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186282@ud0s4.net
2025-01-21 01:00:08 UTC
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SOME were 'commutations'.

From what's being said, there may be TWO orders
for about 1500 each. Can't tell yet.

A few cases are - "we're gonna have to look into"
sorts of cases ... these are probably the people
who actually fought with the Capitol Police officers.

The poor Buffalo-Hat Guy ought to get cash
compensation.

Trump is still calling them "the J6 hostages"
and made serious comments about the political
nature of their convictions.

Also signed - but questionable - is the order to
designate the S.American crime cartels as "terrorist
organizations". IMHO they don't quite meet the bar
for 'terrorists'. However, short term, before the
courts tear into it ...

Also questionable - at least partial negation
of 'birthright citizenship'. I think the
constitution trumps Trump in this case. All
agree the law has been horribly mis-used of
late, but. It's sometimes OK to add on some
conditions - like that Joe Schmoe can't own
nuclear weapons despite the 2nd - but it's
generally poor constitutional form to do
that sort of thing. The Founders thought it
all through pretty damned well.

Ah ... an Anti-DEI order ! "Merit" must
again take precedence.
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Mitchell Holman
2025-01-21 02:44:21 UTC
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SOME were 'commutations'.
From what's being said, there may be TWO orders
for about 1500 each. Can't tell yet.
A few cases are - "we're gonna have to look into"
sorts of cases ... these are probably the people
who actually fought with the Capitol Police officers.
The poor Buffalo-Hat Guy ought to get cash
compensation.
Trump prosecutes Jan 6 rioters,
then Trump pardons Jan 6 rioters.

Flip-flopping is the only exercise
he gets.





Thirteen Charged in Federal Court
Following Riot at the United States
Capitol
January 8, 2021 <------

In addition, approximately 40 individuals
have been arrested and charged in Superior
Court with offenses including, but not
limited to, unlawful entry, curfew
violations, and firearms-related crimes.
http://tinyurl.com/4njaebde
Skeeter
2025-01-21 08:35:57 UTC
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SOME were 'commutations'.
From what's being said, there may be TWO orders
for about 1500 each. Can't tell yet.
A few cases are - "we're gonna have to look into"
sorts of cases ... these are probably the people
who actually fought with the Capitol Police officers.
The poor Buffalo-Hat Guy ought to get cash
compensation.
Trump prosecutes Jan 6 rioters,
then Trump pardons Jan 6 rioters.
Flip-flopping is the only exercise
he gets.
Cry a river.
Post by Mitchell Holman
Thirteen Charged in Federal Court
Following Riot at the United States
Capitol
January 8, 2021 <------
In addition, approximately 40 individuals
have been arrested and charged in Superior
Court with offenses including, but not
limited to, unlawful entry, curfew
violations, and firearms-related crimes.
http://tinyurl.com/4njaebde
pothead
2025-01-21 13:32:00 UTC
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SOME were 'commutations'.
From what's being said, there may be TWO orders
for about 1500 each. Can't tell yet.
A few cases are - "we're gonna have to look into"
sorts of cases ... these are probably the people
who actually fought with the Capitol Police officers.
The poor Buffalo-Hat Guy ought to get cash
compensation.
Trump prosecutes Jan 6 rioters,
then Trump pardons Jan 6 rioters.
Flip-flopping is the only exercise
he gets.
Cry a river.
Their collective tears are growing to the point where it
will rival the Amazon River.

Toss Cheny, Pelosi, Schumer and those 51 treasonous liars into the tears
and it will be complete with piranhas as well.
Maybe Joe Biden can go fishing?
He certainly has a lot of free time these days. Not unlike his
presidency.

