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Russia Vows To Get It's Sorry Ass Kicked By US Military for Ukraine's ATACMS missile attack on Crimea
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Putin Shits His Pants
2024-06-24 16:41:13 UTC
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MOSCOW, June 24 (Reuters) - The Kremlin on Monday directly blamed the
United States for an attack on Crimea with U.S.-supplied ATACMS missiles
that killed at least four people and injured 151, and Moscow formally
warned the U.S. ambassador that retaliation would follow.
The war in Ukraine has triggered the biggest confrontation between Russia
and the West since the 1962 Cuban Missile Crisis, and Russian officials
have said that the conflict is entering the most dangerous escalatory phase
to date.
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But directly blaming the United States for a deadly attack on Crimea -
which Russia annexed in 2014 and now considers to be Russian territory
although most of the world considers it to be part of Ukraine - is a step
further.
"You should ask my colleagues in Europe, and above all in Washington, the
press secretaries, why their governments are killing Russian children. Just
ask them this question," Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov told reporters of
the attack.
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At least two children were killed in the attack on Sevastopol on Sunday,
according to Russian officials. People were shown running from a beach near
Sevastopol and some of the injured being carried off on sun loungers.
Russia said that the United States had supplied the weapons, while U.S.
military specialists had aimed the weapons and provided data for them.
Neither Ukraine nor the United States has commented on the attack.
Russia summoned U.S. Ambassador Lynne Tracy to the foreign ministry where
she faced accusations that Washington was "waging a hybrid war against
Russia and has actually become a party to the conflict". The attack, Russia
told Tracy, would "not go unpunished. Retaliatory measures will definitely
follow."
President Vladimir Putin has repeatedly warned of the risk of a much
broader war involving the world's biggest nuclear powers, though he has
said that Russia does not want a conflict with the U.S.-led NATO alliance.
U.S. President Joe Biden has repeatedly ruled out sending U.S. troops to
fight in Ukraine and said shortly after the 2022 Russian invasion that a
direct confrontation between NATO and Russia would mean World War Three.
Putin presents the Ukraine war as part of a much broader struggle with the
U.S., which he says ignored Moscow's interests after the Soviet Union's
1991 break-up and then plotted to cleave Russia apart and seize its natural
resources.
Leaders of the West and Ukraine have cast the war in Ukraine as an
imperial-style land-grab. The West denies that it wants to destroy Russia,
which in turn denies that it intends to invade any NATO member state.
RETALIATION
Since the United States allowed Ukraine to use some U.S. weapons against
Russia, and Britain suggested Kyiv could do the same with British weapons,
the Kremlin has sent several signals that it views the moves as a serious
escalation.
Putin ordered drills to practise the deployment of tactical nuclear
weapons, suggested Russia could deploy conventional missiles in striking
distance of the United States and its allies, and sealed a mutual defence
pact with North Korea.
Washington still prohibits Kyiv from striking Russia with ATACMS, which
have a range of up to 186 miles (300 km), and other long-range U.S.-
supplied weapons.
Putin said on Thursday that Russia might supply weapons to North Korea in
what he suggested would be a mirror response to the Western arming of
Ukraine.
Asked what the Russian response would be to the attack in Crimea, Peskov
recalled Putin's words on June 6 about supplying conventional weapons to
regions near to the U.S. and its allies.
"Of course, the involvement of the United States in the fighting, as a
result of which peaceful Russians are dying, cannot but have
consequences," Peskov said.
"Which ones exactly - time will tell."


https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/kremlin-blames-us-barbaric-atacms-
missile-attack-crimea-2024-06-24/
Governor Swill
2024-06-25 03:09:07 UTC
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On Mon, 24 Jun 2024 16:41:13 -0000 (UTC), Putin Shits His Pants <***@Y.com> wrote:

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Putin said on Thursday that Russia might supply weapons to North Korea in
what he suggested would be a mirror response to the Western arming of
Ukraine.
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https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/kremlin-blames-us-barbaric-atacms-missile-attack-crimea-2024-06-24/
What weapons does Russia have left??

