Discussion:
The French and Michael Moore
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hoov85
2004-05-22 23:03:21 UTC
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All of them will rot in hell.
SkyModem
2004-05-22 23:17:28 UTC
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| All of them will rot in hell.

Only if the Devil wins.
JustForFun
2004-05-22 23:38:52 UTC
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Post by hoov85
All of them will rot in hell.
Dude, are you THAT bored?

Oh, and where do you think YOUR faggot ass is going?
slatconsulting
2004-05-23 00:09:16 UTC
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Post by JustForFun
Post by hoov85
All of them will rot in hell.
Dude, are you THAT bored?
Oh, and where do you think YOUR faggot ass is going?
The French? Gaga over a venomous, anti-Bush screed? C'est impossible!
kens
2004-05-23 00:26:03 UTC
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It was an AMERICAN jury that awarded the Palm 'dOr,
thank God there are some thinking people left in the world and they
appreciate cinema.

And as the release and timing will be PERFECT for the American Democratic
Party, its just even more satisfying,

It even made the Commander in Thief fall off of his tricycle when he heard.

Hail to the 'Skins
Post by slatconsulting
Post by JustForFun
Post by hoov85
All of them will rot in hell.
Dude, are you THAT bored?
Oh, and where do you think YOUR faggot ass is going?
The French? Gaga over a venomous, anti-Bush screed? C'est impossible!
slatconsulting
2004-05-23 00:40:12 UTC
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Post by kens
It was an AMERICAN jury that awarded the Palm 'dOr,
thank God there are some thinking people left in the world and they
appreciate cinema.
And as the release and timing will be PERFECT for the American
Democratic Party, its just even more satisfying,
It even made the Commander in Thief fall off of his tricycle when he heard.
Hail to the 'Skins
Post by slatconsulting
Post by JustForFun
Post by hoov85
All of them will rot in hell.
Dude, are you THAT bored?
Oh, and where do you think YOUR faggot ass is going?
The French? Gaga over a venomous, anti-Bush screed? C'est impossible!
I'm looking forward to Moore's expose on Chirac and his 'ol buddy Saddam.
He is making one, isn't he? Yeah right.
The Dude
2004-05-23 21:27:41 UTC
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Post by slatconsulting
Post by kens
It was an AMERICAN jury that awarded the Palm 'dOr,
thank God there are some thinking people left in the world and they
appreciate cinema.
And as the release and timing will be PERFECT for the American
Democratic Party, its just even more satisfying,
It even made the Commander in Thief fall off of his tricycle when he heard.
Hail to the 'Skins
Post by slatconsulting
Post by JustForFun
Post by hoov85
All of them will rot in hell.
Dude, are you THAT bored?
Oh, and where do you think YOUR faggot ass is going?
The French? Gaga over a venomous, anti-Bush screed? C'est impossible!
I'm looking forward to Moore's expose on Chirac and his 'ol buddy Saddam.
He is making one, isn't he? Yeah right.
So you have a cite that Saddam and Moore are buddies? What a moron. You
wouldn't have any pictures of Moore shaking hands with Saddam do you? I've
got one of Rumsfield. Another child. Street lights are on, bed time.
slatconsulting
2004-05-23 21:35:36 UTC
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Post by The Dude
Post by slatconsulting
Post by kens
It was an AMERICAN jury that awarded the Palm 'dOr,
thank God there are some thinking people left in the world and they
appreciate cinema.
And as the release and timing will be PERFECT for the American
Democratic Party, its just even more satisfying,
It even made the Commander in Thief fall off of his tricycle when he heard.
Hail to the 'Skins
Post by slatconsulting
Post by JustForFun
Post by hoov85
All of them will rot in hell.
Dude, are you THAT bored?
Oh, and where do you think YOUR faggot ass is going?
The French? Gaga over a venomous, anti-Bush screed? C'est
impossible!
I'm looking forward to Moore's expose on Chirac and his 'ol buddy
Saddam. He is making one, isn't he? Yeah right.
So you have a cite that Saddam and Moore are buddies? What a moron.
You wouldn't have any pictures of Moore shaking hands with Saddam do
you? I've got one of Rumsfield. Another child. Street lights are on,
bed time.
Do you have a functioning brain stem? My post clearly implies that Saddam
and Chirac are/were buddies, not Moore. Idiot.
The Dude
2004-05-23 23:25:43 UTC
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Post by slatconsulting
Post by The Dude
Post by slatconsulting
Post by kens
It was an AMERICAN jury that awarded the Palm 'dOr,
thank God there are some thinking people left in the world and they
appreciate cinema.
And as the release and timing will be PERFECT for the American
Democratic Party, its just even more satisfying,
It even made the Commander in Thief fall off of his tricycle when he heard.
Hail to the 'Skins
Post by slatconsulting
Post by JustForFun
Post by hoov85
All of them will rot in hell.
Dude, are you THAT bored?
Oh, and where do you think YOUR faggot ass is going?
The French? Gaga over a venomous, anti-Bush screed? C'est impossible!
I'm looking forward to Moore's expose on Chirac and his 'ol buddy
Saddam. He is making one, isn't he? Yeah right.
So you have a cite that Saddam and Moore are buddies? What a moron.
You wouldn't have any pictures of Moore shaking hands with Saddam do
you? I've got one of Rumsfield. Another child. Street lights are on,
bed time.
Do you have a functioning brain stem? My post clearly implies that Saddam
and Chirac are/were buddies, not Moore. Idiot.
No it doesn't, if you passed english in high school and diagramed the
sentence we did way back when, remove the words "Chirac" and "and" you still
have a sentence. If you correctly wrote your post it would have said "Chirac
and Chirac's buddy". Your post does not clearly imply that you meant
Chirac's buddy. Like I said, a child or someone who has very bad writing
skills or just doesn't understand the basics of writing a simple sentence
correctly. Which is it?
natch
2004-05-24 12:35:01 UTC
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Post by kens
It was an AMERICAN jury that awarded the Palm 'dOr,
You and I know that but most of these knee-jerk conservatives don't
have the brains to think for 2 seconds.
JustForFun
2004-05-23 02:12:04 UTC
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Post by slatconsulting
Post by JustForFun
Post by hoov85
All of them will rot in hell.
Dude, are you THAT bored?
Oh, and where do you think YOUR faggot ass is going?
The French?
Oh, man...you condemned him to WORSE than hell.....
SNORKY
2004-05-23 00:33:38 UTC
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Post by hoov85
All of them will rot in hell.
Personally, I'd like to see them rot on earth in my lifetime. The
sooner the better.


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Guarantee: Catch ole Snork in an Ad Hominem and he
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Bear
2004-05-23 10:41:16 UTC
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Post by SNORKY
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Dennis <drjudsjr> 12/30/2003
Jeffrey Davis 12/31/2003
VicXnews 01/20/2004
StephenJ 04/19/2004
Zaphod Beeblebrox 05/14/2004
Congratulations, JFF, you have punked this bitch often enough, and
well enough, to get yourself on his Debate Kill List...

I still beat you onto it, though... nyaaaaa, nyaaaaa...

You'll have to try harder next time, LOL...
JustForFun
2004-05-23 15:52:30 UTC
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Post by Bear
Post by SNORKY
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Dennis <drjudsjr> 12/30/2003
Jeffrey Davis 12/31/2003
VicXnews 01/20/2004
StephenJ 04/19/2004
Zaphod Beeblebrox 05/14/2004
Congratulations, JFF, you have punked this bitch often enough, and
well enough, to get yourself on his Debate Kill List...
Funny stuff...of course, I sure wouldn't call what he does,
"debate"...
Post by Bear
I still beat you onto it, though... nyaaaaa, nyaaaaa...
Lol...yeah, by you're an old man with much more experience than I. ;-)
Post by Bear
You'll have to try harder next time, LOL...
Bear
2004-05-23 20:04:01 UTC
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Post by JustForFun
Post by Bear
Post by SNORKY
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Dennis <drjudsjr> 12/30/2003
Jeffrey Davis 12/31/2003
VicXnews 01/20/2004
StephenJ 04/19/2004
Zaphod Beeblebrox 05/14/2004
Congratulations, JFF, you have punked this bitch often enough, and
well enough, to get yourself on his Debate Kill List...
Funny stuff...of course, I sure wouldn't call what he does,
"debate"...
Post by Bear
I still beat you onto it, though... nyaaaaa, nyaaaaa...
Lol...yeah, by you're an old man with much more experience than I. ;-)
You were also handicapped by being a conservative... think about that,
Snorky is an arch-conservative, but he's even got good conservatives
like yourself on his "Do Not Debate" list...

In the interest of truth in advertising, he should be compelled to
change the name of that list to "Posters who have punked me too many
times"...
Mr. N
2004-05-23 06:56:44 UTC
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Post by hoov85
All of them will rot in hell.
Really? Why is that?

What mortal sin have either the French or Michael Moore committed?

Or is it now considered a mortal sin to publicly disagree with St. George W.
Bush?
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-Mr. N
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The Bush administration is a national disgrace.
Bear
2004-05-23 10:41:55 UTC
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Post by Mr. N
Post by hoov85
All of them will rot in hell.
Really? Why is that?
What mortal sin have either the French or Michael Moore committed?
Or is it now considered a mortal sin to publicly disagree with St. George W.
Bush?
It is to any resident of the Lunatic Fringe of the Conservative movement...
Douglas Lang
2004-05-23 12:51:58 UTC
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Post by Mr. N
Post by hoov85
All of them will rot in hell.
Really? Why is that?
What mortal sin have either the French or Michael Moore committed?
Or is it now considered a mortal sin to publicly disagree with St. George W.
Bush?
Who said it was a mortal sin? I hate it when you psychos think Michael Moore
can criticize the President and accuse him of a mass conspiracy to milk the
world of oil with the saudis, but when we disagree with Michael Moore we are
saying he is a mortal sinner?

What I do not get about Michael Moore is his irony. He says Bush is dumb ,
but his entire documentry basically states Bush set up this mass conspiracy
with his saudi friends in order to milk Iraqs oil fields and stroke the
petroleum companies. Which is it? He is dumb? or smart enough to conspire to
take the worlds most valuable resource? LOL..

Here are the facts; Bush stumbles on a few words so lets call him stupid and
use this to further our socialist mission.
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The Bush administration is a national disgrace.
Mr. N
2004-05-23 17:21:39 UTC
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Post by Douglas Lang
Post by Mr. N
Post by hoov85
All of them will rot in hell.
Really? Why is that?
What mortal sin have either the French or Michael Moore committed?
Or is it now considered a mortal sin to publicly disagree with St.
George
Post by Douglas Lang
W.
Post by Mr. N
Bush?
Who said it was a mortal sin?
That's what it takes to "rot in hell", isn't it?
Post by Douglas Lang
I hate it when you psychos think Michael Moore
can criticize the President and accuse him of a mass conspiracy to milk the
world of oil with the saudis, but when we disagree with Michael Moore we are
saying he is a mortal sinner?
You need to go back and read the post that I responded to. It said that
both the French and Michael Moore will "rot in hell".

In order to "rot in hell" according to Christian Mythology, one must be
guilty of mortal sin.
Post by Douglas Lang
What I do not get about Michael Moore is his irony. He says Bush is dumb ,
but his entire documentry basically states Bush set up this mass conspiracy
with his saudi friends in order to milk Iraqs oil fields and stroke the
petroleum companies.
Have you seen the film? How do you know it says this?