The fun is just beginning. I hope the libbys have stocked up on Kleenex tissues.
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"Give a man a fish and you turn him into a Democrat for life"
"Teach a man to fish and he might become a self-sufficient conservative Republican"
"Don't underestimate Joe's ability to fuck things up,"
--- Barack H. Obama
The Biden Crime Family Timeline here:
https://oversight.house.gov/the-bidens-influence-peddling-timeline/
Mitchell Holman
2025-01-21 14:03:40 UTC
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SOME were 'commutations'.
From what's being said, there may be TWO orders
for about 1500 each. Can't tell yet.
A few cases are - "we're gonna have to look into"
sorts of cases ... these are probably the people
who actually fought with the Capitol Police officers.
The poor Buffalo-Hat Guy ought to get cash
compensation.
Trump prosecutes Jan 6 rioters,
then Trump pardons Jan 6 rioters.
Flip-flopping is the only exercise
he gets.
Cry a river.
Their collective tears are growing to the point where it
will rival the Amazon River.
Toss Cheny, Pelosi, Schumer and those 51 treasonous liars into the
tears and it will be complete with piranhas as well.
Maybe Joe Biden can go fishing?
He certainly has a lot of free time these days. Not unlike his
presidency.
The fun is just beginning. I hope the libbys have stocked up on Kleenex tissues.
Trumpists control the whole government now.

Every border crossing is their failure.
Every gas price rise is their failure.
Every inflation hike is their failure.
Every dollar of deficit spending is their failure.
Every jump in unemployment is their failure.
Skeeter
2025-01-21 16:26:43 UTC
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SOME were 'commutations'.
From what's being said, there may be TWO orders
for about 1500 each. Can't tell yet.
A few cases are - "we're gonna have to look into"
sorts of cases ... these are probably the people
who actually fought with the Capitol Police officers.
The poor Buffalo-Hat Guy ought to get cash
compensation.
Trump prosecutes Jan 6 rioters,
then Trump pardons Jan 6 rioters.
Flip-flopping is the only exercise
he gets.
Cry a river.
Their collective tears are growing to the point where it
will rival the Amazon River.
Toss Cheny, Pelosi, Schumer and those 51 treasonous liars into the
tears and it will be complete with piranhas as well.
Maybe Joe Biden can go fishing?
He certainly has a lot of free time these days. Not unlike his
presidency.
The fun is just beginning. I hope the libbys have stocked up on Kleenex tissues.
Trumpists control the whole government now.
Every border crossing is their failure.
Every gas price rise is their failure.
Every inflation hike is their failure.
Every dollar of deficit spending is their failure.
Every jump in unemployment is their failure.
You do try. Like a pissed of 5th grader.
Mitchell Holman
2025-01-21 18:48:12 UTC
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SOME were 'commutations'.
From what's being said, there may be TWO orders
for about 1500 each. Can't tell yet.
A few cases are - "we're gonna have to look into"
sorts of cases ... these are probably the people
who actually fought with the Capitol Police officers.
The poor Buffalo-Hat Guy ought to get cash
compensation.
Trump prosecutes Jan 6 rioters,
then Trump pardons Jan 6 rioters.
Flip-flopping is the only exercise
he gets.
Cry a river.
Their collective tears are growing to the point where it
will rival the Amazon River.
Toss Cheny, Pelosi, Schumer and those 51 treasonous liars into the
tears and it will be complete with piranhas as well.
Maybe Joe Biden can go fishing?
He certainly has a lot of free time these days. Not unlike his
presidency.
The fun is just beginning. I hope the libbys have stocked up on Kleenex tissues.
Trumpists control the whole government now.
Every border crossing is their failure.
Every gas price rise is their failure.
Every inflation hike is their failure.
Every dollar of deficit spending is their failure.
Every jump in unemployment is their failure.
You do try. Like a pissed of 5th grader.
Conservatives know how get power.

