevention fund, he's kept to the letter of law, but his
administration has completely failed to meet its spirit. For that, we're
moving this our rating to Promise Broken.


Let us explain.

Back during the campaign, Obama said he would create a $10 billion
fund to help homeowners facing foreclosure. "Too many families are
unable to refinance because no one will lend to them, and they are
unable to sell their homes because the housing market has fallen," reads
as statement of policy from Obama's 2008 campaign. "As president, Obama
will fight to ensure more Americans can achieve and protect the dream of
home ownership." We named it one of our top promises, among the most
significant campaign pledges Obama made.

And soon after his election, Obama outdid the promise of $10 billion,
creating a foreclosure prevention fund that totaled $75 billion, paid
for with funds from the Troubled Asset Relief Program (TARP) and the
government sponsored mortgage giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.
Officials said the fund could help 9 million homeowners. We gave Obama
a Promise Kept.

But as many months went by, the program never lived up to its promise.
As of January 2011, the program had given permanent loan modifications
to only about 500,000 homeowners.

The news website ProPublica has extensively investigated the program
and reached a number of dismal conclusions.

"With millions of homeowners still struggling to stay in their homes,
the Obama administration"s $75 billion foreclosure prevention program
has been weakened, perhaps fatally, by lax oversight and a posture of
cooperation—rather than enforcement—with the nation's biggest banks,"
ProPublica reported. "Those banks, Bank of America, Wells Fargo,
JPMorgan Chase, and Citibank, service the majority of mortgages."

As we were considering whether to change the rating on this promise,
the special inspector general for the Troubled Asset Relief Program,
Neil M. Barofsky, penned a damning op-ed in the New York Times, calling
the housing program "a colossal failure," blaming a lack of enforcement
on the part of the U.S. Treasury Department.

"Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner has acknowledged that the program
‘won't come close' to fulfilling its original expectations, that its
incentives are not ‘powerful enough' and that the mortgage servicers are
‘still doing a terribly inadequate job,;" Barofsky wrote. "But Treasury
officials refuse to address these shortfalls. Instead they continue to
stubbornly maintain that the program is a success and needs no material
change, effectively assuring that Treasury's most specific Main Street
promise will not be honored."

The evidence has been mounting for some time that the foreclosure
prevention fund has fallen far short of its goals. If it ever rights
itself, we'd certainly be willing to reconsider our rating. But today,
it hasn't helped many homeowners faced with losing their houses. We
conclude it's a Promise Broken.

Sources:

ProPublica, Govt's Loan Mod Program Crippled by Lax Oversight and
Deference to Banks, Feb.17, 2011

ProPublica, Dems: Obama Broke Pledge to Force Banks to Help Homeowners,
Feb. 4, 2011

ProPublica, Eye on Loan Modifications, various reports on various dates

The New York Times, Where the Bailout Went Wrong, by Neil M. Barofsky,
March 30, 2011
sea of green
2012-08-15 23:21:57 UTC
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Bwahahahahahaha
Auzzie troll fart.
Billy
2012-08-16 04:45:17 UTC
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Post by Billy
Bwahahahahahaha
Auzzie troll fart.
Nope, local boy. Ask around.
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Welcome to the New America.
http://youtu.be/hA736oK9FPg
or
E Pluribus Unum
Green Party Nominee Jill Stein & Running Mate, Cheri Honkala
<http://www.democracynow.org/2012/7/13/green_party_nominee_jill_stein_running>
sea of green
2012-08-16 16:30:13 UTC
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On 8/15/2012 10:45 PM, Billy is a scumsucking Auzzie troll.
Billy
2012-08-16 05:11:47 UTC
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Post by Mike Smith
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Post by Tracey12
With Ryan on the ticket, the Tea Party wins hugely because he's a Tea
Party favorite.
But..
Now the Romney ticket looks more like Traditional America vs.
Socialist Europe with Obama being the radical socialist.
The left must be freaking
I'm still waiting for Obama to turn radical socialist. He's got
trouble being a true liberal. No matter. Obama will be re-elected
because 90% of America won't be able to connect with Richie Rich and
his cartoon sidekick "Goofy" Ryan.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=SJ_QshAn2Gs&NR=1
http://youtu.be/MNKfbO_PvkI
This is no contest. Romney/Ryan will win in a landslide.
Mike Smith
Mikie, your back ;O)
If you admitted that you got into politics because of the impact on you
of the philosopher of personal greed and egotism, Ayn Rand, but later
had to deny it because it was bad publicity, you might be Paul Ryan.
If you want to destroy social security for others, but after your father
died when you were 16, you used your father¹s social security survivor
benefits to help pay for your education at Miami University of Ohio . .
. you might be Paul Ryan.
If you say your budget plan was inspired by Roman Catholic teachings,
but but nearly 60 prominent Catholic thinkers and leaders condemned it
as heartless, cruel and un-Christian . . . you might be Paul Ryan.
If you claim to be a free marketeer but want to keep $40 billion in tax
breaks for Big Oil in the budget, but when it comes to green energy, the
Right says it has to be profitable on its own, and you won¹t give it a
level playing field . . . you might be Paul Ryan.
If you would raise taxes on the middle classes; but your budget would
allow your wealthy running mate Mitt Romney to pay almost nothing in
taxes . . . you might be Paul Ryan.
If you are against deficits in an economic downturn and during a
Democratic administration, but voted for all the measures that ran up
the deficit under Bush and erased Clinton¹s budget surplus
. . . . . you might be Paul Ryan.
If you say you are pro-life, but supported to the hilt an illegal and
unjustified US invasion and occupation of Iraq, which killed hundreds of
thousands of Iraqis . . . . you might be Paul Ryan.
If you accused climate scientists of conspiring to ³intentionally
mislead the public on the issue of climate change,² but are yourself a
Koch brother-backed conspirator for the 1% . . . you might be Paul Ryan.
If your proof that climate change is an illusion is that it still snows
in the winter . . . you might be Paul Ryan.
Bwahahahahahaha
It'll be great ;O)
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Welcome to the New America.
http://youtu.be/hA736oK9FPg
or
E Pluribus Unum
Green Party Nominee Jill Stein & Running Mate, Cheri Honkala
<http://www.democracynow.org/2012/7/13/green_party_nominee_jill_stein_running>
sea of green
2012-08-16 16:29:35 UTC
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On 8/15/2012 11:11 PM, Billy is a scumsucking Auzzie troll.
Dennis M
2012-08-13 23:06:01 UTC
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Post by Tracey12
With Ryan on the ticket, the Tea Party wins hugely because he's a
Tea Party favorite.
The Tea Party may win hugely but 47% of Americans have an unfavorable
view of the Tea Party.