My impression from those who have seen it is that Bush was used as a tool by
the Saudis - a dupe of the highest order. Doesn't take much intelligence to
get suckered. Right-wingers are ample proof of that.
Post by Douglas Lang
Which is it? He is dumb? or smart enough to conspire to
take the worlds most valuable resource?
He's dumb, and an easy patsy, helped along by people who mis-place all this
faith and admiration in the idiot.
Post by Douglas Lang
Here are the facts; Bush stumbles on a few words so lets call him stupid and
use this to further our socialist mission.
No, let's call him stupid because he's stupid. What "socialist mission" are
you talking about? Do you even know what the word "socialist" means?
--
-Mr. N
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The Bush administration is a national disgrace.
Douglas Lang
2004-05-23 23:33:12 UTC
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Post by Mr. N
That's what it takes to "rot in hell", isn't it?
Who with sound mind said its a mortal sin?
Post by Mr. N
Post by Douglas Lang
What I do not get about Michael Moore is his irony. He says Bush is dumb ,
but his entire documentry basically states Bush set up this mass
conspiracy
Post by Douglas Lang
with his saudi friends in order to milk Iraqs oil fields and stroke the
petroleum companies.
Have you seen the film? How do you know it says this?
Michael Moore said so at the Canes film festival. He siad the film shows how
much of a idiot bush is and his conpiracy with his saudi friends to suck the
world dry of oil.
Post by Mr. N
My impression from those who have seen it is that Bush was used as a tool by
the Saudis - a dupe of the highest order. Doesn't take much intelligence to
get suckered. Right-wingers are ample proof of that.
Why would the Saudis want the USA to start buying Saudi Oil?
Post by Mr. N
Post by Douglas Lang
Which is it? He is dumb? or smart enough to conspire to
take the worlds most valuable resource?
He's dumb, and an easy patsy, helped along by people who mis-place all this
faith and admiration in the idiot.
According to Michael Moores statements this was a Bush conspiracy from day
one. Infact Moore said we have all been duped by Bush at the Caanes film
festival. Infact Moore accused Bush of "stealing the '00 election,
overlooking terrorism warnings before September 11 and fanning fears of more
attacks to secure Americans' support for the Iraq war."


Here is how Michael Moore takes advantage of a United States soldiers mom in
the film.... Absoloutely sick... shows the opportunist this guy really is.
"Moore talks with resident Lila Lipscomb during her daily routine, hanging
an American flag in front of her house. He returns later as Lipscomb
heart-wrenchingly reads the final letter from her son, Michael Pedersen,
killed in action in Iraq.

As her patriotism turns to bitterness against the federal government,
Lipscomb journeys to Washington, D.C. Near the end of Fahrenheit 9/11,
Lipscomb stares at the White House and says, "I finally have a place to put
all my pain and anger." "
Post by Mr. N
Post by Douglas Lang
Here are the facts; Bush stumbles on a few words so lets call him stupid
and
Post by Douglas Lang
use this to further our socialist mission.
No, let's call him stupid because he's stupid. What "socialist mission" are
you talking about? Do you even know what the word "socialist" means?
Yes I know what the word socialist means. Its the main battery of you
Anti-Bush guys. You idiots have been using any possible contreversey you can
to push your socialist mission in America. I am not even going to answer
your "he is stupid" statement. Personally I am not the biggest fan of Bush.
I wish we could have another Republican in there. However stupid people dont
buy a baseball team, get a new stadium, and then sell the part of the team
they own for more money. Stupid people dont go to Yale. Stupid people dont
become President. It just doesnt happen. You are just upset that I prove the
fact that you will use anything to tarnish his image for the sake of pushing
your psycho socialist agenda here in the states.
Mr. N
2004-05-24 01:13:45 UTC
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Post by Douglas Lang
Post by Mr. N
That's what it takes to "rot in hell", isn't it?
Who with sound mind said its a mortal sin?
Nobody with sound mind said it. That's kind of the point here.
Post by Douglas Lang
Post by Mr. N
Post by Douglas Lang
but his entire documentry basically states Bush set up this mass
conspiracy
Post by Douglas Lang
with his saudi friends in order to milk Iraqs oil fields and stroke the
petroleum companies.
Have you seen the film? How do you know it says this?
Michael Moore said so at the Canes film festival. He siad the film shows how
much of a idiot bush is and his conpiracy with his saudi friends to suck the
world dry of oil.
There IS a conspiracy, that doesn't mean that Bush orchestrated it. An no -
Moore said no such thing. Feel free to provide a cite.
Post by Douglas Lang
Why would the Saudis want the USA to start buying Saudi Oil?
WHAT?
Post by Douglas Lang
According to Michael Moores statements
What "statements"? Cite, please.
Post by Douglas Lang
Infact Moore said we have all been duped by Bush at the Caanes film
festival.
We were - he told us there were WMD's. He told us Saddam Hussein was a
danger to the safety and security of the United States. We were duped.
Post by Douglas Lang
In fact Moore accused Bush of "stealing the '00 election
He did.
Post by Douglas Lang
overlooking terrorism warnings before September 11
He did.
Post by Douglas Lang
and fanning fears of more attacks to secure Americans' support for the
Iraq war."

He has. All those are true statements. I'm still unclear as to why he
deserves to "rot in hell forever" along with the French for making them, and
the person who said that hasn't answered that question.
Post by Douglas Lang
Here is how Michael Moore takes advantage of a United States soldiers mom in
the film.... Absoloutely sick... shows the opportunist this guy really is.
What do you mean "takes advantage"?

Explain.
Post by Douglas Lang
"Moore talks with resident Lila Lipscomb during her daily routine, hanging
an American flag in front of her house. He returns later as Lipscomb
heart-wrenchingly reads the final letter from her son, Michael Pedersen,
killed in action in Iraq.
And telling this mother's story "took advantage" of her how?
Post by Douglas Lang
Lipscomb stares at the White House and says, "I finally have a place to put
all my pain and anger." "
You're damn right. We all do. The place is the Bush White House.

And? Still looking for a reason that Michael Moore and the French deserve
to "rot in hell forever".
Post by Douglas Lang
Do you even know what the word "socialist" means?
Yes I know what the word socialist means.
Do you? Here's a test:

Define the word 'socialist' -
Post by Douglas Lang
Its the main battery of you Anti-Bush guys.
Ah - so you believe that a "socialist" is someone who does not like George
W. Bush? Is that all it takes?
Post by Douglas Lang
You idiots
What "idiots"?
Post by Douglas Lang
have been using any possible contreversey you can to push your socialist
mission in America.

I have a "socialist mission"? Do tell. What is my "socialist mission"? It
might be helpful for you to go back and define the word "socialist" first.
So far your contention that a "socialist" is someone who opposes George W.
Bush. While there may in fact be Socialists who oppose George W. Bush, in
reality the vast majority of people who oppose George W. Bush are not
Socialists, so either your lying, uninformed, or just stupid. I'm banking
on some combination of all three.
Post by Douglas Lang
I am not even going to answer your "he is stupid" statement.
You're absolutely right. It's so obvious it doesn't merit any debate. The
man IS stupid.
Post by Douglas Lang
Personally I am not the biggest fan of Bush.
I guess that makes you a "socialist" then, huh?
Post by Douglas Lang
I wish we could have another Republican in there.
You won't get one for a long, long time unless it's one that's worked hard
to distance himself or herself from Bush.
Post by Douglas Lang
However stupid people dont buy a baseball team,
You don't have to be smart to buy a baseball team - just rich. Bush has
fucked up more businesses in his lifetime than most people will ever work at
.
Post by Douglas Lang
Stupid people dont go to Yale.
LOL. You'd better do your research on this one before a flood of folks
makes you look stupid like Bush (probably too late for that). Bush BOUGHT
his way into Yale, had grades that would not have otherwise qualfied him for
entry, and finished near the bottom of his class.
Post by Douglas Lang
Stupid people dont become President.
Yes they do. He did.
Post by Douglas Lang
It just doesnt happen.
Make sure you stomp your little feet and stick out your lower lip when you
say this. Preferably over and over again.
Post by Douglas Lang
You are just upset that I prove the fact that you will use anything to
tarnish his image

No, I won't. I don't need to. Bush tarnishes his own image. People like
you help.
Post by Douglas Lang
for the sake of pushing your psycho socialist agenda here in the states.
I eagerly look forward to your post detailing what exactly my "psycho
socialist agenda" is, or even if you really know what the word "socialist"
means. Unfortunately my experience with right-wing morons like you is that
when directly confronted to defend your idiotic claims, you go running like
pussies for the hills like the cowards that you are.

I'm guessing that's what you'll do rather than provide this "socialist
agenda" you keep talking about, or even a definition of "socialist".

Let's see.
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-Mr. N
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The Bush administration is a national disgrace.
Douglas Lang
2004-05-24 06:37:17 UTC
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Post by Douglas Lang
Post by Mr. N
That's what it takes to "rot in hell", isn't it?
Who with sound mind said its a mortal sin?
Nobody with sound mind said it. That's kind of the point here.
Exactly and you can always expect a fool to answer back.. LOL!
Post by Mr. N
There IS a conspiracy, that doesn't mean that Bush orchestrated it. An no -
Moore said no such thing. Feel free to provide a cite.
Hate to burst your bubble... but it is just a conspiracy theory.
Post by Mr. N
Post by Douglas Lang
Why would the Saudis want the USA to start buying Saudi Oil?
WHAT?
Sorry meant Iraqi oil...
Post by Mr. N
Post by Douglas Lang
According to Michael Moores statements
What "statements"? Cite, please.
Post by Douglas Lang
Infact Moore said we have all been duped by Bush at the Caanes film
festival.
We were - he told us there were WMD's. He told us Saddam Hussein was a
danger to the safety and security of the United States. We were duped.
So a stupid man duped you? Your stories are conflicting now. I am just going
to stop here since I just showed these series of news groups what an idiot
you are... You just contradicted your stories...
Post by Mr. N
Post by Douglas Lang
In fact Moore accused Bush of "stealing the '00 election
He did.
Post by Douglas Lang
overlooking terrorism warnings before September 11
He did.
Post by Douglas Lang
and fanning fears of more attacks to secure Americans' support for the
Iraq war."
He has. All those are true statements. I'm still unclear as to why he
deserves to "rot in hell forever" along with the French for making them, and
the person who said that hasn't answered that question.
Post by Douglas Lang
Here is how Michael Moore takes advantage of a United States soldiers
mom
Post by Mr. N
in
Post by Douglas Lang
the film.... Absoloutely sick... shows the opportunist this guy really is.
What do you mean "takes advantage"?
Explain.
Post by Douglas Lang
"Moore talks with resident Lila Lipscomb during her daily routine, hanging
an American flag in front of her house. He returns later as Lipscomb
heart-wrenchingly reads the final letter from her son, Michael Pedersen,
killed in action in Iraq.
And telling this mother's story "took advantage" of her how?
Post by Douglas Lang
Lipscomb stares at the White House and says, "I finally have a place to
put
Post by Douglas Lang
all my pain and anger." "
You're damn right. We all do. The place is the Bush White House.
And? Still looking for a reason that Michael Moore and the French deserve
to "rot in hell forever".
Post by Douglas Lang
Do you even know what the word "socialist" means?
Yes I know what the word socialist means.
Define the word 'socialist' -
Post by Douglas Lang
Its the main battery of you Anti-Bush guys.
Ah - so you believe that a "socialist" is someone who does not like George
W. Bush? Is that all it takes?
Post by Douglas Lang
You idiots
What "idiots"?
Post by Douglas Lang
have been using any possible contreversey you can to push your socialist
mission in America.
I have a "socialist mission"? Do tell. What is my "socialist mission"?
It
Post by Mr. N
might be helpful for you to go back and define the word "socialist" first.
So far your contention that a "socialist" is someone who opposes George W.
Bush. While there may in fact be Socialists who oppose George W. Bush, in
reality the vast majority of people who oppose George W. Bush are not
Socialists, so either your lying, uninformed, or just stupid. I'm banking
on some combination of all three.
Post by Douglas Lang
I am not even going to answer your "he is stupid" statement.
You're absolutely right. It's so obvious it doesn't merit any debate.
The
Post by Mr. N
man IS stupid.
Post by Douglas Lang
Personally I am not the biggest fan of Bush.
I guess that makes you a "socialist" then, huh?
Post by Douglas Lang
I wish we could have another Republican in there.
You won't get one for a long, long time unless it's one that's worked hard
to distance himself or herself from Bush.
Post by Douglas Lang
However stupid people dont buy a baseball team,
You don't have to be smart to buy a baseball team - just rich. Bush has
fucked up more businesses in his lifetime than most people will ever work at
.
Post by Douglas Lang
Stupid people dont go to Yale.
LOL. You'd better do your research on this one before a flood of folks
makes you look stupid like Bush (probably too late for that). Bush BOUGHT
his way into Yale, had grades that would not have otherwise qualfied him for
entry, and finished near the bottom of his class.
Post by Douglas Lang
Stupid people dont become President.
Yes they do. He did.
Post by Douglas Lang
It just doesnt happen.
Make sure you stomp your little feet and stick out your lower lip when you
say this. Preferably over and over again.
Post by Douglas Lang
You are just upset that I prove the fact that you will use anything to
tarnish his image
No, I won't. I don't need to. Bush tarnishes his own image. People like
you help.
Post by Douglas Lang
for the sake of pushing your psycho socialist agenda here in the states.
I eagerly look forward to your post detailing what exactly my "psycho
socialist agenda" is, or even if you really know what the word "socialist"
means. Unfortunately my experience with right-wing morons like you is that
when directly confronted to defend your idiotic claims, you go running like
pussies for the hills like the cowards that you are.
I'm guessing that's what you'll do rather than provide this "socialist
agenda" you keep talking about, or even a definition of "socialist".
Let's see.
--
-Mr. N
-------------------------------------------
The Bush administration is a national disgrace.
Mr. N
2004-05-24 14:40:59 UTC
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Post by Douglas Lang
Post by Mr. N
Post by Douglas Lang
Who with sound mind said its a mortal sin?
Nobody with sound mind said it. That's kind of the point here.
Exactly and you can always expect a fool to answer back.. LOL!
And yet here YOU are - another fool chiming in when the first fool was too
shy to answer back.
Post by Douglas Lang
Post by Mr. N
There IS a conspiracy, that doesn't mean that Bush orchestrated it. An
no -
Post by Mr. N
Moore said no such thing. Feel free to provide a cite.
Hate to burst your bubble... but it is just a conspiracy theory.
A well-supported one. There are such a thing as conpiracies that actually
exist, and Bush's relationship with and support of the fascist dictatorship
of Saudi Arabia is well-documented.
Post by Douglas Lang
Post by Mr. N
Post by Douglas Lang
Why would the Saudis want the USA to start buying Saudi Oil?
WHAT?
Sorry meant Iraqi oil...
They benefit from that, too. A strong independent Iraq that is part of OPEC
can be used to increase their stronghold over the resource, and over
pricing.
Post by Douglas Lang
Post by Mr. N
What "statements"? Cite, please.
(I notice you fail to answer this question)
Post by Douglas Lang
Post by Mr. N
What do you mean "takes advantage"?
Explain.
(I notice you fail to answer this question)
Post by Douglas Lang
Post by Mr. N
And telling this mother's story "took advantage" of her how?
(and this one)
Post by Douglas Lang
Post by Mr. N
Post by Douglas Lang
Do you even know what the word "socialist" means?
(and this one)
Post by Douglas Lang
Post by Mr. N
Define the word 'socialist' -
Still waiting.