They just don't know what to do with it.
Skeeter
2025-01-21 20:44:43 UTC
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SOME were 'commutations'.
From what's being said, there may be TWO orders
for about 1500 each. Can't tell yet.
A few cases are - "we're gonna have to look into"
sorts of cases ... these are probably the people
who actually fought with the Capitol Police officers.
The poor Buffalo-Hat Guy ought to get cash
compensation.
Trump prosecutes Jan 6 rioters,
then Trump pardons Jan 6 rioters.
Flip-flopping is the only exercise
he gets.
Cry a river.
Their collective tears are growing to the point where it
will rival the Amazon River.
Toss Cheny, Pelosi, Schumer and those 51 treasonous liars into the
tears and it will be complete with piranhas as well.
Maybe Joe Biden can go fishing?
He certainly has a lot of free time these days. Not unlike his
presidency.
The fun is just beginning. I hope the libbys have stocked up on Kleenex tissues.
Trumpists control the whole government now.
Every border crossing is their failure.
Every gas price rise is their failure.
Every inflation hike is their failure.
Every dollar of deficit spending is their failure.
Every jump in unemployment is their failure.
You do try. Like a pissed of 5th grader.
Conservatives know how get power.
They just don't know what to do with it.
Already using it and it's working.
pothead
2025-01-21 22:25:26 UTC
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SOME were 'commutations'.
From what's being said, there may be TWO orders
for about 1500 each. Can't tell yet.
A few cases are - "we're gonna have to look into"
sorts of cases ... these are probably the people
who actually fought with the Capitol Police officers.
The poor Buffalo-Hat Guy ought to get cash
compensation.
Trump prosecutes Jan 6 rioters,
then Trump pardons Jan 6 rioters.
Flip-flopping is the only exercise
he gets.
Cry a river.
Their collective tears are growing to the point where it
will rival the Amazon River.
Toss Cheny, Pelosi, Schumer and those 51 treasonous liars into the
tears and it will be complete with piranhas as well.
Maybe Joe Biden can go fishing?
He certainly has a lot of free time these days. Not unlike his
presidency.
The fun is just beginning. I hope the libbys have stocked up on
Kleenex tissues.
Trumpists control the whole government now.
Every border crossing is their failure.
Every gas price rise is their failure.
Every inflation hike is their failure.
Every dollar of deficit spending is their failure.
Every jump in unemployment is their failure.
You do try. Like a pissed of 5th grader.
Conservatives know how get power.
They just don't know what to do with it.
Already using it and it's working.
Trump has done more to improve the country in a single day than Biden did in 4 years.
In fact everything Biden did caused further destruction of the country.
We would have been better off if he sat back on the beach and just left things alone.
--
pothead

"Give a man a fish and you turn him into a Democrat for life"
"Teach a man to fish and he might become a self-sufficient conservative Republican"
"Don't underestimate Joe's ability to fuck things up,"
--- Barack H. Obama
The Biden Crime Family Timeline here:
https://oversight.house.gov/the-bidens-influence-peddling-timeline/
Siri Cruise
2025-01-21 23:07:13 UTC
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Trump has done more to improve the country in a single day than Biden did in 4 years.
In fact everything Biden did caused further destruction of the country.
We would have been better off if he sat back on the beach and just left things alone.
When is the ICE raid on Bakersfield?
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pothead
2025-01-22 16:21:32 UTC
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Trump has done more to improve the country in a single day than Biden did in 4 years.
In fact everything Biden did caused further destruction of the country.
We would have been better off if he sat back on the beach and just left things alone.
When is the ICE raid on Bakersfield?
Give it time.
The country was built on immigration, literally.
LEGAL IMMIGRATION for the most part. Sure some slip in
overstay visas and so forth but overall it was LEGAL IMMIGRATION
that built and keeps the country running.
It's worked for hundreds of years.
--
pothead

"Give a man a fish and you turn him into a Democrat for life"
"Teach a man to fish and he might become a self-sufficient conservative Republican"
"Don't underestimate Joe's ability to fuck things up,"
--- Barack H. Obama
The Biden Crime Family Timeline here:
https://oversight.house.gov/the-bidens-influence-peddling-timeline/
Siri Cruise
2025-01-22 17:24:19 UTC
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The country was built on immigration, literally.
LEGAL IMMIGRATION for the most part. Sure some slip in
overstay visas and so forth but overall it was LEGAL IMMIGRATION
that built and keeps the country running.
It's worked for hundreds of years.
Where in the US Code are the current immigration restrictions
enacted hundreds of years ago? 1924 is hundreds of years ago?
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Chris Ahlstrom
2025-01-22 18:03:28 UTC
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The country was built on immigration, literally.
LEGAL IMMIGRATION for the most part. Sure some slip in
overstay visas and so forth but overall it was LEGAL IMMIGRATION
that built and keeps the country running.
It's worked for hundreds of years.
Where in the US Code are the current immigration restrictions
enacted hundreds of years ago? 1924 is hundreds of years ago?
https://www.nwirp.org/illegal-vs-undocumented-a-nwirp-board-members-perspective/

The U.S. has played a proactive role in recruiting cheap labor from outside
its borders – first through the forced migration of African immigrants in
the slave trade, and then continuing with targeted recruitment from the
mid-1800s until recently – from China, Japan, and Mexico. In many cases,
the U.S. later excluded and/or deported its initial recruits.