They're buying shells and other weapons from NK and Iran already.

Swill
Skeeter
2024-06-25 13:56:22 UTC
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Putin said on Thursday that Russia might supply weapons to North Korea in
what he suggested would be a mirror response to the Western arming of
Ukraine.
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Post by Putin Shits His Pants
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/kremlin-blames-us-barbaric-atacms-missile-attack-crimea-2024-06-24/
What weapons does Russia have left??
They're buying shells and other weapons from NK and Iran already.
I wonder why?
Governor Swill
2024-06-25 16:53:00 UTC
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Putin said on Thursday that Russia might supply weapons to North Korea in
what he suggested would be a mirror response to the Western arming of
Ukraine.
<snip>
Post by Putin Shits His Pants
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/kremlin-blames-us-barbaric-atacms-missile-attack-crimea-2024-06-24/
What weapons does Russia have left??
They're buying shells and other weapons from NK and Iran already.
I wonder why?
Because they've run out of their own. Satellite photos show they've stripped their
Finnish border installations of artillery, vehicles and men. Corruption is so endemic to
Russian society they can't come close to keeping up with what they were using. Their
firing rates have dropped just as millions of shells have begun to arrive in Ukraine.

Serbia, a Russian ally since before the Archduke Ferdinand's assassination there triggered
WWI, just made a bundle selling nearly a billion in shells to the Czechs who will forward
them to Ukraine. Technically this means they aren't *exactly* supporting Ukraine even if
they know those shells will eventually end up there.

Three more Patriot systems, one from the US and two from NATO are en route along with new
supplies of ammo for them.

Poland has built a barrel refurbishing plant on the Ukraine border to repair artillery
pieces.

Several EU nations are sending more artillery pieces including a large package of lethal
aid including shells from Italy, previously lukewarm on Ukraine support.

South Korea has dropped its policy of not sending lethal aid to Ukraine. Seems North
Korea has signed a mutual defense pact with Russia. Seoul's reaction is to immediately
begin donations of lethal military equipment to Ukraine.

The US has ended it's policy of not allowing US weapons to be used across the border into
Russian territory. There is still a 100 KM limit for ATACMS but that won't last much
longer.

The Russian Navy has now given up on the Black Sea, even from Novorossiysk, and is holed
up in the Sea of Azov hoping Ukraine can't sink their ships there.

The EU just passed another round of sanctions and is working on Pkg 13.

They've also arranged to provide Ukraine with all the profits made by Russian investors
since those assets were seized at the start of the war. The amount comes to over $13B to
be paid to Ukraine in two tranches.

Russia is weakening and has now made the first of, what I expect will be many, territorial
concessions in Manchuria/Russian east Asia.

After the war, Ukraine might be a great place for single guys to vacation. Lots of women
there, unable to find husbands, will be wanting to have babies. Maybe some Russian ex
pats will settle there.