The Romney/Munster ticket is going down in flames.
Bye Bye Glove
2012-08-13 23:13:22 UTC
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Post by Tracey12
With Ryan on the ticket, the Tea Party wins hugely because he's a
Tea Party favorite.
The Tea Party may win hugely but 47% of Americans have an unfavorable
view of the Tea Party.
Oh so sorry, the Tea Party is not running.
Post by Dennis M
The Romney/Munster ticket is going down in flames.
You Dems are so desperate now, lol.
Dennis M
2012-08-14 01:15:45 UTC
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Post by Bye Bye Glove
Post by Dennis M
In article
Post by Tracey12
With Ryan on the ticket, the Tea Party wins hugely because he's a
Tea Party favorite.
The Tea Party may win hugely but 47% of Americans have an unfavorable
view of the Tea Party.
Oh so sorry, the Tea Party is not running.
The hell it ain't, especially after Friday. It's running whether you
like it or not.
Post by Bye Bye Glove
Post by Dennis M
The Romney/Munster ticket is going down in flames.
You Dems are so desperate now, lol.
Rmoney is the desperate one, so paranoid about losing most of his base
that he picked some far-right ideologue who has little to offer
electorally.
Bye Bye Glove
2012-08-14 02:23:22 UTC
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Post by Dennis M
Post by Bye Bye Glove
Post by Dennis M
In article
Post by Tracey12
With Ryan on the ticket, the Tea Party wins hugely because he's a
Tea Party favorite.
The Tea Party may win hugely but 47% of Americans have an unfavorable
view of the Tea Party.
Oh so sorry, the Tea Party is not running.
The hell it ain't,
Cite the papers filed an their candidate.

Put it here, dipshit:__________________________________.
Post by Dennis M
Post by Bye Bye Glove
Post by Dennis M
The Romney/Munster ticket is going down in flames.
You Dems are so desperate now, lol.
Rmoney is the desperate
No, you stink of flop sweat luser fear.

You useless turdeater.
•R.Measures
2012-08-14 07:39:48 UTC
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Post by Dennis M
Post by Bye Bye Glove
Post by Dennis M
In article
Post by Tracey12
With Ryan on the ticket, the Tea Party wins hugely because he's a
Tea Party favorite.
The Tea Party may win hugely but 47% of Americans have an unfavorable
view of the Tea Party.
Oh so sorry, the Tea Party is not running.
The hell it ain't,
Cite the papers filed an their candidate.
Put it here, dipshit:__________________________________.
Post by Dennis M
Post by Bye Bye Glove
Post by Dennis M
The Romney/Munster ticket is going down in flames.
You Dems are so desperate now, lol.
Rmoney is the desperate
No, you stink of flop sweat luser fear.
You useless turdeater.
• _____
Bye Bye Glove
2012-08-14 15:48:13 UTC
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Post by Dennis M
Post by Bye Bye Glove
Post by Dennis M
In article
Post by Tracey12
With Ryan on the ticket, the Tea Party wins hugely because he's a
Tea Party favorite.
The Tea Party may win hugely but 47% of Americans have an unfavorable
view of the Tea Party.
Oh so sorry, the Tea Party is not running.
The hell it ain't,
Cite the papers filed an their candidate.
Put it here, dipshit:__________________________________.
Post by Dennis M
Post by Bye Bye Glove
Post by Dennis M
The Romney/Munster ticket is going down in flames.
You Dems are so desperate now, lol.
Rmoney is the desperate
No, you stink of flop sweat luser fear.
You useless turdeater.
• _____
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1047399/Barack-Obamas-half-brother-discovered-Kenya-living-dollar-month.html