Fool.
--
-Mr. N
-------------------------------------------
The Bush administration is a national disgrace.
Bear
2004-05-24 09:34:25 UTC
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Post by Douglas Lang
Post by Mr. N
Post by Douglas Lang
Here are the facts; Bush stumbles on a few words so lets call him stupid
and
Post by Douglas Lang
use this to further our socialist mission.
No, let's call him stupid because he's stupid. What "socialist mission"
are
Post by Mr. N
you talking about? Do you even know what the word "socialist" means?
Yes I know what the word socialist means. Its the main battery of you
Anti-Bush guys. You idiots have been using any possible contreversey you can
to push your socialist mission in America.
So, anybody who has a problem with Dubya is a socialist??

That may be the single most stupid fucking thing I've ever heard you
say...
JustForFun
2004-05-24 16:32:16 UTC
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Post by Bear
Post by Douglas Lang
Post by Mr. N
Post by Douglas Lang
Here are the facts; Bush stumbles on a few words so lets call him stupid
and
Post by Douglas Lang
use this to further our socialist mission.
No, let's call him stupid because he's stupid. What "socialist mission"
are
Post by Mr. N
you talking about? Do you even know what the word "socialist" means?
Yes I know what the word socialist means. Its the main battery of you
Anti-Bush guys. You idiots have been using any possible contreversey you can
to push your socialist mission in America.
So, anybody who has a problem with Dubya is a socialist??
That may be the single most stupid fucking thing I've ever heard you
say...
Oh lord no....he's said MUCH more stupid things ;-)

"Rodents falling from the sky..."
Bear
2004-05-24 20:32:09 UTC
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Post by JustForFun
Post by Bear
Post by Douglas Lang
Yes I know what the word socialist means. Its the main battery of you
Anti-Bush guys. You idiots have been using any possible contreversey you can
to push your socialist mission in America.
So, anybody who has a problem with Dubya is a socialist??
That may be the single most stupid fucking thing I've ever heard you
say...
Oh lord no....he's said MUCH more stupid things ;-)
"Rodents falling from the sky..."
Maybe I need to catch up here-- are you saying Doug is Austin??

If so, you're right, that was not the single most stupid fucking thing I
ever heard him say... in fact, it's just about an average stupid fucking
thing for good ol' Austin...

However, shaken as I am to learn who Doug is, at least I have the
comfort of knowing the jackass likes YOUR guy in the next election... I
do not crave the support of idiots, even if they are a significant
demographic in the electorate...
JustForFun
2004-05-24 21:00:15 UTC
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Post by Bear
Post by JustForFun
Post by Bear
Post by Douglas Lang
Yes I know what the word socialist means. Its the main battery of you
Anti-Bush guys. You idiots have been using any possible contreversey you can
to push your socialist mission in America.
So, anybody who has a problem with Dubya is a socialist??
That may be the single most stupid fucking thing I've ever heard you
say...
Oh lord no....he's said MUCH more stupid things ;-)
"Rodents falling from the sky..."
Maybe I need to catch up here-- are you saying Doug is Austin??
You didn't know that? Shit man, it was obvious from the first time
"Doug " posted in here.
Post by Bear
If so, you're right, that was not the single most stupid fucking thing I
ever heard him say... in fact, it's just about an average stupid fucking
thing for good ol' Austin...
Lol. Nah, it was WAY above his typical stupid shit...I think he
finally got his meds regulated.
Post by Bear
However, shaken as I am to learn who Doug is, at least I have the
comfort of knowing the jackass likes YOUR guy in the next election... I
do not crave the support of idiots, even if they are a significant
demographic in the electorate...
Hey, man. I'll take Austin over Frod....;-)
Bear
2004-05-24 21:14:56 UTC
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Post by JustForFun
Post by Bear
However, shaken as I am to learn who Doug is, at least I have the
comfort of knowing the jackass likes YOUR guy in the next election... I
do not crave the support of idiots, even if they are a significant
demographic in the electorate...
Hey, man. I'll take Austin over Frod....;-)
Now that hurt...
Bear
2004-05-23 20:02:22 UTC
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Post by Douglas Lang
What I do not get about Michael Moore is his irony. He says Bush is dumb ,
but his entire documentry basically states Bush set up this mass conspiracy
with his saudi friends in order to milk Iraqs oil fields and stroke the
petroleum companies. Which is it? He is dumb? or smart enough to conspire to
take the worlds most valuable resource? LOL..
Or the willing dupe of smart men with their own, selfish agenda... as I
like to say "George Dubya Bush, a wholly owned subsidiary of Texaco"...
Post by Douglas Lang
Here are the facts; Bush stumbles on a few words so lets call him stupid and
use this to further our socialist mission.
Dubya's so fucking stupid he couldn't pour piss out of a boot if the
instructions were printed on the heel...
Toby Drake
2004-05-23 20:12:06 UTC
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Post by Bear
Dubya's so fucking stupid he couldn't pour piss out of a boot if the
instructions were printed on the heel...
With a Yale undergraduate degree and a Harvard MBA, he probably knows better
than to piss in a boot.

"Pissing in a boot" is an advanced degree at Texas A$M however.

Toby
Enid, OK
Bear
2004-05-23 20:42:45 UTC
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Post by Toby Drake
Post by Bear
Dubya's so fucking stupid he couldn't pour piss out of a boot if the
instructions were printed on the heel...
With a Yale undergraduate degree and a Harvard MBA, he probably knows better
than to piss in a boot.
Obviously, those two degrees were a gift... nobody as stupid as Dubya
has repeatedly proven himself to be could possibly EARN an Ivy League
degree... you are aware of the number of businesses this "Ivy Leaguer"
was GIVEN, and still ran into the ground, aren't you??
Post by Toby Drake
"Pissing in a boot" is an advanced degree at Texas A$M however.
Yeah, I'd heard that...

Trying to piss off a Horns fan by making Aggie jokes probably won't
work, pal... LOL...
Toby Drake
2004-05-23 21:41:27 UTC
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Post by Bear
Post by Toby Drake
Post by Bear
Dubya's so fucking stupid he couldn't pour piss out of a boot if the
instructions were printed on the heel...
With a Yale undergraduate degree and a Harvard MBA, he probably knows better
than to piss in a boot.
Obviously, those two degrees were a gift... nobody as stupid as Dubya
has repeatedly proven himself to be could possibly EARN an Ivy League
degree... you are aware of the number of businesses this "Ivy Leaguer"
was GIVEN, and still ran into the ground, aren't you??
Post by Toby Drake
"Pissing in a boot" is an advanced degree at Texas A$M however.
Yeah, I'd heard that...
Trying to piss off a Horns fan by making Aggie jokes probably won't
work, pal... LOL...
How would I know you're a Horns fan?

So since you're a true Horns fan, why have the Longhorns been so highly
rated, but yet, achieved so little over the last few years? I'm always
(never) surprised when Campbell's Football magazine comes out and I have to
shake the drool off of the pages that are fawning over the Longhorns
recruiting class, and, then, sure enough, when they have to play a team with
any talent whatsoever, they lose, and the "aww shucks" coach pulls out his
hanky and cries and takes all the blame. At least they used to have Daddy's
Boy, Chris Simms to blame. If that wasn't the most overrated quarterback in
the history college football, I don't know who was.

How do you think they'll do this year? I'll go out on a limb and say they'll
lose 4 games, but beat the hapless goat herders from up the road.

By the way, Bush's degrees weren't gifts. He had to go to classes, he had to
take tests, he got grades, he finished a degree program, he got a degree, he
was accepted into MBA school at Harvard (and bailed out of the national
guard), he went to classes, he took tests, wrote papers, got grades, and
finished with an MBA. I don't care who you are, you still have to do work to
get out of Yale and Harvard. And, if there was some huge gifting program for
Bush, it would be all over the news. It's not.

I'm not a Bush apologist, because he's managed to dig a big hole, that
continues to get deeper, but, you know, he's not that stupid and he has, and
has had, plenty of help being stupid by plenty of people that most people
consider to be pretty intelligent.

Another part of Bush's schtick is to talk like he's from the oil patch. He
uses it to great effectiveness, but, it sure makes him sound like an
illiterate moron, I'll agree. If you don't think he's affecting his manner
of speech for the WALMART MOMS and the NASCAR DADS, listen to his dad or his
brother and ask yourself why they both have accents that sound as if they
just stepped off the Yacht at Kennebunkport.

Anyway, good luck with that Horns thing.

Toby
Enid, OK
Bear
2004-05-24 09:31:29 UTC
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Post by Toby Drake
Post by Bear
Post by Toby Drake
"Pissing in a boot" is an advanced degree at Texas A$M however.
Yeah, I'd heard that...
Trying to piss off a Horns fan by making Aggie jokes probably won't
work, pal... LOL...
How would I know you're a Horns fan?
You couldn't, and I wasn't trying to be insulting... I was just telling
you that I really do appreciate a good Aggies joke... the tipoff that I
was being lighthearted lies in how I called you "pal"... I have other
nicknames for when I'm trying to be insulting...
Post by Toby Drake
So since you're a true Horns fan, why have the Longhorns been so highly
rated, but yet, achieved so little over the last few years?
Yeah, I'm SOOOO ashamed-- over the last couple-three years, the Horns
have competed for national championships in football, basketball AND
baseball... last I checked, they're number one in the nation in baseball
these days...

That's the problem with you Sooners, you think there's only one sport...

But to answer your question, IMO the reason the football Horns have
underachieved has been lousy coaching on the part of the position
coaches...
Post by Toby Drake
How do you think they'll do this year? I'll go out on a limb and say they'll
lose 4 games, but beat the hapless goat herders from up the road.
They'll compete for the conference championship again... a bowl bid is
quite likely, again...

