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Don't Expect Arnold to Make a Difference
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conrad
2003-10-13 13:18:49 UTC
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The fact that California voters so decisively got rid of red Gray
proves there is something that will rouse them from their socialist
torpor. In this case, we are told, it was the stratospheric increase
in the automobile tax Davis imposed. Not only did they kick him out,
but also 62% of them voted Republican.

One wonders how many would have voted for Tom McClintock had the
Bohemian Grove, Bush and (maybe) Ted Kennedy not inserted the Arnold.
Senator Tom won about a million votes. There is no way to know how
many voted for Arnold in fear of Bustamante. Tom clearly stated his
beliefs. They added up to classic Americanism.

So now we have Governor Arnold, who drew an enormous chunk of the
women's vote and even of the Latino vote. We await the Democrats'
counterattack. Will they launch their own recall? Will they indict the
Arnold on charges of female flirtation? If there is one thing we can
be sure of, it is that the struggle doesn't end here.

Davis is dead. His already putrefying corpse will now be assigned some
lucrative job in the labyrinth. The Los Angeles Times, which long ago
was a real newspaper, now takes its place beside its counterpart in
New York, so now you can easily wrap fish on either coast. Its exposé
of Arnold's groping on the Thursday before the Tuesday - too late to
respond - may actually have helped him.

The trouble is that I have been able to find only two important
differences between Arnold and Red. Arnold gropes women because he
likes them. Red just smacks them around. His secretary apparently was
afraid to be in the same room with him after Davis almost shook her
teeth out. The Times didn't front-page that story.

The other difference is that Davis has not - as far as we know - posed
nude for a sodomite magazine. Those photographs are available. I
assume that from now on, every "Gay Pride" parade will routinely
include a contingent carrying large photographs of the Arnold in full-
frontal knockwurst. The caption will read: "Governor Arnold. One of
Us."

Indeed, the Arnold seems to believe everything Davis believes;
everything Maria's Uncle Teddy believes. He has said he is "ashamed"
of the Republican Party. I can't imagine any reason he became a
Republican other than the speculation that the fat slob told him to.
Did Teddy have some plan, or was he accidentally sober? Arnold gave no
thanks to Republicans at the victory celebration, but his Democrat in-
laws were with him onstage.

The "conservative" pundits are saying the recall proves "democracy"
lives. On the contrary, elections are on the way out. As I have
suggested before in these commentaries, a point is approaching at
which enough voters to make a difference in enough venues may come to
realize that it doesn't make a difference how they vote. When the
result is sufficiently important, the world government conspirators
will cancel it to get what they want. The millions of Americans who
either voted for Senator Tom or wanted to will eventually realize they
must use other means.

Remember that our President is Communist. Our government is Communist.
Our media are Communist. Our schools are Communist.

How do we know that? We know it by their fruit. We know it by their
style. American hero Joe McCarthy and others helped expose some Soviet
spy rings half a century ago. Investigators reported there were others
that were never exposed. What do members of such spy rings do? They
infiltrate. They metastasize. They pervert and subvert. They have been
doing that for fifty years and more.

We know that hidden Communists are destroying our civilization in the
same way a doctor names a systemic internal disease when he sees
certain symptoms on the surface. Where there are effects, there have
to be causes, and the style of the attack on our civilization is
crucial. The Communist world government conspirators are trying to
keep the lid on with phony, managed elections like the one they have
just conducted in California, while they brainwash an entire nation.
This is what the Communists did in Red China.

By now, the procedure is well known. A man who is not on the approved
list says something true about a forbidden subject. He is routinely
subjected to the torments of Hell, to a torrent of abuse so
widespread, so intense, that he quails. He apologizes. Often, he quits
or his fired from his job. Recently, for instance, the conspiracy Rush
Limbaugh says isn't there bit him in the behind. Something similar
happened to a broadcaster in far off New Zealand.

What are we being trained to do? We are being trained to shut up. We
are being trained to understand that, despite Patrick Henry and the
Bill of Rights, when you say something truly controversial, bad things
will happen to you. You will be disgraced. You will lose your job. You
may lose your home and family. All these things could happen if you
refuse to be still while the Communists lower our country so it can be
submerged in Der New Vorld Ordnung. Can you hear the Horst Wessel now?

While we wait to see what Der Arnold will do about illegal
immigration, much if not most of the legal immigration comes to us
from Africa. Smirking drunk George Bush the Smaller is planting
Africans around our country. This has nothing to do with race. I'm not
talking about distinguished champions of our civilization like Tom
Sowell.

I'm talking about those people you have heard about who can't use a
door knob; who don't know and don't care about our civilization and
country; who don't share our beliefs and religion; people who will
bring others like themselves here as soon as they can. Compared to
these folks, our Mexican visitors, who are Christians, seem like
members of the family.

It is good for everyone when people feel good about themselves. When
people feel good about themselves there is less trouble between them.
It is good for blacks - and for everyone else - when they feel good
about themselves. If there is no chip on the shoulder, there will be
no fist in the hand. And it is just as good for whites - who have the
same rights - to feel good about themselves.

Reread that last sentence. The Communists scheming to destroy us - the
conspirators buffoons like Bill O'Spin say are not there - have made
that innocuous sentence controversial. The Communists have permeated
our culture with the idea that the "white man" is no good, is
contemptible, is incompetent, is cruel, is worthless, is the cause of
your dandruff, your failure, your unhappiness, and on and on and on.
And the white man is being trained to believe it. He bows his neck and
keeps his trap shut.