Kenyan roots: Barack Obama

The youngest of Barack Obama’s half siblings has told of his shame about
living in a shack and existing on a dollar a month whilst his brother
plans to become the most powerful man in the world.
With the Democratic Convention in Denver just days away, Italian Vanity
Fair magazine tracked George Hussein Onyango Obama to a 6ft by 9ft
wooden shed in Kenya.


Read more:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1047399/Barack-Obamas-half-brother-discovered-Kenya-living-dollar-month.html#ixzz23Lv5QX4T
•R.Measures
2012-08-14 07:37:26 UTC
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Post by Dennis M
Post by Bye Bye Glove
Post by Dennis M
In article
Post by Tracey12
With Ryan on the ticket, the Tea Party wins hugely because he's a
Tea Party favorite.
The Tea Party may win hugely but 47% of Americans have an unfavorable
view of the Tea Party.
Oh so sorry, the Tea Party is not running.
The hell it ain't, especially after Friday. It's running whether you
like it or not.
Post by Bye Bye Glove
Post by Dennis M
The Romney/Munster ticket is going down in flames.
You Dems are so desperate now, lol.
Rmoney is the desperate one, so paranoid about losing most of his base
that he picked some far-right ideologue who has little to offer
electorally.
*** chortle. Selling Ryan's Medicare cuts to old folks in Florida will
surely require a divine miracle from the LdS "God".

"Lord, what fools these mortals be!" -- Puck.
--From A Midsummer Night's Dream (Act 3, scene 2) by Wm. Shakespeare .
Mike Smith
2012-08-14 10:16:27 UTC
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Post by Dennis M
Post by Bye Bye Glove
Post by Dennis M
In article
Post by Tracey12
With Ryan on the ticket, the Tea Party wins hugely because he's a
Tea Party favorite.
The Tea Party may win hugely but 47% of Americans have an unfavorable
view of the Tea Party.
Oh so sorry, the Tea Party is not running.
The hell it ain't, especially after Friday. It's running whether you
like it or not.
Post by Bye Bye Glove
Post by Dennis M
The Romney/Munster ticket is going down in flames.
You Dems are so desperate now, lol.
Rmoney is the desperate one, so paranoid about losing most of his base
that he picked some far-right ideologue who has little to offer
electorally.
*** chortle. Selling Ryan's Medicare cuts to old folks in Florida will
surely require a divine miracle from the LdS "God".
"Lord, what fools these mortals be!" -- Puck.
--From A Midsummer Night's Dream (Act 3, scene 2) by Wm. Shakespeare .
If you had educated yourself, you would not have made such a stupid
statement. Ryan has a plan to get to a balanced budget, eventually. No
one else has a game plan. His plan to save Medicare will work much
better that obama's $714 billion cut to Medicare.

Dennis is an emotionally-based moron and cannot understand basic
facts, logic, and/or common sense. He does not have the intelligence
required to understand any of this.