Swill
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Skeeter
2024-06-25 17:42:57 UTC
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Putin said on Thursday that Russia might supply weapons to North Korea in
what he suggested would be a mirror response to the Western arming of
Ukraine.
<snip>
Post by Putin Shits His Pants
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/kremlin-blames-us-barbaric-atacms-missile-attack-crimea-2024-06-24/
What weapons does Russia have left??
They're buying shells and other weapons from NK and Iran already.
I wonder why?
Because they've run out of their own. Satellite photos show they've stripped their
Finnish border installations of artillery, vehicles and men. Corruption is so endemic to
Russian society they can't come close to keeping up with what they were using. Their
firing rates have dropped just as millions of shells have begun to arrive in Ukraine.
Serbia, a Russian ally since before the Archduke Ferdinand's assassination there triggered
WWI, just made a bundle selling nearly a billion in shells to the Czechs who will forward
them to Ukraine. Technically this means they aren't *exactly* supporting Ukraine even if
they know those shells will eventually end up there.
Three more Patriot systems, one from the US and two from NATO are en route along with new
supplies of ammo for them.
Poland has built a barrel refurbishing plant on the Ukraine border to repair artillery
pieces.
Several EU nations are sending more artillery pieces including a large package of lethal
aid including shells from Italy, previously lukewarm on Ukraine support.
South Korea has dropped its policy of not sending lethal aid to Ukraine. Seems North
Korea has signed a mutual defense pact with Russia. Seoul's reaction is to immediately
begin donations of lethal military equipment to Ukraine.
The US has ended it's policy of not allowing US weapons to be used across the border into
Russian territory. There is still a 100 KM limit for ATACMS but that won't last much
longer.
The Russian Navy has now given up on the Black Sea, even from Novorossiysk, and is holed
up in the Sea of Azov hoping Ukraine can't sink their ships there.
The EU just passed another round of sanctions and is working on Pkg 13.
They've also arranged to provide Ukraine with all the profits made by Russian investors
since those assets were seized at the start of the war. The amount comes to over $13B to
be paid to Ukraine in two tranches.
Russia is weakening and has now made the first of, what I expect will be many, territorial
concessions in Manchuria/Russian east Asia.
After the war, Ukraine might be a great place for single guys to vacation. Lots of women
there, unable to find husbands, will be wanting to have babies. Maybe some Russian ex
pats will settle there.
Swill
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copy/paste looked over. We all know why Iran and China and Russia are
working together.
Governor Swill
2024-06-26 03:13:13 UTC
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Post by Governor Swill
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Putin said on Thursday that Russia might supply weapons to North Korea in
what he suggested would be a mirror response to the Western arming of
Ukraine.
<snip>
Post by Putin Shits His Pants
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/kremlin-blames-us-barbaric-atacms-missile-attack-crimea-2024-06-24/
What weapons does Russia have left??
They're buying shells and other weapons from NK and Iran already.
I wonder why?
Because they've run out of their own. Satellite photos show they've stripped their
Finnish border installations of artillery, vehicles and men. Corruption is so endemic to
Russian society they can't come close to keeping up with what they were using. Their
firing rates have dropped just as millions of shells have begun to arrive in Ukraine.
Serbia, a Russian ally since before the Archduke Ferdinand's assassination there triggered
WWI, just made a bundle selling nearly a billion in shells to the Czechs who will forward
them to Ukraine. Technically this means they aren't *exactly* supporting Ukraine even if
they know those shells will eventually end up there.
Three more Patriot systems, one from the US and two from NATO are en route along with new
supplies of ammo for them.
Poland has built a barrel refurbishing plant on the Ukraine border to repair artillery
pieces.
Several EU nations are sending more artillery pieces including a large package of lethal
aid including shells from Italy, previously lukewarm on Ukraine support.
South Korea has dropped its policy of not sending lethal aid to Ukraine. Seems North
Korea has signed a mutual defense pact with Russia. Seoul's reaction is to immediately
begin donations of lethal military equipment to Ukraine.
The US has ended it's policy of not allowing US weapons to be used across the border into
Russian territory. There is still a 100 KM limit for ATACMS but that won't last much
longer.
The Russian Navy has now given up on the Black Sea, even from Novorossiysk, and is holed
up in the Sea of Azov hoping Ukraine can't sink their ships there.
The EU just passed another round of sanctions and is working on Pkg 13.
They've also arranged to provide Ukraine with all the profits made by Russian investors
since those assets were seized at the start of the war. The amount comes to over $13B to
be paid to Ukraine in two tranches.
Russia is weakening and has now made the first of, what I expect will be many, territorial
concessions in Manchuria/Russian east Asia.
After the war, Ukraine might be a great place for single guys to vacation. Lots of women
there, unable to find husbands, will be wanting to have babies. Maybe some Russian ex
pats will settle there.
Swill
NP: Paula Abdul - Straight Up
copy/paste looked over. We all know why Iran and China and Russia are
working together.
What copy/paste?