Here too race is irrelevant. The conspirators are not doing this
because they have some distaste for whites. The conspirators are white
themselves. They are doing it, again, to reduce our country so it can
be merged with all others. To do that, they must neutralize the people
of our country, and our people are (were) mostly white.




By: Alan Stang

"Published originally at EtherZone.com
eyes only
2003-10-13 14:12:37 UTC
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"conrad" <***@no.mail> wrote in message news:***@Gilgamesh-frog.org...

The fact that California voters so decisively got rid of red Gray
proves there is something that will rouse them from their socialist
<snip>
By: Alan Stang
"Published originally at EtherZone.com


Personally I am a fan of some of Arnold's attitudes and methods. His
personal development and focus is an inspiration. Similarly there are some
attitudes and methods of Bill Gates and Adolf Hitler that I am also a fan
of. So perhaps by a process of either love or hate for Arnold or Gray one
votes one way or another. That process has the intended appearance of an
election. Even with my personal admiration of Arnold I doubt that he was
elected as it would appear. It is probably suitable to him personally to
have been 'placed in position as governor', as the perceived achievement
feeds his egocentric nature wonderfully. Arnold has had political
aspirations for many years and will become president.
starvinmarvin
2003-10-13 14:56:58 UTC
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Post by conrad
The fact that California voters so decisively got rid of red Gray
proves there is something that will rouse them from their socialist
<snip>
By: Alan Stang
"Published originally at EtherZone.com
Personally I am a fan of some of Arnold's attitudes and methods. His
personal development and focus is an inspiration. Similarly there are some
attitudes and methods of Bill Gates and Adolf Hitler that I am also a fan
of. So perhaps by a process of either love or hate for Arnold or Gray one
votes one way or another. That process has the intended appearance of an
election. Even with my personal admiration of Arnold I doubt that he was
elected as it would appear. It is probably suitable to him personally to
have been 'placed in position as governor', as the perceived achievement
feeds his egocentric nature wonderfully. Arnold has had political
aspirations for many years and will become president.
Well we can tell you aren't from the US nor do you know much about it or
it's electoral system. Arnold was elected, legally, and he can NEVER be the
US president as he was not born here.......
Nicolas Benicoeur
2003-10-13 19:14:06 UTC
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Post by starvinmarvin
Well we can tell you aren't from the US nor do you know much about it or
it's electoral system. Arnold was elected, legally, and he can NEVER be the
US president as he was not born here.......
Who would have thought that a coke-snorting, draft-dodging frat boy would be
US president?
Righteous Nation
2003-10-13 22:33:51 UTC
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Post by Nicolas Benicoeur
Post by starvinmarvin
Well we can tell you aren't from the US nor do you know much about it or
it's electoral system. Arnold was elected, legally, and he can NEVER be
the
Post by starvinmarvin
US president as he was not born here.......
Who would have thought that a coke-snorting, draft-dodging frat boy would be
US president?
...and WHAT a convergence...yet Roman Catholic Arnold's father was SA
(no less) Nazi...and Bush's grandfather's financing, through "The
Rockefeller of Germany," and fellow Knight of Malta, papal baron Fritz
Thyssen (author of "I Paid Hitler), kicked off the whole Holocaust/WWII
after the RC Bishops Conf. at Fulda removed the "faithful's" prohibition
against voting NSDAP - and made German/Italian mobster "Prescott" Busch,
yeah post-Mayflower-WASP, suuuurrrre, scads of money off Auschwitz slave
labor.