A poignant example is the Bracero Program followed by Operation Wetback.
When America entered World War II in 1942, Congress enacted the Bracero
Program which imported close to 5 million Mexicans to work in agricultural
and railroad industries. However, by 1954, America’s recession led to new
efforts to remove Mexicans in what was officially named Operation Wetback
where over one million Mexicans were deported or repatriated.

Deport pothead! :-D
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Mitchell Holman
2025-01-22 19:37:43 UTC
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Trump has done more to improve the country in a single day than
Biden did in 4 years. In fact everything Biden did caused further
destruction of the country. We would have been better off if he
sat back on the beach and just left things alone.
When is the ICE raid on Bakersfield?
Give it time.
The country was built on immigration, literally.
LEGAL IMMIGRATION for the most part.
Hardly. Treaty after broken
treaty with native Americans who
were there first. Daniel Boone
"opening up the West"? - invading
tribal lands. "Trail of Tears"?
Natives evicted from their own
lands and driven west. The Creek
wars? Natives evicted from their
own lands. Settlement in the Dakotas?
Natives evicted from their own land.
The Oregon Trail - all thru tribal
lands. Name one treaty with the
natives in 18th and 19th centuriues
that was honored by white settlers.

The country was settled by
ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS. Fact.
Mitchell Holman
2025-01-23 02:58:55 UTC
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Trump has done more to improve the country in a single day than
Biden did in 4 years. In fact everything Biden did caused
further destruction of the country. We would have been better
off if he sat back on the beach and just left things alone.
When is the ICE raid on Bakersfield?
Give it time.
The country was built on immigration, literally.
LEGAL IMMIGRATION for the most part.
Hardly. Treaty after broken
treaty with native Americans who
that was honored by white settlers.
The country was settled by
ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS. Fact.
Daniel Boone?
The Native Americans?
"This country was built on legal immigration"
- your claim.


There was nothing legal about the ILLEGAL
IMMIGRATION of white settlers into native lands.

Stay away from claims involving history,
it is not your strong suit.
pothead
2025-01-23 13:05:24 UTC
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Trump has done more to improve the country in a single day than
Biden did in 4 years. In fact everything Biden did caused
further destruction of the country. We would have been better
off if he sat back on the beach and just left things alone.
When is the ICE raid on Bakersfield?
Give it time.
The country was built on immigration, literally.
LEGAL IMMIGRATION for the most part.
Hardly. Treaty after broken
treaty with native Americans who
that was honored by white settlers.
The country was settled by
ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS. Fact.
Daniel Boone?
The Native Americans?
"This country was built on legal immigration"
- your claim.
There was nothing legal about the ILLEGAL
IMMIGRATION of white settlers into native lands.
Stay away from claims involving history,
it is not your strong suit.
Stop playing word games.
You know exactly what I meant.
Railroads, bridges, buildings, water supplies, infrastructure.
NYC is a prime example.
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pothead

"Give a man a fish and you turn him into a Democrat for life"
"Teach a man to fish and he might become a self-sufficient conservative Republican"
"Don't underestimate Joe's ability to fuck things up,"
--- Barack H. Obama
The Biden Crime Family Timeline here:
https://oversight.house.gov/the-bidens-influence-peddling-timeline/
186282@ud0s4.net
2025-01-23 22:15:16 UTC
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Trump has done more to improve the country in a single day than
Biden did in 4 years. In fact everything Biden did caused
further destruction of the country. We would have been better
off if he sat back on the beach and just left things alone.
When is the ICE raid on Bakersfield?
Give it time.
The country was built on immigration, literally.
LEGAL IMMIGRATION for the most part.
Hardly. Treaty after broken
treaty with native Americans who
that was honored by white settlers.
The country was settled by
ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS. Fact.
Daniel Boone?
The Native Americans?
"This country was built on legal immigration"
- your claim.
There was nothing legal about the ILLEGAL
IMMIGRATION of white settlers into native lands.
Stay away from claims involving history,
it is not your strong suit.
Stop playing word games.
You know exactly what I meant.
Railroads, bridges, buildings, water supplies, infrastructure.
NYC is a prime example.
First off, the Euros were not "illegal" immigrants
because there were no laws, or large-scale bodies
capable of making them, way back then.