This year should be the year that Cedric Benson makes a run for the
Heisman, because I look for the Horns to emphasize the run even more
than they did last year...
Post by Toby Drake
By the way, Bush's degrees weren't gifts.
Of course they were, the man's a card-carrying idiot... he's fucked up
every business he's ever touched, this is hardly typical for an MBA from
an Ivy League school...

Then again, I have recently made the acquaintance of a troll who claims
he has a Yale background, name of Snorky... he's dumber than a box of
rocks too, so perhaps I overestimate the intelligence required to get
yourself an education at those institutions...

Kinda makes me glad I filed those scholarship offers in the circular
file to the left of my desk... I WAS briefly tempted by the scholarship
offer from Johns Hopkins, though... ultimately, I chose other options...
SNORKY
2004-05-25 00:14:42 UTC
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Post by Bear
Then again, I have recently made the acquaintance of a troll who claims
he has a Yale background, name of Snorky... he's dumber than a box of
rocks too, so perhaps I overestimate the intelligence required to get
yourself an education at those institutions...
I was a Yale DIVINITY major. Mind you, I took a senior seminar in Voo
Doo, and if you cross the line with me one more time I'll put an
all-time mojo on you.



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Guarantee: Catch ole Snork in an Ad Hominem and he
will leave RSFC forever*!

NOTE: Applies only to members/posters of RSFC and
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*"Forever" cannot exceed 12/31/2004.

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StephenJ 04/19/2004
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SNORKY
2004-05-25 02:06:52 UTC
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(well, maybe to Bill Clinton, lol).


"Lawyer Claims Super Bowl Halftime Falsely Advertised, Sues"


http://www.channeloklahoma.com/entertainment/3339056/detail.html


http://tinyurl.com/2rnjs



--

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Guarantee: Catch ole Snork in an Ad Hominem and he
will leave RSFC forever*!

NOTE: Applies only to members/posters of RSFC and
not to idiot celebrities/politicians such as Bill
Clinton, Al Gore, etc.

*"Forever" cannot exceed 12/31/2004.

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StephenJ 04/19/2004
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marika5000
2004-05-25 03:07:39 UTC
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Post by SNORKY
(well, maybe to Bill Clinton, lol).
"Lawyer Claims Super Bowl Halftime Falsely Advertised, Sues"
http://www.channeloklahoma.com/entertainment/3339056/detail.html
http://tinyurl.com/2rnjs
-
How odd.
Is he saying the advertising he saw on TV promised him marching bands?

Did he pay for a ticket? Because the commercials on tv have nothing to
do with what was advertised to be shown at the stadium.

Conversely, if he didn't pay for pay per view or anything like that,
how can he have a case for false advertising. Doesn't false advertising
presume there was a purchase made?

I downloaded the whole thing but the story doesn't make it totally clear
but the guy sounds like a nut. I remember hearing of other similar
lawsuits back in February. I wonder if anyone ever prevailed

mk5000

"When I was quite young I wanted to be a reporter and I couldn't quite
manage to break into that, but I still have strands of that. I have to
report life as I see it. I am a witness. ...You may giggle, but I
consider myself to be a serious pop artist, so it means the world to
me."---Morrissey
SNORKY
2004-05-25 23:28:25 UTC
Permalink
On Mon, 24 May 2004 23:07:39 -0400, marika5000
Post by marika5000
Post by SNORKY
(well, maybe to Bill Clinton, lol).
"Lawyer Claims Super Bowl Halftime Falsely Advertised, Sues"
http://www.channeloklahoma.com/entertainment/3339056/detail.html
http://tinyurl.com/2rnjs
-
How odd.
Is he saying the advertising he saw on TV promised him marching bands?
Did he pay for a ticket? Because the commercials on tv have nothing to
do with what was advertised to be shown at the stadium.
Conversely, if he didn't pay for pay per view or anything like that,
how can he have a case for false advertising. Doesn't false advertising
presume there was a purchase made?
I downloaded the whole thing but the story doesn't make it totally clear
but the guy sounds like a nut. I remember hearing of other similar
lawsuits back in February. I wonder if anyone ever prevailed
mk5000
"When I was quite young I wanted to be a reporter and I couldn't quite
manage to break into that, but I still have strands of that. I have to
report life as I see it. I am a witness. ...You may giggle, but I
consider myself to be a serious pop artist, so it means the world to
me."---Morrissey
Yeah, there was no contract, so I don't see that he has a case. He
hasn't got a hoot to stand on, lol.


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Guarantee: Catch ole Snork in an Ad Hominem and he
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Bear
2004-05-25 03:56:02 UTC
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Post by SNORKY
Post by Bear
Then again, I have recently made the acquaintance of a troll who claims
he has a Yale background, name of Snorky... he's dumber than a box of
rocks too, so perhaps I overestimate the intelligence required to get
yourself an education at those institutions...
I was a Yale DIVINITY major.
Mr. "That Wasn't Torture, That Was Teasing" was looking to serve God??

ROTFLMAO...
Post by SNORKY
Mind you, I took a senior seminar in Voo
Doo, and if you cross the line with me one more time I'll put an
all-time mojo on you.
Damn, that was ALMOST funny, Snork... be very careful, if you keep
showing signs of a sense of humor, eventually they're not gonna let you
be a good little right winger any more...

Sorry, dildo, NOBODY believes your claims of an Ivy League education...
you simply write too poorly to have had that experience... it's my
understanding that an ability to write is just about crucial for
somebody contemplating a career in the ministry... they have to write
these speeches every week, you know...

You and God should have a long talk about your contemptible views on the
use of torture... you need to worry about getting right with him before
you even waste a second worrying about trying to get over on your
friendly local Bear...
sAnToLiNa
2004-05-25 04:55:09 UTC
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Post by Bear
Sorry, dildo, NOBODY believes your claims of an Ivy League education...
you simply write too poorly to have had that experience
You have a point. I mean, what kind of abysmal fucktard, who is a failure
in business, a failure in government, a failure at driving an automobile
sober, a failure at completing National Guard service, a failure at
swallowing food and not aspirating at the same time, a failure at creating
amity in the world from a position of unprecendented sympathy, and a failure
at negotiating the Himalayan precipices of Crawford, Texas on his bicycle,
could possibly be admitted to Yale?
Bear
2004-05-25 05:05:12 UTC
Permalink
Post by sAnToLiNa
Post by Bear
Sorry, dildo, NOBODY believes your claims of an Ivy League education...
you simply write too poorly to have had that experience
You have a point. I mean, what kind of abysmal fucktard, who is a failure
in business, a failure in government, a failure at driving an automobile
sober, a failure at completing National Guard service, a failure at
swallowing food and not aspirating at the same time, a failure at creating
amity in the world from a position of unprecendented sympathy, and a failure
at negotiating the Himalayan precipices of Crawford, Texas on his bicycle,
could possibly be admitted to Yale?
An amusing bit of sarcasm, but even Dubya isn't as profoundly stupid as
Snorky...
Spike
2004-05-25 13:29:29 UTC
Permalink
Post by sAnToLiNa
Post by Bear
Sorry, dildo, NOBODY believes your claims of an Ivy League education...
you simply write too poorly to have had that experience
You have a point. I mean, what kind of abysmal fucktard, who is a failure
in business,
How many millions have you made in the business world?
Post by sAnToLiNa
a failure in government,
Ever been elected to any public office?
Post by sAnToLiNa
a failure at driving an automobile sober,
I'm sure he's done it before.
Post by sAnToLiNa
a failure at completing National Guard service,
That's incorrect. He got an honorable discharge.
Post by sAnToLiNa
a failure at swallowing food and not aspirating at the same time,
No adult human can swallow food and aspirate at the same time. Human
babies can, though.
Post by sAnToLiNa
a failure at creating amity in the world from a position of unprecendented sympathy,
Not his job.
Post by sAnToLiNa
and a failure
at negotiating the Himalayan precipices of Crawford, Texas on his bicycle,
could possibly be admitted to Yale?
Their standards are not as high as yours, apparently. Of course your
standards are unattainable. Especially that swallowing food and not
aspirating at the same time thing.
Exhibitionist
2004-05-26 05:51:45 UTC
Permalink
Post by Spike
Post by sAnToLiNa
Post by Bear
Sorry, dildo, NOBODY believes your claims of an Ivy League education...
you simply write too poorly to have had that experience
You have a point. I mean, what kind of abysmal fucktard, who is a failure
in business,
How many millions have you made in the business world?
Post by sAnToLiNa
a failure in government,
Ever been elected to any public office?
Post by sAnToLiNa
a failure at driving an automobile sober,
I'm sure he's done it before.
Post by sAnToLiNa
a failure at completing National Guard service,
That's incorrect. He got an honorable discharge.
Post by sAnToLiNa
a failure at swallowing food and not aspirating at the same time,
No adult human can swallow food and aspirate at the same time. Human
babies can, though.
Post by sAnToLiNa
a failure at creating amity in the world from a position of unprecendented sympathy,
Not his job.
Post by sAnToLiNa
and a failure
at negotiating the Himalayan precipices of Crawford, Texas on his bicycle,
could possibly be admitted to Yale?
Their standards are not as high as yours, apparently. Of course your
standards are unattainable. Especially that swallowing food and not
aspirating at the same time thing.
I don't think you are being fair. Asking a Lib to make sense is not
fair.
SNORKY
2004-05-25 23:29:26 UTC
Permalink
Post by Bear
Post by SNORKY
Post by Bear
Then again, I have recently made the acquaintance of a troll who claims
he has a Yale background, name of Snorky... he's dumber than a box of
rocks too, so perhaps I overestimate the intelligence required to get
yourself an education at those institutions...
I was a Yale DIVINITY major.
Mr. "That Wasn't Torture, That Was Teasing" was looking to serve God??
ROTFLMAO...
Post by SNORKY
Mind you, I took a senior seminar in Voo
Doo, and if you cross the line with me one more time I'll put an
all-time mojo on you.
Damn, that was ALMOST funny, Snork... be very careful, if you keep
showing signs of a sense of humor, eventually they're not gonna let you
be a good little right winger any more...
Sorry, dildo, NOBODY believes your claims of an Ivy League education...
you simply write too poorly to have had that experience... it's my
understanding that an ability to write is just about crucial for
somebody contemplating a career in the ministry... they have to write
these speeches every week, you know...
You and God should have a long talk about your contemptible views on the
use of torture... you need to worry about getting right with him before
you even waste a second worrying about trying to get over on your
friendly local Bear...
You would have civilians killed rather than tickle s prisoner, and yet
you call me "contemptamable".


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Guarantee: Catch ole Snork in an Ad Hominem and he
will leave RSFC forever*!

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not to idiot celebrities/politicians such as Bill
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--------------------------------------------------------
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"ccr"<***@....> 03/30/2004,04/10/2004
StephenJ 04/19/2004
Mr.N<***@hotmail.com> 05/01/2004
***@aol.comgetbush 05/04/2004
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Bear
2004-05-26 08:01:23 UTC
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Post by SNORKY
Post by Bear
You and God should have a long talk about your contemptible views on the
use of torture... you need to worry about getting right with him before
you even waste a second worrying about trying to get over on your
friendly local Bear...
You would have civilians killed rather than tickle s prisoner,
Liar... you know that God has a problem with liars, don't you?? He
also takes a rather dim view of those who sanction torture...

Yeah, you're gonna have a LOT to answer for, come Judgement Day... not
to worry, I'll save a place for you in Hell...
SNORKY
2004-05-26 23:47:35 UTC
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Post by Bear
Post by SNORKY
Post by Bear
You and God should have a long talk about your contemptible views on the
use of torture... you need to worry about getting right with him before
you even waste a second worrying about trying to get over on your
friendly local Bear...
You would have civilians killed rather than tickle s prisoner,
Liar... you know that God has a problem with liars, don't you?? He
also takes a rather dim view of those who sanction torture...
Then why did he allow his only forgotten son to be crucified?

Why did he drownd every man, woman, and child TO DEATH except the
lucky ducks in Noah's boat?
Post by Bear
Yeah, you're gonna have a LOT to answer for, come Judgement Day... not
to worry, I'll save a place for you in Hell...
Look at all the ugly names you have called me, and I haven't called
you one thing. And you are making shit up.