...small world?
eyes only
2003-10-14 02:27:22 UTC
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Post by starvinmarvin
Post by conrad
The fact that California voters so decisively got rid of red Gray
proves there is something that will rouse them from their socialist
<snip>
By: Alan Stang
"Published originally at EtherZone.com
Personally I am a fan of some of Arnold's attitudes and methods. His
personal development and focus is an inspiration. Similarly there are some
attitudes and methods of Bill Gates and Adolf Hitler that I am also a fan
of. So perhaps by a process of either love or hate for Arnold or Gray one
votes one way or another. That process has the intended appearance of an
election. Even with my personal admiration of Arnold I doubt that he was
elected as it would appear. It is probably suitable to him personally to
have been 'placed in position as governor', as the perceived achievement
feeds his egocentric nature wonderfully. Arnold has had political
aspirations for many years and will become president.
Well we can tell you aren't from the US nor do you know much about it or
it's electoral system. Arnold was elected, legally, and he can NEVER be the
US president as he was not born here.......
An amendment to the CON-stitution will be made so as Arnold will be the President.
starvinmarvin
2003-10-14 13:20:13 UTC
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Post by eyes only
Post by starvinmarvin
Post by conrad
The fact that California voters so decisively got rid of red Gray
proves there is something that will rouse them from their socialist
<snip>
By: Alan Stang
"Published originally at EtherZone.com
Personally I am a fan of some of Arnold's attitudes and methods. His
personal development and focus is an inspiration. Similarly there are some
attitudes and methods of Bill Gates and Adolf Hitler that I am also a fan
of. So perhaps by a process of either love or hate for Arnold or Gray one
votes one way or another. That process has the intended appearance of an
election. Even with my personal admiration of Arnold I doubt that he was
elected as it would appear. It is probably suitable to him personally to
have been 'placed in position as governor', as the perceived achievement
feeds his egocentric nature wonderfully. Arnold has had political
aspirations for many years and will become president.
Well we can tell you aren't from the US nor do you know much about it or
it's electoral system. Arnold was elected, legally, and he can NEVER be the
US president as he was not born here.......
An amendment to the CON-stitution will be made so as Arnold will be the President.
HAHAHAHA...I guess I should have expected that one seeming this IS
alt.conspiracy. You are too funny...if we wait long enough we will just be
annexed by Mexico and than you can be president...
eyes only
2003-10-14 13:42:59 UTC
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The fact that California voters so decisively got rid of red Gray
proves there is something that will rouse them from their socialist
<snip>
By: Alan Stang
"Published originally at EtherZone.com
Personally I am a fan of some of Arnold's attitudes and methods. His
personal development and focus is an inspiration. Similarly there
are
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attitudes and methods of Bill Gates and Adolf Hitler that I am also
a
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fan
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of. So perhaps by a process of either love or hate for Arnold or
Gray
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one
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votes one way or another. That process has the intended appearance
of
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election. Even with my personal admiration of Arnold I doubt that he
was
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elected as it would appear. It is probably suitable to him
personally
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to
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have been 'placed in position as governor', as the perceived
achievement
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feeds his egocentric nature wonderfully. Arnold has had political
aspirations for many years and will become president.
Well we can tell you aren't from the US nor do you know much about it or
it's electoral system. Arnold was elected, legally, and he can NEVER
be
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the
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US president as he was not born here.......
An amendment to the CON-stitution will be made so as Arnold will be the
President.
HAHAHAHA...I guess I should have expected that one seeming this IS
alt.conspiracy. You are too funny...if we wait long enough we will just be
annexed by Mexico and than you can be president...
Um DERRRRRRR what kind of moron would not be aware of that?? oh obviously
you. And you imbecile it is nothing to do with a conspiracy theory you
idjit!!!!!!! it's been in the cards since Arnold campaigned for Hatch in
'94!
Righteous Nation
2003-10-14 17:10:15 UTC
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Post by starvinmarvin
we will just be
annexed by Mexico
Bush1 and Clinton gave us NAFTA and a Congress controlled by its
one-third RC membership signed off on it...just what the pope ordered.
Canada is majority Roman Catholic and Mexico is more so.

Read Rome's population shift spelled out in their "National Pastoral
Plan for Hispanic Ministry."

...can't have the 80% American working-class walking around on their
hind legs as if they mattered.

Whose May 2000 pronouncements and cooperative actions by his Skull and
Bones brotherhood broke the legitimate economic revolution of the
Internet and sent 3,000,000 jobs offshore to loosen America's IT
preeminence?
eyes only
2003-10-14 13:41:20 UTC
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Post by starvinmarvin
Well we can tell you aren't from the US nor do you know much about it or
it's electoral system.
Um yeah well who is 'we'? because all of 'you' are pretty fucking stupid to
think that. I suspect that 'we' is in fact 'you'.
Since living in America does not entail the necessity to vote, why would
knowledge of the electoral system correlate with being from the US? I wonder
if living in a country were voting is compulsory would make citizens into
keen political scientists? well looking around I can tell you no it does
not. In actual fact the right to vote by citizens of any country does not
indicate any knowledge of that countries electoral system other than filling
in the ballot paper. Roughly translated I'm saying to you get fucked you
condescending moron!!!
Post by starvinmarvin
Arnold was elected, legally, and
As opposed to illegally elected?? Historically Illegal and legal have no
meaning in US elections since the year 2000. At that time the supreme court
were a part of the process to put GWBullsh in power. Making a decision which
cannot be used as a precedent, even though one purpose of the supreme court
is to make decisions to be used as precedents, counting of votes was halted
and the democratic process openly crucified ;) Legal is in accordance with
the law, and law is what is created by powerful groups of men to serve
powerful groups of men.
Post by starvinmarvin
he can NEVER be the
US president as he was not born here.......
Obviously I am well aware of the system regarding this point as I have
questioned who can be president quite a lot ;) hence as I said an amendment
to the CON-stitution will be made so as Arnold will be the President. I
already said Arnold would be the governor long ago when others were righting
him off. David Icke told everyone that Bush would be President a year before
he announced his candidacy -- people laughed at him.


Regarding the so called electoral system you see it in the way that it
appears, not in the way that it works - there's quite a difference. The
appearance of a democracy to the populace gives the illusion of choice and a
perception of freedom, however the later is that any elected party continues
in the direction of the global agenda. With Arnold people want to cling
strongly to their conditioned belief in how they accept that the system
works -- why is that? well is Arnold a Republican Democrat or a Democratic
Republican? hehehe
eyes only
2003-10-14 13:55:28 UTC
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PPS?
Oh sick of you now re-plonked.

The rights of a citizen of the USA should be full and uncompromised YES?
If all men are equal it follows that they have equal rights to be president.
So what gives with the Xenophobia! You get it yet?? There's actually
somewhat of a case to be made regarding this stuff. Anyway fuckoff Marvin.
starvinmarvin
2003-10-14 14:29:56 UTC
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PPS?
Oh sick of you now re-plonked.
The rights of a citizen of the USA should be full and uncompromised YES?
If all men are equal it follows that they have equal rights to be president.
So what gives with the Xenophobia! You get it yet?? There's actually
somewhat of a case to be made regarding this stuff. Anyway fuckoff Marvin.
Oh...now look I pissed off a lunatic troll. Can't argue the facts so he
resorts to name calling and swearing. Then the real key that lets you know
you nailed them...they "PLONK" you. This is so typical left wing it isn't
even funny....thanks for proving my point.
Righteous Nation
2003-10-14 17:14:41 UTC
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is Arnold a Republican Democrat or a Democratic
Republican? hehehe
What's key is that Arnold is a virulent Roman Catholic. Why do you think
he needed to take steroids to bulk up...and now shows how queered he was
by the priests and/or his Nazi SA father (remember "the Night of the
Long Knives?" birds of feather) to have to go around molesting women.
Just an Observer
2003-10-13 14:20:33 UTC
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Boy do you really like to hear yourself talk..........it would be nice if
you had any substance in your speech?
"conrad" <***@no.mail> wrote in message news:***@Gilgamesh-frog.org...