If all the eastern tribes had formed a confederation
and explicitly writ immigration laws, sorta THEN.

But they didn't. It was every-little-group for itself.

Now FURTHER SOUTH - the Aztec and Inca esp - they MAY
have had such explicit laws. They were well-organized.
As such, perhaps everyone there with any Spanish blood
is a de-facto illegal alien under said pre-existing
laws ?

Of course they were all physically conquered, their
leaders and systems put to the sword. They did it
themselves to rivals so they can only bitch just
SO much because the Spanish did it better.

In any case, we cannot apply today's wishy-washy
law and standards to the distant past. Eurasia
was little BUT invasions and genocides and more
invasions over and over and over for as far back
as history's been writ. "If I kick yer ass then
all your stuff is MINE !" was The Law.

The Sumerians invented good writing and DID have
detailed laws (I actually posted some of those
a couple months ago) - but the Elamites came
and kicked their ass and all that was theirs
then belonged to the Elamites. Then the Akkadians
kicked Elamite ass and ... and .......

And as for "pardons" - after what JOE did the
lefties have NO high horse to sit on there !
Mitchell Holman
2025-01-24 03:31:19 UTC
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Trump has done more to improve the country in a single day than
Biden did in 4 years. In fact everything Biden did caused
further destruction of the country. We would have been better
off if he sat back on the beach and just left things alone.
When is the ICE raid on Bakersfield?
Give it time.
The country was built on immigration, literally.
LEGAL IMMIGRATION for the most part.
Hardly. Treaty after broken
treaty with native Americans who
that was honored by white settlers.
The country was settled by
ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS. Fact.
Daniel Boone?
The Native Americans?
"This country was built on legal immigration"
- your claim.
There was nothing legal about the ILLEGAL
IMMIGRATION of white settlers into native lands.
Stay away from claims involving history,
it is not your strong suit.
Stop playing word games.
You know exactly what I meant.
Railroads, bridges, buildings, water supplies, infrastructure.
NYC is a prime example.
First off, the Euros were not "illegal" immigrants
because there were no laws, or large-scale bodies
capable of making them, way back then.
If all the eastern tribes had formed a confederation
and explicitly writ immigration laws, sorta THEN.
But they didn't. It was every-little-group for itself.
The British and then American
governments signed treaty after
treaty with the Indian nations -
thus recognizing them AS nations -
guarnteeing them sovereignty over
their lans. Who were the "illegal
immigrants" when white settlers
invaded and occupied those lands?

Skeeter
2025-01-23 13:20:28 UTC
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Trump has done more to improve the country in a single day than
Biden did in 4 years. In fact everything Biden did caused
further destruction of the country. We would have been better
off if he sat back on the beach and just left things alone.
When is the ICE raid on Bakersfield?
Give it time.
The country was built on immigration, literally.
LEGAL IMMIGRATION for the most part.
Hardly. Treaty after broken
treaty with native Americans who
that was honored by white settlers.
The country was settled by
ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS. Fact.
Daniel Boone?
The Native Americans?
"This country was built on legal immigration"
- your claim.
There was nothing legal about the ILLEGAL
IMMIGRATION of white settlers into native lands.
Stay away from claims involving history,
it is not your strong suit.
Was there a border law in effect then?
Mitchell Holman
2025-01-22 02:32:45 UTC
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Trump has done more to improve the country in a single day than Biden
did in 4 years. In fact everything Biden did caused further
destruction of the country. We would have been better off if he sat
back on the beach and just left things alone.
When is the ICE raid on Bakersfield?
When will gas prices be cut in half,
as Trump promised?
Skeeter
2025-01-23 13:18:48 UTC
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Trump has done more to improve the country in a single day than Biden
did in 4 years. In fact everything Biden did caused further
destruction of the country. We would have been better off if he sat
back on the beach and just left things alone. you. No ammo at all.
When is the ICE raid on Bakersfield?
When will gas prices be cut in half,
as Trump promised?
Look at you, no ammo at all.
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