--

Snorky's 2004 New Year's Resolution: No Ad Hominems!

Guarantee: Catch ole Snork in an Ad Hominem and he
will leave RSFC forever*!

NOTE: Applies only to members/posters of RSFC and
not to idiot celebrities/politicians such as Bill
Clinton, Al Gore, etc.

*"Forever" cannot exceed 12/31/2004.

Debate Kill List:
--------------------------------------------------------
Dennis <drjudsjr> 12/30/2003
Jeffrey Davis 12/31/2003
VicXnews 01/20/2004
gribbee <***@...> 02/29/2004
"ccr"<***@....> 03/30/2004,04/10/2004
StephenJ 04/19/2004
Mr.N<***@hotmail.com> 05/01/2004
***@aol.comgetbush 05/04/2004
Zaphod Beeblebrox 05/14/2004
***@shentel.net (Bear) 05/15/2004
David Galehouse<***@cinci.rr.com> 05/15/2004
JustForFun <***@bellsouth.net> 05/16/2004
David Galehouse
2004-05-27 02:36:48 UTC
Permalink
Post by SNORKY
Post by Bear
Post by SNORKY
Post by Bear
You and God should have a long talk about your contemptible views on the
use of torture... you need to worry about getting right with him before
you even waste a second worrying about trying to get over on your
friendly local Bear...
You would have civilians killed rather than tickle s prisoner,
Liar... you know that God has a problem with liars, don't you?? He
also takes a rather dim view of those who sanction torture...
Then why did he allow his only forgotten son to be crucified?
Why did he drownd every man, woman, and child TO DEATH except the
lucky ducks in Noah's boat?
Post by Bear
Yeah, you're gonna have a LOT to answer for, come Judgement Day... not
to worry, I'll save a place for you in Hell...
Look at all the ugly names you have called me, and I haven't called
you one thing. And you are making shit up.
Yeah, but you went to Yale! LOL!
Bear
2004-05-27 07:15:10 UTC
Permalink
Post by SNORKY
Post by Bear
Liar... you know that God has a problem with liars, don't you?? He
also takes a rather dim view of those who sanction torture...
Then why did he allow his only forgotten son to be crucified?
"Forgotten son"?? From an alleged divinity student??

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...
Post by SNORKY
Look at all the ugly names you have called me, and I haven't called
you one thing.
That's because I'm not a lying sack of shit, but you are...
Post by SNORKY
And you are making shit up.
Said the troll who STILL hasn't shared with us the inside story he
supposedly has on Al Gore's son... sure sounds like you're the one
makin' shit up...
Clockwork Orange
2004-05-27 12:54:48 UTC
Permalink
Yer mother was a hamster and yer father smelt of elderberries,
Post by Bear
Post by SNORKY
Post by Bear
Liar... you know that God has a problem with liars, don't
you?? He also takes a rather dim view of those who sanction
torture...
Then why did he allow his only forgotten son to be crucified?
"Forgotten son"?? From an alleged divinity student??
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...
Post by SNORKY
Look at all the ugly names you have called me, and I haven't
called you one thing.
That's because I'm not a lying sack of shit, but you are...
Post by SNORKY
And you are making shit up.
Said the troll who STILL hasn't shared with us the inside story
he supposedly has on Al Gore's son... sure sounds like you're
the one makin' shit up...
So you recognize it's a troll, and then sit there and swap cheezy
barbs with it. Which one of you is the dumbass in this equation?
--
Cheers,
--Jeff

"You know Foghorn Leghorn wouldn't pee in no jar!"
--Mojo Nixon
Bear
2004-05-27 14:23:02 UTC
Permalink
Post by Clockwork Orange
Post by Bear
Post by SNORKY
And you are making shit up.
Said the troll who STILL hasn't shared with us the inside story
he supposedly has on Al Gore's son... sure sounds like you're
the one makin' shit up...
So you recognize it's a troll, and then sit there and swap cheezy
barbs with it.
Something I've been doing for six years now, to more trolls than you
could possibly imagine... most of 'em are long gone, some of those who
are still hangin' around make it a point to stay out of my line of
fire...

I am, in all immodesty, the Zen Master of troll baiting... I make 'em
nuts... my favorites are the ones who fancy themselves towering
intellects, because of course anybody who thinks trolling newsgroups is
amusing is by definition not the sharpest knife in the drawer...

The simple truth is, there isn't but one way to beat a true troll...
ignoring them doesn't work, they just keep on trolling away until they
provoke a reaction from somebody, anybody... nope, the only way to beat
a troll is to get in his face and stay in his face until he starts
seeing you in his sleep... I mean, just be as tiring and annoying and
tenacious as a pit bull with a fresh bone... eventually, you'll wear
even the most dedicated troll down... I had one that it took me the best
part of five years to wear out, and I had lots and lots of help in the
effort, but he's gone now, too...

Basically, trolls troll because it's fun for them... why it's fun for
them, I couldn't possibly tell you, it seems like an uncommonly stupid
way to amuse yourself, but that's why they do it... take the fun away,
and they seem to lose interest...

Aside from all that, there's a certain element of FUN in swapping
insults, particularly if you're pretty good at it... having grown up the
son of a golf pro, I'm fairly well versed in the art of pro shop
banter... there are folks in here who seem to get a kick out of it,
too... here being the Cowboys' newsgroup, since I don't have a clue
which of the myriad crossposted newsgroups you're reading this thread
in...

To sum up in as few words as possible, leave me be, son, I'm havin'
fun... if you don't like it, don't read it...
Clockwork Orange
2004-05-27 14:31:24 UTC
Permalink
Yer mother was a hamster and yer father smelt of elderberries,
Post by Bear
Post by Clockwork Orange
Post by Bear
Post by SNORKY
And you are making shit up.
Said the troll who STILL hasn't shared with us the inside
story he supposedly has on Al Gore's son... sure sounds like
you're the one makin' shit up...
So you recognize it's a troll, and then sit there and swap
cheezy barbs with it.
Something I've been doing for six years now, to more trolls than
you could possibly imagine... most of 'em are long gone, some of
those who are still hangin' around make it a point to stay out
of my line of fire...
I am, in all immodesty, the Zen Master of troll baiting... I
make 'em nuts... my favorites are the ones who fancy themselves
towering intellects, because of course anybody who thinks
trolling newsgroups is amusing is by definition not the sharpest
knife in the drawer...
The simple truth is, there isn't but one way to beat a true
troll... ignoring them doesn't work, they just keep on trolling
away until they provoke a reaction from somebody, anybody...
nope, the only way to beat a troll is to get in his face and
stay in his face until he starts seeing you in his sleep... I
mean, just be as tiring and annoying and tenacious as a pit bull
with a fresh bone... eventually, you'll wear even the most
dedicated troll down... I had one that it took me the best part
of five years to wear out, and I had lots and lots of help in
the effort, but he's gone now, too...
Basically, trolls troll because it's fun for them... why it's
fun for them, I couldn't possibly tell you, it seems like an
uncommonly stupid way to amuse yourself, but that's why they do
it... take the fun away, and they seem to lose interest...
Aside from all that, there's a certain element of FUN in
swapping insults, particularly if you're pretty good at it...
having grown up the son of a golf pro, I'm fairly well versed in
the art of pro shop banter... there are folks in here who seem
to get a kick out of it, too... here being the Cowboys'
newsgroup, since I don't have a clue which of the myriad
crossposted newsgroups you're reading this thread in...
To sum up in as few words as possible, leave me be, son, I'm
havin' fun... if you don't like it, don't read it...
Whatever. I give a fuck. I was merely pointing out the irony for
the benefit of and and all assclown noobies to whom it was not
already painfully obvious.

Like you.
--
Cheers,
--Jeff

"You know Foghorn Leghorn wouldn't pee in no jar!"
--Mojo Nixon
SNORKY
2004-05-28 00:14:41 UTC
Permalink
On 27 May 2004 05:54:48 -0700, Clockwork Orange
Post by Clockwork Orange
Yer mother was a hamster and yer father smelt of elderberries,
Post by Bear
Post by SNORKY
Post by Bear
Liar... you know that God has a problem with liars, don't
you?? He also takes a rather dim view of those who sanction
torture...
Then why did he allow his only forgotten son to be crucified?
"Forgotten son"?? From an alleged divinity student??
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...
Post by SNORKY
Look at all the ugly names you have called me, and I haven't
called you one thing.
That's because I'm not a lying sack of shit, but you are...
Post by SNORKY
And you are making shit up.
Said the troll who STILL hasn't shared with us the inside story
he supposedly has on Al Gore's son... sure sounds like you're
the one makin' shit up...
So you recognize it's a troll, and then sit there and swap cheezy
barbs with it. Which one of you is the dumbass in this equation?
Not me, I went to Yale.



--

Snorky's 2004 New Year's Resolution: No Ad Hominems!

Guarantee: Catch ole Snork in an Ad Hominem and he
will leave RSFC forever*!

NOTE: Applies only to members/posters of RSFC and
not to idiot celebrities/politicians such as Bill
Clinton, Al Gore, etc.

*"Forever" cannot exceed 12/31/2004.

Debate Kill List:
--------------------------------------------------------
Dennis <drjudsjr> 12/30/2003
Jeffrey Davis 12/31/2003
VicXnews 01/20/2004
gribbee <***@...> 02/29/2004
"ccr"<***@....> 03/30/2004,04/10/2004
StephenJ 04/19/2004
Mr.N<***@hotmail.com> 05/01/2004
***@aol.comgetbush 05/04/2004
Zaphod Beeblebrox 05/14/2004
***@shentel.net (Bear) 05/15/2004
David Galehouse<***@cinci.rr.com> 05/15/2004
JustForFun <***@bellsouth.net> 05/16/2004

JustForFun
2004-05-27 15:57:59 UTC
Permalink
Post by Bear
Post by SNORKY
Post by Bear
Liar... you know that God has a problem with liars, don't you?? He
also takes a rather dim view of those who sanction torture...
Then why did he allow his only forgotten son to be crucified?
"Forgotten son"?? From an alleged divinity student??
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...
ROFLMAO
Post by Bear
Post by SNORKY
Look at all the ugly names you have called me, and I haven't called
you one thing.
That's because I'm not a lying sack of shit, but you are...
Post by SNORKY
And you are making shit up.
Said the troll who STILL hasn't shared with us the inside story he
supposedly has on Al Gore's son... sure sounds like you're the one
makin' shit up...
Yep. If there WAS any "hidden story" surrouning the Gore clan, I
assure you I'd know all about. That family can't go to the grocery
store without the precise route they took being common knowlege in
these parts...Carthage is still small town U.S.A. to say the least,
everyone knows everything about everyone else. (I don't live in
Carthage, but I can get there in less than 10 minutes from here)
S&C Gilbert
2004-05-27 16:16:13 UTC
Permalink
Hey, JFF ~

What are your thoughts on Bud Adams indicating Eddie won't be back w/ the
Titans this year? Negotiating ploy? Mexican Stand off? I know the Titans are
$17 mill or so over the cap, and Adams is saying that they can't sign their
own draft picks . . .

Do you think Eddie has any gas left?

My thoughts:

George has enough for one more season, though not as a starter - certainly
for playoffs (if the team makes them - not a given, seeing as how they've
lost Volek and McCants (sp?). I don't think losing Jervon was as big a
setback - in fact, I think the Beagles will find they overpaid the man.

As to whether the team owes Eddie one more season - I guess they might; he's
been a gladiator for them over his time with the team . . .

I don't live too far from you, BTW, in Lovely Jack'n Co . . .

Just so folks don't get the wrong idea . . .