The fact that California voters so decisively got rid of red Gray
proves there is something that will rouse them from their socialist
torpor. In this case, we are told, it was the stratospheric increase
in the automobile tax Davis imposed. Not only did they kick him out,
but also 62% of them voted Republican.

One wonders how many would have voted for Tom McClintock had the
Bohemian Grove, Bush and (maybe) Ted Kennedy not inserted the Arnold.
Senator Tom won about a million votes. There is no way to know how
many voted for Arnold in fear of Bustamante. Tom clearly stated his
beliefs. They added up to classic Americanism.

So now we have Governor Arnold, who drew an enormous chunk of the
women's vote and even of the Latino vote. We await the Democrats'
counterattack. Will they launch their own recall? Will they indict the
Arnold on charges of female flirtation? If there is one thing we can
be sure of, it is that the struggle doesn't end here.

Davis is dead. His already putrefying corpse will now be assigned some
lucrative job in the labyrinth. The Los Angeles Times, which long ago
was a real newspaper, now takes its place beside its counterpart in
New York, so now you can easily wrap fish on either coast. Its exposé
of Arnold's groping on the Thursday before the Tuesday - too late to
respond - may actually have helped him.

The trouble is that I have been able to find only two important
differences between Arnold and Red. Arnold gropes women because he
likes them. Red just smacks them around. His secretary apparently was
afraid to be in the same room with him after Davis almost shook her
teeth out. The Times didn't front-page that story.

The other difference is that Davis has not - as far as we know - posed
nude for a sodomite magazine. Those photographs are available. I
assume that from now on, every "Gay Pride" parade will routinely
include a contingent carrying large photographs of the Arnold in full-
frontal knockwurst. The caption will read: "Governor Arnold. One of
Us."

Indeed, the Arnold seems to believe everything Davis believes;
everything Maria's Uncle Teddy believes. He has said he is "ashamed"
of the Republican Party. I can't imagine any reason he became a
Republican other than the speculation that the fat slob told him to.
Did Teddy have some plan, or was he accidentally sober? Arnold gave no
thanks to Republicans at the victory celebration, but his Democrat in-
laws were with him onstage.

The "conservative" pundits are saying the recall proves "democracy"
lives. On the contrary, elections are on the way out. As I have
suggested before in these commentaries, a point is approaching at
which enough voters to make a difference in enough venues may come to
realize that it doesn't make a difference how they vote. When the
result is sufficiently important, the world government conspirators
will cancel it to get what they want. The millions of Americans who
either voted for Senator Tom or wanted to will eventually realize they
must use other means.

Remember that our President is Communist. Our government is Communist.
Our media are Communist. Our schools are Communist.

How do we know that? We know it by their fruit. We know it by their
style. American hero Joe McCarthy and others helped expose some Soviet
spy rings half a century ago. Investigators reported there were others
that were never exposed. What do members of such spy rings do? They
infiltrate. They metastasize. They pervert and subvert. They have been
doing that for fifty years and more.

We know that hidden Communists are destroying our civilization in the
same way a doctor names a systemic internal disease when he sees
certain symptoms on the surface. Where there are effects, there have
to be causes, and the style of the attack on our civilization is
crucial. The Communist world government conspirators are trying to
keep the lid on with phony, managed elections like the one they have
just conducted in California, while they brainwash an entire nation.
This is what the Communists did in Red China.

By now, the procedure is well known. A man who is not on the approved
list says something true about a forbidden subject. He is routinely
subjected to the torments of Hell, to a torrent of abuse so
widespread, so intense, that he quails. He apologizes. Often, he quits
or his fired from his job. Recently, for instance, the conspiracy Rush
Limbaugh says isn't there bit him in the behind. Something similar
happened to a broadcaster in far off New Zealand.

What are we being trained to do? We are being trained to shut up. We
are being trained to understand that, despite Patrick Henry and the
Bill of Rights, when you say something truly controversial, bad things
will happen to you. You will be disgraced. You will lose your job. You
may lose your home and family. All these things could happen if you
refuse to be still while the Communists lower our country so it can be
submerged in Der New Vorld Ordnung. Can you hear the Horst Wessel now?

While we wait to see what Der Arnold will do about illegal
immigration, much if not most of the legal immigration comes to us
from Africa. Smirking drunk George Bush the Smaller is planting
Africans around our country. This has nothing to do with race. I'm not
talking about distinguished champions of our civilization like Tom
Sowell.

I'm talking about those people you have heard about who can't use a
door knob; who don't know and don't care about our civilization and
country; who don't share our beliefs and religion; people who will
bring others like themselves here as soon as they can. Compared to
these folks, our Mexican visitors, who are Christians, seem like
members of the family.

It is good for everyone when people feel good about themselves. When
people feel good about themselves there is less trouble between them.
It is good for blacks - and for everyone else - when they feel good
about themselves. If there is no chip on the shoulder, there will be
no fist in the hand. And it is just as good for whites - who have the
same rights - to feel good about themselves.