Swill
Fuck the Ukraine
2024-06-26 03:36:32 UTC
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Putin said on Thursday that Russia might supply weapons to North Korea in
what he suggested would be a mirror response to the Western arming of
Ukraine.
<snip>
Post by Putin Shits His Pants
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/kremlin-blames-us-barbaric-atacms-missile-attack-crimea-2024-06-24/
What weapons does Russia have left??
They're buying shells and other weapons from NK and Iran already.
I wonder why?
Because they've run out of their own. Satellite photos show they've stripped their
Finnish border installations of artillery, vehicles and men. Corruption is so endemic to
Russian society they can't come close to keeping up with what they were using. Their
firing rates have dropped just as millions of shells have begun to arrive in Ukraine.
Serbia, a Russian ally since before the Archduke Ferdinand's assassination there triggered
WWI, just made a bundle selling nearly a billion in shells to the Czechs who will forward
them to Ukraine. Technically this means they aren't *exactly* supporting Ukraine even if
they know those shells will eventually end up there.
Three more Patriot systems, one from the US and two from NATO are en route along with new
supplies of ammo for them.
Poland has built a barrel refurbishing plant on the Ukraine border to repair artillery
pieces.
Several EU nations are sending more artillery pieces including a large package of lethal
aid including shells from Italy, previously lukewarm on Ukraine support.
South Korea has dropped its policy of not sending lethal aid to Ukraine. Seems North
Korea has signed a mutual defense pact with Russia. Seoul's reaction is to immediately
begin donations of lethal military equipment to Ukraine.
The US has ended it's policy of not allowing US weapons to be used across the border into
Russian territory. There is still a 100 KM limit for ATACMS but that won't last much
longer.
The Russian Navy has now given up on the Black Sea, even from Novorossiysk, and is holed
up in the Sea of Azov hoping Ukraine can't sink their ships there.
The EU just passed another round of sanctions and is working on Pkg 13.
They've also arranged to provide Ukraine with all the profits made by Russian investors
since those assets were seized at the start of the war. The amount comes to over $13B to
be paid to Ukraine in two tranches.
Russia is weakening and has now made the first of, what I expect will be many, territorial
concessions in Manchuria/Russian east Asia.
After the war, Ukraine might be a great place for single guys to vacation. Lots of women
there, unable to find husbands, will be wanting to have babies. Maybe some Russian ex
pats will settle there.
Swill
NP: Paula Abdul - Straight Up
copy/paste looked over. We all know why Iran and China and Russia are
working together.
What copy/paste?
The one your boyfriend at the State Department gave you.

Russia can damn well produce shells, and can produce more of them than
the United States.
Siri Cruise
2024-06-26 07:44:51 UTC
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Russia can damn well produce shells, and can produce more of them than
the United States.
Fine with me. We aren't at war with Russia.