HTTR
JustForFun
2004-05-27 18:44:44 UTC
Permalink
On Thu, 27 May 2004 11:16:13 -0500, "S&C Gilbert"
Post by S&C Gilbert
Hey, JFF ~
What are your thoughts on Bud Adams
Bud is an idiot who got lucky because this town was starving for a pro
team and they got real good, real fast after moving here. Jeff Fisher
is a great guy and very engaging...he's also "forced" his players to
be fan "friendly". I give Jeff the credit for the fan support, not
toupee' man. ;-)
Post by S&C Gilbert
indicating Eddie won't be back w/ the
Titans this year? Negotiating ploy?
Nope. I doubt Fisher WANTS him back. Jeff is a VERY conservative
coach, much like Parcells. He was "forced" to let McNair air it out a
LOT more often than he'd like last year. While that worked out o.k.,
it's just not Fishers style. They REALLY got lucky all those young
receivers developed so quickly.
Post by S&C Gilbert
Mexican Stand off?
I think they'd bring Eddie back ONLY if Eddie wants to come
back...I.E. money isn't an issue, and he works cheap. Much like the
Emmitt situation of a year ago, I doubt that happens. Eddiie WILL end
up working cheap, but not in Nashville, and probably not as a starter.
Post by S&C Gilbert
I know the Titans are
$17 mill or so over the cap, and Adams is saying that they can't sign their
own draft picks . . .
I'd be shocked if they brought him back, regardless of the cap
situation. IMO he only made the team last year because he was a fan
favorite in these parts....the fans soured on him last season. If he
can't run AND he can't sell tickets, what good is he?
Post by S&C Gilbert
Do you think Eddie has any gas left?
Nope. He was done two years ago. He looked much more like Hambrick
than Eddie George last year...and with a much better OL than Troy had.
Post by S&C Gilbert
George has enough for one more season, though not as a starter - certainly
for playoffs (if the team makes them - not a given, seeing as how they've
lost Volek and McCants (sp?). I don't think losing Jervon was as big a
setback - in fact, I think the Beagles will find they overpaid the man.
Yeah. Kearse was pretty much told by the team last year that if he
didn't revert to his dominating self, and remain healthy, they weren't
gonna try to re-sign him. That guy is an enigma, IMO. When he's on,
he's Scary good...I've seen him swat TRIPLE teams like they were
nothing but fruit flies...the last few years, though, he's looked more
like Larry Allen. Great at times, not-so-great more often. Not that
he's gotten his big payday...who knows. I personally don't think the
guy has the desire and dedication to be the best, else he would
be...easily.
Post by S&C Gilbert
As to whether the team owes Eddie one more season - I guess they might
Nope. He got whatever he was "owed" last year. This town stuck by him
far longer than most would.
Post by S&C Gilbert
; he's
been a gladiator for them over his time with the team . . .
Yep...which is why he's been such a fan favorite. Lately, even
"Eddies", the overpriced bar and grill he owns near the coliseum has
gone from standing room only, to a ghost town. He's simply lost the
fans support.
Post by S&C Gilbert
I don't live too far from you, BTW, in Lovely Jack'n Co . . .
Oh? You got some pretty bad storms up that way yesterday, didn't ya?
Tornado's?
Post by S&C Gilbert
Just so folks don't get the wrong idea . . .
HTTR
SNORKY
2004-05-28 00:14:09 UTC
Permalink
Post by Bear
Post by SNORKY
Post by Bear
Liar... you know that God has a problem with liars, don't you?? He
also takes a rather dim view of those who sanction torture...
Then why did he allow his only forgotten son to be crucified?
"Forgotten son"?? From an alleged divinity student??
Yeah, they forgot him in the cave or something. Like Tom Sawyer.
Post by Bear
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...
Post by SNORKY
Look at all the ugly names you have called me, and I haven't called
you one thing.
That's because I'm not a lying sack of shit, but you are...
Post by SNORKY
And you are making shit up.
Said the troll who STILL hasn't shared with us the inside story he
supposedly has on Al Gore's son... sure sounds like you're the one
makin' shit up...
--

Snorky's 2004 New Year's Resolution: No Ad Hominems!

Guarantee: Catch ole Snork in an Ad Hominem and he
will leave RSFC forever*!

NOTE: Applies only to members/posters of RSFC and
not to idiot celebrities/politicians such as Bill
Clinton, Al Gore, etc.

*"Forever" cannot exceed 12/31/2004.

Debate Kill List:
--------------------------------------------------------
Dennis <drjudsjr> 12/30/2003
Jeffrey Davis 12/31/2003
VicXnews 01/20/2004
gribbee <***@...> 02/29/2004
"ccr"<***@....> 03/30/2004,04/10/2004
StephenJ 04/19/2004
Mr.N<***@hotmail.com> 05/01/2004
***@aol.comgetbush 05/04/2004
Zaphod Beeblebrox 05/14/2004
***@shentel.net (Bear) 05/15/2004
David Galehouse<***@cinci.rr.com> 05/15/2004
JustForFun <***@bellsouth.net> 05/16/2004
Bear
2004-05-26 08:01:24 UTC
Permalink
Post by SNORKY
Post by Bear
You and God should have a long talk about your contemptible views on the
use of torture... you need to worry about getting right with him before
you even waste a second worrying about trying to get over on your
friendly local Bear...
You would have civilians killed rather than tickle s prisoner,
Liar... you know that God has a problem with liars, don't you?? He
also takes a rather dim view of those who sanction torture...

Yeah, you're gonna have a LOT to answer for, come Judgement Day... not
to worry, I'll save a place for you in Hell...
Toby Drake
2004-05-25 14:07:47 UTC
Permalink
Post by Bear
That's the problem with you Sooners, you think there's only one sport...
TMML.

Toby
Enid, OK
JustForFun
2004-05-23 22:02:16 UTC
Permalink
Post by Bear
Post by Toby Drake
Post by Bear
Dubya's so fucking stupid he couldn't pour piss out of a boot if the
instructions were printed on the heel...
With a Yale undergraduate degree and a Harvard MBA, he probably knows better
than to piss in a boot.
Obviously, those two degrees were a gift... nobody as stupid as Dubya
has repeatedly proven himself to be could possibly EARN an Ivy League
degree... you are aware of the number of businesses this "Ivy Leaguer"
was GIVEN, and still ran into the ground, aren't you??
Well...I reckon Al Gore must have pissed into the boot of one of his
Vanderbilt professors, then. Being as how HE flunked out at Vandy and
HIS daddy had at least as much pull as Georges at the time...
Bear
2004-05-24 09:32:06 UTC
Permalink
Post by JustForFun
Post by Bear
Post by Toby Drake
Post by Bear
Dubya's so fucking stupid he couldn't pour piss out of a boot if the
instructions were printed on the heel...
With a Yale undergraduate degree and a Harvard MBA, he probably knows better
than to piss in a boot.
Obviously, those two degrees were a gift... nobody as stupid as Dubya
has repeatedly proven himself to be could possibly EARN an Ivy League
degree... you are aware of the number of businesses this "Ivy Leaguer"
was GIVEN, and still ran into the ground, aren't you??
Well...I reckon Al Gore must have pissed into the boot of one of his
Vanderbilt professors, then. Being as how HE flunked out at Vandy and
HIS daddy had at least as much pull as Georges at the time...
While quite true, how is Al Gore relevant to anything these days??
JustForFun
2004-05-24 16:31:04 UTC
Permalink
Post by Bear
Post by JustForFun
Post by Bear
Post by Toby Drake
Post by Bear
Dubya's so fucking stupid he couldn't pour piss out of a boot if the
instructions were printed on the heel...
With a Yale undergraduate degree and a Harvard MBA, he probably knows better
than to piss in a boot.
Obviously, those two degrees were a gift... nobody as stupid as Dubya
has repeatedly proven himself to be could possibly EARN an Ivy League
degree... you are aware of the number of businesses this "Ivy Leaguer"
was GIVEN, and still ran into the ground, aren't you??
Well...I reckon Al Gore must have pissed into the boot of one of his
Vanderbilt professors, then. Being as how HE flunked out at Vandy and
HIS daddy had at least as much pull as Georges at the time...
While quite true, how is Al Gore relevant to anything these days??
He's at the forefront of "The liberal network"...at least he was until
it got put on the back burner after "Air America" crashed and burned
and his investors got nervous.

As an aside, Ole Al sold his portion of the family farm in Carthage
and bought an estate in an elite Nashville suburb...So much for his
small town, everyman image. ;-) I just wish he had done it while still
V.P...all the Secret Service, helicopters, and closed down interstates
and Highways were quite annoying in rural middle Tennessee...Oh well,
at least the hypocrite doesn't own a tobacco farm anymore...
S&C Gilbert
2004-05-24 17:04:49 UTC
Permalink
"JustForFun" writes:
<snip>"Air America" crashed and burned <snip>

I'm curious - I always thought 'crashed and burned' meant something had
failed - Air America is still broadcasting, and while I don't know what
their financial status is (and if you do, please cite sources), they're on
the air as this is being written.
JustForFun
2004-05-24 18:33:03 UTC
Permalink
On Mon, 24 May 2004 12:04:49 -0500, "S&C Gilbert"
Post by S&C Gilbert
<snip>"Air America" crashed and burned <snip>
I'm curious - I always thought 'crashed and burned' meant something had
failed -
It has. They've been kicked off the Air in Chicago and Los Angeles,
two of the largest markets in the country and two of the four makets
after just two weeks, because their lease checks bounced. (They've
since been put back on in Chicago but are desperately seeking a new
station in that market) Two of their top executives (and investors)
have left the sinking ship to avoid drowning, less than two months
after launch.
Post by S&C Gilbert
Air America is still broadcasting, and while I don't know what
their financial status is (and if you do, please cite sources),
http://politicalwire.com/archives/2004/05/07/air_america_breaking_up.html
"The company also failed to make its scheduled payroll Wednesday,
leaving its staff of roughly 100 writers and producers unpaid until
Thursday."

http://www.reuters.co.uk/newsPackageArticle.jhtml?type=worldNews&storyID=514888&section=news
NEW YORK (Reuters) - Air America Radio, the upstart liberal talk show
network that has been plagued by management troubles, is seeking to
raise new money in efforts to pay off debts and steer the business
toward profitability.

Air America has racked up unpaid debts, which include payroll to sales
forces it hired in Chicago, Los Angeles and San Francisco, but was
forced to let go after backing out on plans to lease radio stations in
those markets.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/upi-breaking/20040414-050438-4801r.htm

CHICAGO, April 14 (UPI) -- Air America, the new liberal talk-radio
network that premiered in six cities two weeks ago, was off the air in
Chicago and Los Angeles Wednesday.

Air America programming featuring comedian Al Franken and Janeane
Garofalo was pulled by Multicultural Radio Broadcasting Inc., which
owns WNTD-950 AM in Chicago and KBLA-1580 AM in Los Angeles, after a
check bounced, the Chicago Tribune said.
Post by S&C Gilbert
they're on
the air as this is being written.
In some markets they are. I wouldn't reccomend investing in them,
though ;-)
S&C Gilbert
2004-05-24 18:45:07 UTC
Permalink
"JustForFun" posted some cites for his posts (thanks for that - you, sir,
I wouldn't reccomend investing in them, though ;-)
HA! If I have any money left after morgage and bills, maybe I can invest in
an ice cream cone!

BTW, when I take the time to listen to AirAmerica, it's on-line while I
work, so I don't follow the soap opera of ther financing, though I had heard
about the Chicago & LA situations and had seen on Drudge that paychecks had
bounced. Considering the source, I wasn't sure how much of it was wishful
thinking on Matt's part . . .
JustForFun
2004-05-24 19:00:57 UTC
Permalink
On Mon, 24 May 2004 13:45:07 -0500, "S&C Gilbert"
Post by S&C Gilbert
"JustForFun" posted some cites for his posts (thanks for that - you, sir,
I wouldn't reccomend investing in them, though ;-)
HA! If I have any money left after morgage and bills, maybe I can invest in
an ice cream cone!
LOL. If you'd have put some money into Ben & Jerrys a few years back,
you'd be independantly wealthy, now. ;-)
Post by S&C Gilbert
BTW, when I take the time to listen to AirAmerica, it's on-line while I
work, so I don't follow the soap opera of ther financing, though I had heard
about the Chicago & LA situations and had seen on Drudge that paychecks had
bounced. Considering the source, I wasn't sure how much of it was wishful
thinking on Matt's part . . .
There's plenty more...I just tried to give you the most credible
sources I could find quickly. I actually had heard it on CNN and MSNBC
so I was pretty sure it was accurate. I don't expect CNN would report
of financial problems surrounding a high profile liberal enterprise
without LOTS of evidence. ;-)

From everything I've read, they started with a healthy $60mil kitty
and quickly needed to raise another $8mil just to stay viable...sounds
a lot like John Deans campaign to me ;-)

As for Drudge, I agree with you. He's the online equivelant of the
national enquirer...he stumbles upon a true story just often enough to
retain *some* credibility, but anything he writes has to be taken with
a grain of salt until independantly verified.
Czar Drooling Simpleton I
2004-05-24 19:36:31 UTC
Permalink
In rec.sport.football.college JustForFun <***@bellsouth.net> wrote:

: It has. They've been kicked off the Air in Chicago and Los Angeles,
: two of the largest markets in the country and two of the four makets
: after just two weeks, because their lease checks bounced.