Reread that last sentence. The Communists scheming to destroy us - the
conspirators buffoons like Bill O'Spin say are not there - have made
that innocuous sentence controversial. The Communists have permeated
our culture with the idea that the "white man" is no good, is
contemptible, is incompetent, is cruel, is worthless, is the cause of
your dandruff, your failure, your unhappiness, and on and on and on.
And the white man is being trained to believe it. He bows his neck and
keeps his trap shut.

Here too race is irrelevant. The conspirators are not doing this
because they have some distaste for whites. The conspirators are white
themselves. They are doing it, again, to reduce our country so it can
be merged with all others. To do that, they must neutralize the people
of our country, and our people are (were) mostly white.




By: Alan Stang

"Published originally at EtherZone.com
Thomas Curmudgeon
2003-10-13 18:42:42 UTC
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One thing I really like about Arnold is that he threatens ugly racist,
sexist, homophobic and religious underpinnings of the republican party.

Right wing nutters are shitting their pants over the new California
Republican governors' opinion of the nasty mainstream of the republican
party.
Jason Gallas
2003-10-13 21:53:53 UTC
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Post by Thomas Curmudgeon
One thing I really like about Arnold is that he threatens ugly racist,
sexist, homophobic and religious underpinnings of the republican party.
Right wing nutters are shitting their pants over the new California
Republican governors' opinion of the nasty mainstream of the republican
party.
And left wing nutters are shocked to find out that their long held
stereotypes of what a Republican is are being challenged. Not to mention
their ideas on their own base (ie. latin voters vote mostly democrat, women
voters will not vote for a republican that is accused of "fondling", etc.)
Little Brother
2003-10-14 00:59:05 UTC
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Post by Jason Gallas
Post by Thomas Curmudgeon
One thing I really like about Arnold is that he threatens ugly racist,
sexist, homophobic and religious underpinnings of the republican party.
Right wing nutters are shitting their pants over the new California
Republican governors' opinion of the nasty mainstream of the republican
party.
And left wing nutters are shocked to find out that their long held
stereotypes of what a Republican is are being challenged.
Does this mean that Republicans don't stand for anything except being elected?
Where's the platform? haha.
Post by Jason Gallas
Not to mention
their ideas on their own base (ie. latin voters vote mostly democrat, women
voters will not vote for a republican that is accused of "fondling", etc.)
--
Vote for me if you want to live!
Jason Gallas
2003-10-14 21:15:17 UTC
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Post by Little Brother
Post by Jason Gallas
Post by Thomas Curmudgeon
One thing I really like about Arnold is that he threatens ugly racist,
sexist, homophobic and religious underpinnings of the republican party.
Right wing nutters are shitting their pants over the new California
Republican governors' opinion of the nasty mainstream of the republican
party.
And left wing nutters are shocked to find out that their long held
stereotypes of what a Republican is are being challenged.
Does this mean that Republicans don't stand for anything except being elected?
No, it means that Republicans are diverse in nature and don't fit into
cookie cutter categories like "arch conservative" or "right winger" or even
into racial groups (ie. the majority of latin voters voted for a republican
cantidate in California). It also means that voters are starting to realize
that the Democrats that have been in power in California cannot get it done
and that it is time for a power shift.
Post by Little Brother
Where's the platform? haha.
To say that a party is the sole determining factor of a cantidate's platform
is just an old way of thinking. Cantidates are free to take whatever
position they wish on any policy. Some of which are more important than
others. Obviously in this election the issues were spending and fiscal
responsibility. Therefore those were the issues that were important to both
the voters and the republican base, making social issues (gay marriage,
pro-choice/life) irrelevant.
Post by Little Brother
Post by Jason Gallas
Not to mention
their ideas on their own base (ie. latin voters vote mostly democrat, women
voters will not vote for a republican that is accused of "fondling", etc.)
--
Vote for me if you want to live!
Again, Democrats don't have a clue what is going on and cannot see through
their own rhetoric that voters in California are changing their opinions
based on performance (or lack thereof) of Democratic cantidates.
Little Brother
2003-10-14 23:14:04 UTC
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Post by Little Brother
Post by Little Brother
Post by Jason Gallas
Post by Thomas Curmudgeon
One thing I really like about Arnold is that he threatens ugly racist,
sexist, homophobic and religious underpinnings of the republican party.
Right wing nutters are shitting their pants over the new California
Republican governors' opinion of the nasty mainstream of the republican
party.
And left wing nutters are shocked to find out that their long held
stereotypes of what a Republican is are being challenged.
Does this mean that Republicans don't stand for anything except being
elected?
No, it means that Republicans are diverse in nature and don't fit into
cookie cutter categories like "arch conservative" or "right winger" or even
into racial groups (ie. the majority of latin voters voted for a republican
cantidate in California). It also means that voters are starting to realize
that the Democrats that have been in power in California cannot get it done
and that it is time for a power shift.
Post by Little Brother
Where's the platform? haha.
To say that a party is the sole determining factor of a cantidate's platform
is just an old way of thinking. Cantidates are free to take whatever
position they wish on any policy. Some of which are more important than
others. Obviously in this election the issues were spending and fiscal
responsibility. Therefore those were the issues that were important to both
the voters and the republican base, making social issues (gay marriage,
pro-choice/life) irrelevant.
But fiscal responsibility and spending aren't important for Republicans on
national issues! Isn't the whole Republican thing all about beating Democrats
-- no matter what the issues? Isn't party politics just another televised team
sport?
Post by Little Brother
Post by Little Brother
Post by Jason Gallas
Not to mention
their ideas on their own base (ie. latin voters vote mostly democrat,
women
Post by Little Brother
Post by Jason Gallas
voters will not vote for a republican that is accused of "fondling",
etc.)
Post by Little Brother
--
Vote for me if you want to live!
Again, Democrats don't have a clue what is going on and cannot see through
their own rhetoric that voters in California are changing their opinions
based on performance (or lack thereof) of Democratic cantidates.
--
Vote for me if you want to live!
n***@special.qom
2003-10-14 23:40:13 UTC
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Post by Little Brother
But fiscal responsibility and spending aren't important for Republicans on
national issues!
First, I agree with you on your larger point.