Mike Smith
•R.Measures
2012-08-14 16:48:44 UTC
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Post by Dennis M
Post by Bye Bye Glove
Post by Dennis M
In article
Post by Tracey12
With Ryan on the ticket, the Tea Party wins hugely because he's a
Tea Party favorite.
The Tea Party may win hugely but 47% of Americans have an unfavorable
view of the Tea Party.
Oh so sorry, the Tea Party is not running.
The hell it ain't, especially after Friday. It's running whether you
like it or not.
Post by Bye Bye Glove
Post by Dennis M
The Romney/Munster ticket is going down in flames.
You Dems are so desperate now, lol.
Rmoney is the desperate one, so paranoid about losing most of his base
that he picked some far-right ideologue who has little to offer
electorally.
*** chortle. Selling Ryan's Medicare cuts to old folks in Florida will
surely require a divine miracle from the LdS "God".
"Lord, what fools these mortals be!" -- Puck.
--From A Midsummer Night's Dream (Act 3, scene 2) by Wm. Shakespeare .
If you had educated yourself, you would not have made such a stupid
statement. Ryan has a plan to get to a balanced budget, eventually. No
one else has a game plan. His plan to save Medicare will work much
better that obama's $714 billion cut to Medicare.
Dennis is an emotionally-based moron and cannot understand basic
facts, logic, and/or common sense. He does not have the intelligence
required to understand any of this.
Mike Smith
• ______
Bye Bye Glove
2012-08-14 17:14:20 UTC
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Post by •R.Measures
Post by Dennis M
Post by Bye Bye Glove
Post by Dennis M
In article
Post by Tracey12
With Ryan on the ticket, the Tea Party wins hugely because he's a
Tea Party favorite.
The Tea Party may win hugely but 47% of Americans have an unfavorable
view of the Tea Party.
Oh so sorry, the Tea Party is not running.
The hell it ain't, especially after Friday. It's running whether you
like it or not.
Post by Bye Bye Glove
Post by Dennis M
The Romney/Munster ticket is going down in flames.
You Dems are so desperate now, lol.
Rmoney is the desperate one, so paranoid about losing most of his base
that he picked some far-right ideologue who has little to offer
electorally.
*** chortle. Selling Ryan's Medicare cuts to old folks in Florida will
surely require a divine miracle from the LdS "God".
"Lord, what fools these mortals be!" -- Puck.
--From A Midsummer Night's Dream (Act 3, scene 2) by Wm. Shakespeare .
If you had educated yourself, you would not have made such a stupid
statement. Ryan has a plan to get to a balanced budget, eventually. No
one else has a game plan. His plan to save Medicare will work much
better that obama's $714 billion cut to Medicare.
Dennis is an emotionally-based moron and cannot understand basic
facts, logic, and/or common sense. He does not have the intelligence
required to understand any of this.
Mike Smith
• ______
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1047399/Barack-Obamas-half-brother-discovered-Kenya-living-dollar-month.html


Kenyan roots: Barack Obama

The youngest of Barack Obama’s half siblings has told of his shame about
living in a shack and existing on a dollar a month whilst his brother
plans to become the most powerful man in the world.
With the Democratic Convention in Denver just days away, Italian Vanity
Fair magazine tracked George Hussein Onyango Obama to a 6ft by 9ft
wooden shed in Kenya.


Read more:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1047399/Barack-Obamas-half-brother-discovered-Kenya-living-dollar-month.html#ixzz23Lv5QX4T
Bye Bye Glove
2012-08-14 15:48:06 UTC
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Post by Dennis M
Post by Bye Bye Glove
Post by Dennis M
In article
Post by Tracey12
With Ryan on the ticket, the Tea Party wins hugely because he's a
Tea Party favorite.
The Tea Party may win hugely but 47% of Americans have an unfavorable
view of the Tea Party.
Oh so sorry, the Tea Party is not running.
The hell it ain't, especially after Friday. It's running whether you
like it or not.
Post by Bye Bye Glove
Post by Dennis M
The Romney/Munster ticket is going down in flames.
You Dems are so desperate now, lol.
Rmoney is the desperate one, so paranoid about losing most of his base
that he picked some far-right ideologue who has little to offer
electorally.
*** chortle. Selling Ryan's Medicare cuts to old folks in Florida will
surely require a divine miracle from the LdS "God".
"Lord, what fools these mortals be!" -- Puck.
--From A Midsummer Night's Dream (Act 3, scene 2) by Wm. Shakespeare .
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1047399/Barack-Obamas-half-brother-discovered-Kenya-living-dollar-month.html


Kenyan roots: Barack Obama

The youngest of Barack Obama’s half siblings has told of his shame about
living in a shack and existing on a dollar a month whilst his brother
plans to become the most powerful man in the world.
With the Democratic Convention in Denver just days away, Italian Vanity
Fair magazine tracked George Hussein Onyango Obama to a 6ft by 9ft
wooden shed in Kenya.


Read more:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1047399/Barack-Obamas-half-brother-discovered-Kenya-living-dollar-month.html#ixzz23Lv5QX4T
duke
2012-08-14 11:50:56 UTC
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Post by Tracey12
With Ryan on the ticket, the Tea Party wins hugely because he's a
Tea Party favorite.
The Tea Party may win hugely but 47% of Americans have an unfavorable
view of the Tea Party.
That means that 53% of Americans have a favorable view of the Tea Party.
Post by Dennis M
The Romney/Munster ticket is going down in flames.
The dukester, American - American
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A vote for obama is a vote for the end of
democracy in America as we know it. Let the
rolling thunder guide your decision at the
ballot box to put an end to Imperial Obama.
May God bless America.
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Paul Duca
2012-08-14 20:08:36 UTC
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He's got a daughter that will soon be HOT!!!
Now the Romney ticket looks more like Traditional America
The trick is to get Traditional America to accept that their teen-
aged daughters should have sex as often as possible with men like me.
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