No matter how many times this lie keeps getting told, it's still
a lie.

BTW, Franken is beating Limbaugh in NYC. Uh oh.
--
Czar Drooling Simpleton I rec.sport.football.college
"His insufferable smugness would be much more credible
if he weren't such a drooling simpleton." --Daniel Seriff
JustForFun
2004-05-24 20:11:02 UTC
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On Mon, 24 May 2004 19:36:31 GMT, Czar Drooling Simpleton I
Post by Czar Drooling Simpleton I
: It has. They've been kicked off the Air in Chicago and Los Angeles,
: two of the largest markets in the country and two of the four makets
: after just two weeks, because their lease checks bounced.
No matter how many times this lie keeps getting told, it's still
a lie.
Uh, dude, unless you think CNN, MSNBC, AP, Reuters, the NY times,
and the Chicago Tribune are all irreputable, you are simply WRONG.
Post by Czar Drooling Simpleton I
BTW, Franken is beating Limbaugh in NYC.
So? They are both worthless, mindless. blatherers who care only about
themselves and their wacked out agendas. Neither brings anything of
substance to the table.

It's like saying Survivor is beating American Idol. Who cares?

Oh, you do, don't you?
Post by Czar Drooling Simpleton I
Uh oh.
Trevor Zion Bauknight
2004-05-24 20:13:53 UTC
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Post by JustForFun
On Mon, 24 May 2004 19:36:31 GMT, Czar Drooling Simpleton I
Post by Czar Drooling Simpleton I
: It has. They've been kicked off the Air in Chicago and Los Angeles,
: two of the largest markets in the country and two of the four makets
: after just two weeks, because their lease checks bounced.
No matter how many times this lie keeps getting told, it's still
a lie.
Uh, dude, unless you think CNN, MSNBC, AP, Reuters, the NY times,
and the Chicago Tribune are all irreputable, you are simply WRONG.
You're wrong.

Trev
JustForFun
2004-05-24 20:37:52 UTC
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On Mon, 24 May 2004 20:13:53 GMT, Trevor Zion Bauknight
Post by Trevor Zion Bauknight
Post by JustForFun
On Mon, 24 May 2004 19:36:31 GMT, Czar Drooling Simpleton I
Post by Czar Drooling Simpleton I
: It has. They've been kicked off the Air in Chicago and Los Angeles,
: two of the largest markets in the country and two of the four makets
: after just two weeks, because their lease checks bounced.
No matter how many times this lie keeps getting told, it's still
a lie.
Uh, dude, unless you think CNN, MSNBC, AP, Reuters, the NY times,
and the Chicago Tribune are all irreputable, you are simply WRONG.
You're wrong.
WOW. I provide the evidence from some very credible sources and the
best you can do is "You're wrong"? I sure can't argue with THAT kind
of debate tactic.
Trevor Zion Bauknight
2004-05-25 13:19:01 UTC
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Post by JustForFun
On Mon, 24 May 2004 20:13:53 GMT, Trevor Zion Bauknight
Post by Trevor Zion Bauknight
Post by JustForFun
On Mon, 24 May 2004 19:36:31 GMT, Czar Drooling Simpleton I
Post by Czar Drooling Simpleton I
: It has. They've been kicked off the Air in Chicago and Los Angeles,
: two of the largest markets in the country and two of the four makets
: after just two weeks, because their lease checks bounced.
No matter how many times this lie keeps getting told, it's still
a lie.
Uh, dude, unless you think CNN, MSNBC, AP, Reuters, the NY times,
and the Chicago Tribune are all irreputable, you are simply WRONG.
You're wrong.
WOW. I provide the evidence from some very credible sources and the
best you can do is "You're wrong"? I sure can't argue with THAT kind
of debate tactic.
You didn't provide any evidence from those sources, you just listed
them. Tell me what they say that supports your argument; or at least
provide a citation.

Holy cow.

Trev
Czar Drooling Simpleton I
2004-05-24 20:15:35 UTC
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In rec.sport.football.college JustForFun <***@bellsouth.net> wrote:
: On Mon, 24 May 2004 19:36:31 GMT, Czar Drooling Simpleton I
: <***@tbbqfubj.arg.invalid> wrote:
:
: >In rec.sport.football.college JustForFun <***@bellsouth.net> wrote:
: >
: >: It has. They've been kicked off the Air in Chicago and Los Angeles,
: >: two of the largest markets in the country and two of the four makets
: >: after just two weeks, because their lease checks bounced.
: >
: >No matter how many times this lie keeps getting told, it's still
: >a lie.
:
: Uh, dude, unless you think CNN, MSNBC, AP, Reuters, the NY times,
: and the Chicago Tribune are all irreputable, you are simply WRONG.

No. I think you are. There's a difference between checks
bouncing, and payment being stopped.
--
Czar Drooling Simpleton I rec.sport.football.college
"His insufferable smugness would be much more credible
if he weren't such a drooling simpleton." --Daniel Seriff
JustForFun
2004-05-24 20:43:50 UTC
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On Mon, 24 May 2004 20:15:35 GMT, Czar Drooling Simpleton I
Post by Czar Drooling Simpleton I
: On Mon, 24 May 2004 19:36:31 GMT, Czar Drooling Simpleton I
: >
: >: It has. They've been kicked off the Air in Chicago and Los Angeles,
: >: two of the largest markets in the country and two of the four makets
: >: after just two weeks, because their lease checks bounced.
: >
: >No matter how many times this lie keeps getting told, it's still
: >a lie.
: Uh, dude, unless you think CNN, MSNBC, AP, Reuters, the NY times,
: and the Chicago Tribune are all irreputable, you are simply WRONG.
No. I think you are.
Think harder. Those sources ALL reported what I claimed.
Post by Czar Drooling Simpleton I
There's a difference between checks
bouncing, and payment being stopped.
There is???

If you stop payment on a check you give me, does it not bounce when I
try to cash it? If I stop service based on that, does it not amount to
me stopping service based on a bounced check?

BTW, I haven't heard the claim you are trying to make above. Why the
fuck would they stop payment on a check that would ensure they got
heard in two of the largest markets in the country? Money problems,
maybe?
S&C Gilbert
2004-05-24 20:57:43 UTC
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Why the fuck would they stop payment on a check that would ensure they got
heard in two of the largest markets in the country?
As I understand (though I cannot, alas, cite the source - I believe it was
AP, some weeks ago), the owner of the stations in LA & Chicago was double
dipping - charging AA for ad time and then turning around and charging
buyers for the same air time.

Certainly, the network has had its share of start up woes; then again, if
the Washington Times hadn't been funded by Rev. Moon, they would not have
lasted their first years - their 1st editor in chief, Armand De Bourchand
(?) (dang senile moment - I'm not sure that's his right last name) stated
that in a number of interviews once they were ensconced firmly as the
'conservative' record of note.
JustForFun
2004-05-24 21:26:05 UTC
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On Mon, 24 May 2004 15:57:43 -0500, "S&C Gilbert"
Post by S&C Gilbert
Why the fuck would they stop payment on a check that would ensure they got
heard in two of the largest markets in the country?
As I understand (though I cannot, alas, cite the source - I believe it was
AP, some weeks ago), the owner of the stations in LA & Chicago was double
dipping - charging AA for ad time and then turning around and charging
buyers for the same air time.
AA was leasing air time, the stations had nothing to do with ad
revenue. The way I understand it, AA couldn't make back enough in ad
revenue so they pulled out after writing the check.
Post by S&C Gilbert
Certainly, the network has had its share of start up woes; then again, if
the Washington Times hadn't been funded by Rev. Moon, they would not have
lasted their first years - their 1st editor in chief, Armand De Bourchand
(?) (dang senile moment - I'm not sure that's his right last name) stated
that in a number of interviews once they were ensconced firmly as the
'conservative' record of note.
I don't think I'd be using the Washington Times as a predictor for the
success of AA just yet...
unknown
2004-05-25 15:59:21 UTC
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On Mon, 24 May 2004 16:26:05 -0500, JustForFun
Post by JustForFun
On Mon, 24 May 2004 15:57:43 -0500, "S&C Gilbert"
.
Post by JustForFun
AA was leasing air time, the stations had nothing to do with ad
revenue. The way I understand it, AA couldn't make back enough in ad
revenue so they pulled out after writing the check.
That's usually a felony, in case anyone's interested. Of course, it
depends on what the definition of "interested" is.





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unknown
2004-05-25 15:57:52 UTC
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On Mon, 24 May 2004 15:57:43 -0500, "S&C Gilbert"
Post by S&C Gilbert
Why the fuck would they stop payment on a check that would ensure they got
heard in two of the largest markets in the country?
As I understand (though I cannot, alas, cite the source - I believe it was
AP, some weeks ago), the owner of the stations in LA & Chicago was double
dipping - charging AA for ad time and then turning around and charging
buyers for the same air time.
How dare those dirty capitalist bastards at AA take away the stations
freedom to run their station as they see fit!
Dirty, capitalist, repubican, facist, bastards!!!
They ought to be shot, except that they want all the guns confiscated
and don't believe in violence even when the wolves are howling at the
door, and....



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Trevor Zion Bauknight
2004-05-25 13:23:07 UTC
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Post by JustForFun
Post by Czar Drooling Simpleton I
There's a difference between checks
bouncing, and payment being stopped.
There is???
Yes.
Post by JustForFun
If you stop payment on a check you give me, does it not bounce when I
try to cash it? If I stop service based on that, does it not amount to
me stopping service based on a bounced check?
Let's put it this way: The bank doesn't charge you $25 NSF fees for
one, and it does for the other; and you're not going to be able to
collect any kind of merchant fee for it either. There's a big
difference where intention is concerned.
Post by JustForFun
BTW, I haven't heard the claim you are trying to make above. Why the
fuck would they stop payment on a check that would ensure they got
heard in two of the largest markets in the country? Money problems,
maybe?
Maybe a dispute that would lead them to seek out other outlets in the
same market? If you haven't heard this "claim" you haven't been paying
attention to the issue at all.

Trev
TOE
2004-05-25 00:55:00 UTC
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Post by Czar Drooling Simpleton I
: It has. They've been kicked off the Air in Chicago and Los Angeles,
: two of the largest markets in the country and two of the four makets
: after just two weeks, because their lease checks bounced.
No matter how many times this lie keeps getting told, it's still
a lie.
BTW, Franken is beating Limbaugh in NYC. Uh oh.
Thank goodness.

I don't understand how Franken could be doing well
at all. I though liberals railed against "hate radio."