But on the issue of deficit spending, there are two important factors:

A federal deficit influences a lower prime interest rate (through the
Fed), which leads to increased lending, investment, and all that fun
junk. This is very useful in an economic recovery. It also helps
create jobs, which is pertinent to the times.

On the other hand, a state deficit doesn't cause this. In fact, it
scares investors away. Why? Because there is no state economic
system. The Fed doesn't decide interest rates on state budgets, but
on the federal budget. And investors avoid strong states. So do
businesses and laborers.
Post by Little Brother
Isn't the whole Republican thing all about beating Democrats
-- no matter what the issues? Isn't party politics just another televised team
sport?
Yes. Of course. Republicans and Democrats do play to their bases,
with the hope of not alienating moderates and turning away
independents.

Right now, the Republicans are doing a far better job. Meanwhile, the
opposition party is stuck in a quagmire. Irony intended. I'd rather
the Democrats grab hold of their necks and pull their heads back out
into the sunshine so that they could serve everyone as a strong
opposition party. But, that's not happening.

B
2003-10-14 14:54:16 UTC
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Post by Thomas Curmudgeon
One thing I really like about Arnold is that he threatens ugly racist,
sexist, homophobic and religious underpinnings of the republican party.
Right wing nutters are shitting their pants over the new California
Republican governors' opinion of the nasty mainstream of the republican
party.
Gary Bauer ("American Values") sez on Buchanan & Press (MSNBC), "I am
concerned that he doesn't represent republican values"

I love these little right-wing cess pools, they all have names like
"American Values" so that if anybody opposes them the headline will read 'X
opposes American Values" LMAO... so clever eh?

B.



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2003-10-13 23:23:52 UTC
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The fact that California voters so decisively got rid of red Gray
proves there is something that will rouse them from their socialist
torpor. In this case, we are told, it was the stratospheric increase
in the automobile tax Davis imposed. Not only did they kick him out,
but also 62% of them voted Republican.

One wonders how many would have voted for Tom McClintock had the
Bohemian Grove, Bush and (maybe) Ted Kennedy not inserted the Arnold.
Senator Tom won about a million votes. There is no way to know how
many voted for Arnold in fear of Bustamante. Tom clearly stated his
beliefs. They added up to classic Americanism.

So now we have Governor Arnold, who drew an enormous chunk of the
women's vote and even of the Latino vote. We await the Democrats'
counterattack. Will they launch their own recall? Will they indict the
Arnold on charges of female flirtation? If there is one thing we can
be sure of, it is that the struggle doesn't end here.

Davis is dead. His already putrefying corpse will now be assigned some
lucrative job in the labyrinth. The Los Angeles Times, which long ago
was a real newspaper, now takes its place beside its counterpart in
New York, so now you can easily wrap fish on either coast. Its exposé
of Arnold's groping on the Thursday before the Tuesday - too late to
respond - may actually have helped him.

The trouble is that I have been able to find only two important
differences between Arnold and Red. Arnold gropes women because he
likes them. Red just smacks them around. His secretary apparently was
afraid to be in the same room with him after Davis almost shook her
teeth out. The Times didn't front-page that story.

The other difference is that Davis has not - as far as we know - posed
nude for a sodomite magazine. Those photographs are available. I
assume that from now on, every "Gay Pride" parade will routinely
include a contingent carrying large photographs of the Arnold in full-
frontal knockwurst. The caption will read: "Governor Arnold. One of
Us."

Indeed, the Arnold seems to believe everything Davis believes;
everything Maria's Uncle Teddy believes. He has said he is "ashamed"
of the Republican Party. I can't imagine any reason he became a
Republican other than the speculation that the fat slob told him to.
Did Teddy have some plan, or was he accidentally sober? Arnold gave no
thanks to Republicans at the victory celebration, but his Democrat in-
laws were with him onstage.

The "conservative" pundits are saying the recall proves "democracy"
lives. On the contrary, elections are on the way out. As I have
suggested before in these commentaries, a point is approaching at
which enough voters to make a difference in enough venues may come to
realize that it doesn't make a difference how they vote. When the
result is sufficiently important, the world government conspirators
will cancel it to get what they want. The millions of Americans who
either voted for Senator Tom or wanted to will eventually realize they
must use other means.

Remember that our President is Communist. Our government is Communist.
Our media are Communist. Our schools are Communist.

How do we know that? We know it by their fruit. We know it by their
style. American hero Joe McCarthy and others helped expose some Soviet
spy rings half a century ago. Investigators reported there were others
that were never exposed. What do members of such spy rings do? They
infiltrate. They metastasize. They pervert and subvert. They have been
doing that for fifty years and more.