US industrial capacity exceeds Russia. We're just using it to make
toys and new pots and skillets instead of ways to kill people.
While Putin is rebuilding the Soviet economy, I'm glad he has so
far avoided famines. I think Ukrainians will agree death by
starvation is not fun.
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Governor Swill
2024-06-26 17:29:12 UTC
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Putin said on Thursday that Russia might supply weapons to North Korea in
what he suggested would be a mirror response to the Western arming of
Ukraine.
<snip>
Post by Putin Shits His Pants
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/kremlin-blames-us-barbaric-atacms-missile-attack-crimea-2024-06-24/
What weapons does Russia have left??
They're buying shells and other weapons from NK and Iran already.
I wonder why?
Because they've run out of their own. Satellite photos show they've stripped their
Finnish border installations of artillery, vehicles and men. Corruption is so endemic to
Russian society they can't come close to keeping up with what they were using. Their
firing rates have dropped just as millions of shells have begun to arrive in Ukraine.
Serbia, a Russian ally since before the Archduke Ferdinand's assassination there triggered
WWI, just made a bundle selling nearly a billion in shells to the Czechs who will forward
them to Ukraine. Technically this means they aren't *exactly* supporting Ukraine even if
they know those shells will eventually end up there.
Three more Patriot systems, one from the US and two from NATO are en route along with new
supplies of ammo for them.
Poland has built a barrel refurbishing plant on the Ukraine border to repair artillery
pieces.
Several EU nations are sending more artillery pieces including a large package of lethal
aid including shells from Italy, previously lukewarm on Ukraine support.
South Korea has dropped its policy of not sending lethal aid to Ukraine. Seems North
Korea has signed a mutual defense pact with Russia. Seoul's reaction is to immediately
begin donations of lethal military equipment to Ukraine.
The US has ended it's policy of not allowing US weapons to be used across the border into
Russian territory. There is still a 100 KM limit for ATACMS but that won't last much
longer.
The Russian Navy has now given up on the Black Sea, even from Novorossiysk, and is holed
up in the Sea of Azov hoping Ukraine can't sink their ships there.
The EU just passed another round of sanctions and is working on Pkg 13.
They've also arranged to provide Ukraine with all the profits made by Russian investors
since those assets were seized at the start of the war. The amount comes to over $13B to
be paid to Ukraine in two tranches.
Russia is weakening and has now made the first of, what I expect will be many, territorial
concessions in Manchuria/Russian east Asia.
After the war, Ukraine might be a great place for single guys to vacation. Lots of women
there, unable to find husbands, will be wanting to have babies. Maybe some Russian ex
pats will settle there.
Swill
NP: Paula Abdul - Straight Up
copy/paste looked over. We all know why Iran and China and Russia are
working together.
What copy/paste?
The one your boyfriend at the State Department gave you.
Russia can damn well produce shells, and can produce more of them than
the United States.
I wrote the above based on OSINT and public news articles.

I never claimed Russia couldn't produce shells or that they couldn't produce more than we
can. It's common knowledge they can produce more than we can because ours is not an
artillery based military but one based on smart weapons and Naval and air power, all three
of which Russia sucks at.

The current wave of shells is being bought by the EU led by the Czech Republic from
countries all over the world. Serbia alone sold $800M worth to the Czechs for donation to
Ukraine. The EU and other nations raised money for this effort from both public and
private donations. The result is hundreds of thousands of shells gathered from around the
planet being sent to Ukraine.

Btw, Russia can't use their shells without artillery pieces. Shame UA keeps blowing them
up.

Here's a copy/paste if you want one.

"The Security Service of Ukraine (SSU) has equipped its Sea Baby drones with the
capability to remotely mine maritime routes. This tactic has already destroyed four
Russian ships, according to The Wall Street Journal.
During one of its journeys, it was detected by three Raptor class patrol boats, and it
retaliated with a grenade launcher.
On October 11, the large patrol ship Pavel Derzhavin was blown up as it attempted to enter
Sevastopol Bay. It "limped" to the port for inspection. On October 13, as it was sent to
another port, it hit another mine at the bay's exit. A large tugboat sent to rescue the
ship also hit a mine.
"A few days later, a modern mine-countermeasure ship, one of two in Russia's arsenal,
exploded," the report states."

I've mislaid the link from which this came but here are some other links on the subject.

<https://www.businessinsider.com/ukraine-sea-mines-naval-drones-struck-four-russia-warships-report-2024-6>
<https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/sea-baby-drone-equipped-with-remote-mining-4-russian-ships-hit/ar-BB1oNafL>
<https://united24media.com/latest-news/ukrainian-drones-employ-novel-tactic-disable-russian-ships-in-black-sea-878>
<https://euromaidanpress.com/2024/06/24/wsj-ukraines-sea-baby-drones-strike-4-russian-ships-with-underwater-mine-strategy/>

Russia's Black Seafloor Fleet has now been driven completely out of the Black Sea and is
hiding from the-nation-without-a-navy in the Sea of Azov.

PS: Russia is fucked.

Swill
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Left Wing
2024-06-26 03:10:28 UTC
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