We know that hidden Communists are destroying our civilization in the
same way a doctor names a systemic internal disease when he sees
certain symptoms on the surface. Where there are effects, there have
to be causes, and the style of the attack on our civilization is
crucial. The Communist world government conspirators are trying to
keep the lid on with phony, managed elections like the one they have
just conducted in California, while they brainwash an entire nation.
This is what the Communists did in Red China.

By now, the procedure is well known. A man who is not on the approved
list says something true about a forbidden subject. He is routinely
subjected to the torments of Hell, to a torrent of abuse so
widespread, so intense, that he quails. He apologizes. Often, he quits
or his fired from his job. Recently, for instance, the conspiracy Rush
Limbaugh says isn't there bit him in the behind. Something similar
happened to a broadcaster in far off New Zealand.

What are we being trained to do? We are being trained to shut up. We
are being trained to understand that, despite Patrick Henry and the
Bill of Rights, when you say something truly controversial, bad things
will happen to you. You will be disgraced. You will lose your job. You
may lose your home and family. All these things could happen if you
refuse to be still while the Communists lower our country so it can be
submerged in Der New Vorld Ordnung. Can you hear the Horst Wessel now?

While we wait to see what Der Arnold will do about illegal
immigration, much if not most of the legal immigration comes to us
from Africa. Smirking drunk George Bush the Smaller is planting
Africans around our country. This has nothing to do with race. I'm not
talking about distinguished champions of our civilization like Tom
Sowell.


Funny the Africans I know that moved to the USA , consist of doctors , with
better qualifications and experience than 80 % of American doctors.
Pharmacists , accountants ,chemical engineers,programmers,geologists
etc.Trust me they can work a door knob. This is an insult to Africans of
every colour.... oh yes and they are all either christian or jewish. seems
we have a lot in common with you. Toomy apprehension.


I'm talking about those people you have heard about who can't use a
door knob; who don't know and don't care about our civilization and
country; who don't share our beliefs and religion; people who will
bring others like themselves here as soon as they can. Compared to
these folks, our Mexican visitors, who are Christians, seem like
members of the family.

It is good for everyone when people feel good about themselves. When
people feel good about themselves there is less trouble between them.
It is good for blacks - and for everyone else - when they feel good
about themselves. If there is no chip on the shoulder, there will be
no fist in the hand. And it is just as good for whites - who have the
same rights - to feel good about themselves.

Reread that last sentence. The Communists scheming to destroy us - the
conspirators buffoons like Bill O'Spin say are not there - have made
that innocuous sentence controversial. The Communists have permeated
our culture with the idea that the "white man" is no good, is
contemptible, is incompetent, is cruel, is worthless, is the cause of
your dandruff, your failure, your unhappiness, and on and on and on.
And the white man is being trained to believe it. He bows his neck and
keeps his trap shut.

Here too race is irrelevant. The conspirators are not doing this
because they have some distaste for whites. The conspirators are white
themselves. They are doing it, again, to reduce our country so it can
be merged with all others. To do that, they must neutralize the people
of our country, and our people are (were) mostly white.




By: Alan Stang

"Published originally at EtherZone.com
Len
2003-10-14 12:58:43 UTC
Permalink
Top Post Only:
All true.
However when you reach for the race card, be careful.
All of US are Americans.
Anyone playing the divisive race card is not American.
Post by conrad
The fact that California voters so decisively got rid of red Gray
proves there is something that will rouse them from their socialist
torpor. In this case, we are told, it was the stratospheric increase
in the automobile tax Davis imposed. Not only did they kick him out,
but also 62% of them voted Republican.
One wonders how many would have voted for Tom McClintock had the
Bohemian Grove, Bush and (maybe) Ted Kennedy not inserted the Arnold.
Senator Tom won about a million votes. There is no way to know how
many voted for Arnold in fear of Bustamante. Tom clearly stated his
beliefs. They added up to classic Americanism.
So now we have Governor Arnold, who drew an enormous chunk of the
women's vote and even of the Latino vote. We await the Democrats'
counterattack. Will they launch their own recall? Will they indict the
Arnold on charges of female flirtation? If there is one thing we can
be sure of, it is that the struggle doesn't end here.
Davis is dead. His already putrefying corpse will now be assigned some
lucrative job in the labyrinth. The Los Angeles Times, which long ago
was a real newspaper, now takes its place beside its counterpart in
New York, so now you can easily wrap fish on either coast. Its exposé
of Arnold's groping on the Thursday before the Tuesday - too late to
respond - may actually have helped him.
The trouble is that I have been able to find only two important
differences between Arnold and Red. Arnold gropes women because he
likes them. Red just smacks them around. His secretary apparently was
afraid to be in the same room with him after Davis almost shook her
teeth out. The Times didn't front-page that story.
The other difference is that Davis has not - as far as we know - posed
nude for a sodomite magazine. Those photographs are available. I
assume that from now on, every "Gay Pride" parade will routinely
include a contingent carrying large photographs of the Arnold in full-
frontal knockwurst. The caption will read: "Governor Arnold. One of
Us."
Indeed, the Arnold seems to believe everything Davis believes;
everything Maria's Uncle Teddy believes. He has said he is "ashamed"
of the Republican Party. I can't imagine any reason he became a
Republican other than the speculation that the fat slob told him to.
Did Teddy have some plan, or was he accidentally sober? Arnold gave no
thanks to Republicans at the victory celebration, but his Democrat in-
laws were with him onstage.
The "conservative" pundits are saying the recall proves "democracy"
lives. On the contrary, elections are on the way out. As I have
suggested before in these commentaries, a point is approaching at
which enough voters to make a difference in enough venues may come to
realize that it doesn't make a difference how they vote. When the
result is sufficiently important, the world government conspirators
will cancel it to get what they want. The millions of Americans who
either voted for Senator Tom or wanted to will eventually realize they
must use other means.
Remember that our President is Communist. Our government is Communist.
Our media are Communist. Our schools are Communist.
How do we know that? We know it by their fruit. We know it by their
style. American hero Joe McCarthy and others helped expose some Soviet
spy rings half a century ago. Investigators reported there were others
that were never exposed. What do members of such spy rings do? They
infiltrate. They metastasize. They pervert and subvert. They have been
doing that for fifty years and more.
We know that hidden Communists are destroying our civilization in the
same way a doctor names a systemic internal disease when he sees
certain symptoms on the surface. Where there are effects, there have
to be causes, and the style of the attack on our civilization is
crucial. The Communist world government conspirators are trying to
keep the lid on with phony, managed elections like the one they have
just conducted in California, while they brainwash an entire nation.
This is what the Communists did in Red China.
By now, the procedure is well known. A man who is not on the approved
list says something true about a forbidden subject. He is routinely
subjected to the torments of Hell, to a torrent of abuse so
widespread, so intense, that he quails. He apologizes. Often, he quits
or his fired from his job. Recently, for instance, the conspiracy Rush
Limbaugh says isn't there bit him in the behind. Something similar
happened to a broadcaster in far off New Zealand.
What are we being trained to do? We are being trained to shut up. We
are being trained to understand that, despite Patrick Henry and the
Bill of Rights, when you say something truly controversial, bad things
will happen to you. You will be disgraced. You will lose your job. You
may lose your home and family. All these things could happen if you
refuse to be still while the Communists lower our country so it can be
submerged in Der New Vorld Ordnung. Can you hear the Horst Wessel now?
While we wait to see what Der Arnold will do about illegal
immigration, much if not most of the legal immigration comes to us
from Africa. Smirking drunk George Bush the Smaller is planting
Africans around our country. This has nothing to do with race. I'm not
talking about distinguished champions of our civilization like Tom
Sowell.
I'm talking about those people you have heard about who can't use a
door knob; who don't know and don't care about our civilization and
country; who don't share our beliefs and religion; people who will
bring others like themselves here as soon as they can. Compared to
these folks, our Mexican visitors, who are Christians, seem like
members of the family.
It is good for everyone when people feel good about themselves. When
people feel good about themselves there is less trouble between them.
It is good for blacks - and for everyone else - when they feel good
about themselves. If there is no chip on the shoulder, there will be
no fist in the hand. And it is just as good for whites - who have the
same rights - to feel good about themselves.
Reread that last sentence. The Communists scheming to destroy us - the
conspirators buffoons like Bill O'Spin say are not there - have made
that innocuous sentence controversial. The Communists have permeated
our culture with the idea that the "white man" is no good, is
contemptible, is incompetent, is cruel, is worthless, is the cause of
your dandruff, your failure, your unhappiness, and on and on and on.
And the white man is being trained to believe it. He bows his neck and
keeps his trap shut.
Here too race is irrelevant. The conspirators are not doing this
because they have some distaste for whites. The conspirators are white
themselves. They are doing it, again, to reduce our country so it can
be merged with all others. To do that, they must neutralize the people
of our country, and our people are (were) mostly white.
By: Alan Stang
"Published originally at EtherZone.com
Righteous Nation
2003-10-14 17:03:37 UTC
Permalink
Post by Len
All true.
However when you reach for the race card, be careful.
All of US are Americans.
Anyone playing the divisive race card is not American.
Perfectly said.

America the Righteous, or Babylon the perverse.

Perhaps one day Americans will wake up to the Roman Catholic Church's
promotion of illegal immigration in their "National Pastoral Plan for
Hispanic Ministry," and recognize that we are under attack by the same
Mob who gave us Rockefeller and the CFR, Hitler and the Holocaust, the
Kennedy Assassination and Vietnam, as well as the Bushes, Irancontra and
9/11.

It isn't race...

It depends on which "team" you're on: a Jeffersonian Ideal America where
Truth and Justice reign; or, submission to feudal Babylon's 99.7%
pedophile priesthood yoked with Vatican-banker Rockefeller and their
CFR/CIA/Fed false elite.

Rush Limbaugh (on his TV show): "The Roman Catholic Church is the
rock-ribbed backbone of American moral value."
...hmmmm...dodged Vietnam with an ingrown hair in the unwashed crack of
his ass...three marriages and no kids...dope addict...hmmm

...and Newt Gingrich is a "good man." ...oh Pierre???

George W.'s right there in the same "class" with him...needed the
fertility doctor to get him two daughters...but the dodger can sure play
aviator dress up just like a "man." Check out the 9/11 Booker Elementary
video to see the shifty eyed weasel knowing what was going on...all
planned out by other traitor/weasels just like his dad when he helped
kill JFK to send us to the pope's Vietnam.

...turns out Dick Cheney got him a kid nine months and two days after
the announcement of a draft policy change to include childless
husbands...what a "man." Then his lesbian-potboiler-author wife raised a
lesbian for a daughter. Wonder which of them did the molesting. How much
does he get per year from Halliburton?

And Hitler-admiring 5' 8" dyed-hair pervert Arnold, yet Roman Catholic,
is the son of a Nazi SA police captain...German RC Shriver married a
prince of the Austrian RC hierarchy. Just a tad in-bred...and fascist.
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