-TOE
Post by Czar Drooling Simpleton I
--
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"His insufferable smugness would be much more credible
if he weren't such a drooling simpleton." --Daniel Seriff
Spike
2004-05-25 13:31:26 UTC
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On Mon, 24 May 2004 20:55:00 -0400, "TOE"
Post by TOE
Post by Czar Drooling Simpleton I
: It has. They've been kicked off the Air in Chicago and Los Angeles,
: two of the largest markets in the country and two of the four makets
: after just two weeks, because their lease checks bounced.
No matter how many times this lie keeps getting told, it's still
a lie.
BTW, Franken is beating Limbaugh in NYC. Uh oh.
Thank goodness.
I don't understand how Franken could be doing well
at all. I though liberals railed against "hate radio."
It's probably chock full o' potty humor.
JustForFun
2004-05-23 20:36:04 UTC
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Post by Bear
Post by Douglas Lang
What I do not get about Michael Moore is his irony. He says Bush is dumb ,
but his entire documentry basically states Bush set up this mass conspiracy
with his saudi friends in order to milk Iraqs oil fields and stroke the
petroleum companies. Which is it? He is dumb? or smart enough to conspire to
take the worlds most valuable resource? LOL..
Or the willing dupe of smart men with their own, selfish agenda... as I
like to say "George Dubya Bush, a wholly owned subsidiary of Texaco"...
You seen the price of Gas at Texaco?? If Bush really WAS in the pocket
of the oil industry, don't ya think they would driving prices DOWN to
assure he is re-elected?...or do you think we will be paying 35cents a
gallon the month before the election? ;-)
Post by Bear
Post by Douglas Lang
Here are the facts; Bush stumbles on a few words so lets call him stupid and
use this to further our socialist mission.
Dubya's so fucking stupid he couldn't pour piss out of a boot if the
instructions were printed on the heel...
LOL...now THAT is funny...
Bear
2004-05-23 21:04:52 UTC
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Post by JustForFun
Post by Bear
Post by Douglas Lang
What I do not get about Michael Moore is his irony. He says Bush is dumb ,
but his entire documentry basically states Bush set up this mass conspiracy
with his saudi friends in order to milk Iraqs oil fields and stroke the
petroleum companies. Which is it? He is dumb? or smart enough to conspire to
take the worlds most valuable resource? LOL..
Or the willing dupe of smart men with their own, selfish agenda... as I
like to say "George Dubya Bush, a wholly owned subsidiary of Texaco"...
You seen the price of Gas at Texaco?? If Bush really WAS in the pocket
of the oil industry, don't ya think they would driving prices DOWN to
assure he is re-elected?...
Well, the problem is, he went and pissed off every Arab on the face of
the planet... now, OPEC is basically giving him the finger...

Just another Dubya fuckup that we can ALL thank him for... how much have
gas prices gone up since he took office, 60 per cent?? IIRC, I was
paying like a buck-twenty three and a half years ago, now I'm paying a
buck-ninety...

That's some SERIOUS inflation... all courtesy of the GOP
administration...

The same guys who have brought back record deficits...
Post by JustForFun
Post by Bear
Dubya's so fucking stupid he couldn't pour piss out of a boot if the
instructions were printed on the heel...
LOL...now THAT is funny...
You haven't heard that one before?? I wish I could claim it was mine,
but it's been around a while...
JustForFun
2004-05-23 22:11:12 UTC
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Post by Bear
Post by JustForFun
Post by Bear
Post by Douglas Lang
What I do not get about Michael Moore is his irony. He says Bush is dumb ,
but his entire documentry basically states Bush set up this mass conspiracy
with his saudi friends in order to milk Iraqs oil fields and stroke the
petroleum companies. Which is it? He is dumb? or smart enough to conspire to
take the worlds most valuable resource? LOL..
Or the willing dupe of smart men with their own, selfish agenda... as I
like to say "George Dubya Bush, a wholly owned subsidiary of Texaco"...
You seen the price of Gas at Texaco?? If Bush really WAS in the pocket
of the oil industry, don't ya think they would driving prices DOWN to
assure he is re-elected?...
Well, the problem is, he went and pissed off every Arab on the face of
the planet... now, OPEC is basically giving him the finger...
LOL...so he's pissed off the hand that feeds him? OPEC answers to
their customers...the guys you are claiming have Bush in their back
pocket.
Post by Bear
Just another Dubya fuckup that we can ALL thank him for... how much have
gas prices gone up since he took office, 60 per cent?? IIRC, I was
paying like a buck-twenty three and a half years ago, now I'm paying a
buck-ninety...
That's some SERIOUS inflation... all courtesy of the GOP
administration...
And you well know that Gasoline is not an inflationary item.
Post by Bear
The same guys who have brought back record deficits...
"record deficits" is a pretty meaningless term when we are
experiencing record EVERYTHING....record tax revenue, record
population, record domestic spending, etc. etc. etc.
Post by Bear
Post by JustForFun
Post by Bear
Dubya's so fucking stupid he couldn't pour piss out of a boot if the
instructions were printed on the heel...
LOL...now THAT is funny...
You haven't heard that one before??
Nope.
Post by Bear
I wish I could claim it was mine,
but it's been around a while...
Well the whole boot thing and Bush being a Texan and all...funny shit.
Douglas Lang
2004-05-23 23:41:07 UTC
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Post by Bear
Post by JustForFun
Post by Bear
Post by Douglas Lang
What I do not get about Michael Moore is his irony. He says Bush is dumb ,
but his entire documentry basically states Bush set up this mass conspiracy
with his saudi friends in order to milk Iraqs oil fields and stroke the
petroleum companies. Which is it? He is dumb? or smart enough to conspire to
take the worlds most valuable resource? LOL..
Or the willing dupe of smart men with their own, selfish agenda... as I
like to say "George Dubya Bush, a wholly owned subsidiary of Texaco"...
You seen the price of Gas at Texaco?? If Bush really WAS in the pocket
of the oil industry, don't ya think they would driving prices DOWN to
assure he is re-elected?...
Well, the problem is, he went and pissed off every Arab on the face of
the planet... now, OPEC is basically giving him the finger...
So you blame opec for the failure? You better call John Kerry and tell him
this because John Kerry disagrees with you.
Post by Bear
Just another Dubya fuckup that we can ALL thank him for... how much have
gas prices gone up since he took office, 60 per cent?? IIRC, I was
paying like a buck-twenty three and a half years ago, now I'm paying a
buck-ninety...
Al Gore in the days running up to the election said gas prices would
inevitably reach 3.50 before his term was over and there was little anyone
could do about it. So does this mean Al Gore was right?
Post by Bear
That's some SERIOUS inflation... all courtesy of the GOP
administration...
The same guys who have brought back record deficits...
No President can single handedly bring record deficits. Please remember that
we hit a recession 3 months after clitoris left office. That the job market
was fumbling before he left office. Should have never raised taxes on the
top 5 % after they had hired so many people.
Post by Bear
Post by JustForFun
Post by Bear
Dubya's so fucking stupid he couldn't pour piss out of a boot if the
instructions were printed on the heel...
LOL...now THAT is funny...
You haven't heard that one before?? I wish I could claim it was mine,
but it's been around a while...
Bear
2004-05-24 09:22:33 UTC
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Post by Douglas Lang
Post by Bear
Post by JustForFun
Post by Bear
Or the willing dupe of smart men with their own, selfish agenda... as I
like to say "George Dubya Bush, a wholly owned subsidiary of Texaco"...
You seen the price of Gas at Texaco?? If Bush really WAS in the pocket
of the oil industry, don't ya think they would driving prices DOWN to
assure he is re-elected?...
Well, the problem is, he went and pissed off every Arab on the face of
the planet... now, OPEC is basically giving him the finger...
So you blame opec for the failure? You better call John Kerry and tell him
this because John Kerry disagrees with you.
Yeah, I'm sure it's all a big coincidence-- Dubya goes and invades a
sovereign ARAB nation, then gas prices start skyrocketing...
Post by Douglas Lang
Post by Bear
That's some SERIOUS inflation... all courtesy of the GOP
administration...
The same guys who have brought back record deficits...
No President can single handedly bring record deficits.
Bullshit... we wouldn't have these record deficits if we weren't pissing
money away on subduing and rebuilding Iraq... Dubya CHOSE to do that, so
he bears direct and personal responsibility for what it has done to the
deficit...
JustForFun
2004-05-24 16:22:38 UTC
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Post by Bear
Post by Douglas Lang
Post by Bear
Post by JustForFun
Post by Bear
Or the willing dupe of smart men with their own, selfish agenda... as I
like to say "George Dubya Bush, a wholly owned subsidiary of Texaco"...
You seen the price of Gas at Texaco?? If Bush really WAS in the pocket
of the oil industry, don't ya think they would driving prices DOWN to
assure he is re-elected?...
Well, the problem is, he went and pissed off every Arab on the face of
the planet... now, OPEC is basically giving him the finger...
So you blame opec for the failure? You better call John Kerry and tell him
this because John Kerry disagrees with you.
Yeah, I'm sure it's all a big coincidence-- Dubya goes and invades a
sovereign ARAB nation, then gas prices start skyrocketing...
Post by Douglas Lang
Post by Bear
That's some SERIOUS inflation... all courtesy of the GOP
administration...
The same guys who have brought back record deficits...
No President can single handedly bring record deficits.
Bullshit... we wouldn't have these record deficits if we weren't pissing
money away on subduing and rebuilding Iraq... Dubya CHOSE to do that, so
he bears direct and personal responsibility for what it has done to the
deficit...
I think the clear point here is congress has to approve that spending.
Bush doesn't have a blank check.
Bear
2004-05-24 20:28:01 UTC
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Post by JustForFun
Post by Bear
Post by Douglas Lang
No President can single handedly bring record deficits.
Bullshit... we wouldn't have these record deficits if we weren't pissing
money away on subduing and rebuilding Iraq... Dubya CHOSE to do that, so
he bears direct and personal responsibility for what it has done to the
deficit...
I think the clear point here is congress has to approve that spending.
Bush doesn't have a blank check.
While what you say is true, you and I know that Congress has been a
rubber stamp for spending on the war in Iraq... it would amount to
political suicide to vote against funding for the troops over there...
JustForFun
2004-05-24 20:55:56 UTC
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Post by Bear
Post by JustForFun
Post by Bear
Post by Douglas Lang
No President can single handedly bring record deficits.
Bullshit... we wouldn't have these record deficits if we weren't pissing
money away on subduing and rebuilding Iraq... Dubya CHOSE to do that, so
he bears direct and personal responsibility for what it has done to the
deficit...
I think the clear point here is congress has to approve that spending.
Bush doesn't have a blank check.
While what you say is true, you and I know that Congress has been a
rubber stamp for spending on the war in Iraq... it would amount to
political suicide to vote against funding for the troops over there...
Then you are saying Kerry has committed political suicide?
Bear
2004-05-24 21:01:27 UTC
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Post by JustForFun
Post by Bear
Post by JustForFun
Post by Bear
Post by Douglas Lang
No President can single handedly bring record deficits.
Bullshit... we wouldn't have these record deficits if we weren't pissing
money away on subduing and rebuilding Iraq... Dubya CHOSE to do that, so
he bears direct and personal responsibility for what it has done to the
deficit...
I think the clear point here is congress has to approve that spending.
Bush doesn't have a blank check.
While what you say is true, you and I know that Congress has been a
rubber stamp for spending on the war in Iraq... it would amount to
political suicide to vote against funding for the troops over there...
Then you are saying Kerry has committed political suicide?
Has he voted against funding for the troops since the invasion began??
JustForFun
2004-05-24 21:34:48 UTC
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Post by Bear
Post by JustForFun
Post by Bear
Post by JustForFun
Post by Bear
Post by Douglas Lang
No President can single handedly bring record deficits.
Bullshit... we wouldn't have these record deficits if we weren't pissing
money away on subduing and rebuilding Iraq... Dubya CHOSE to do that, so
he bears direct and personal responsibility for what it has done to the
deficit...
I think the clear point here is congress has to approve that spending.
Bush doesn't have a blank check.
While what you say is true, you and I know that Congress has been a
rubber stamp for spending on the war in Iraq... it would amount to
political suicide to vote against funding for the troops over there...
Then you are saying Kerry has committed political suicide?
Has he voted against funding for the troops since the invasion began??
Yes.

There are TONS of sources for this...but I just HAD to post the one
you find most credible...LOL

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/menu/fstack/troop.LogIn.html

"I actually did vote for the $87 billion before I voted against it "
Allan Guyton
2004-05-24 21:35:37 UTC
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Post by Bear
Post by JustForFun
Post by Bear
Post by JustForFun
Post by Bear
Post by Douglas Lang
No President can single handedly bring record deficits.
Bullshit... we wouldn't have these record deficits if we weren't pissing
money away on subduing and rebuilding Iraq... Dubya CHOSE to do that, so
he bears direct and personal responsibility for what it has done to the
deficit...
I think the clear point here is congress has to approve that spending.
Bush doesn't have a blank check.
While what you say is true, you and I know that Congress has been a
rubber stamp for spending on the war in Iraq... it would amount to
political suicide to vote against funding for the troops over there...
Then you are saying Kerry has committed political suicide?
Has he voted against funding for the troops since the invasion began??
Um, yeah.
Post by Bear
May I remind the Senator that last November, at the President's
request, Congress passed an $87 billion supplemental appropriation.
This legislation was essential to our ongoing operations in Iraq and
Afghanistan - providing funding for body armor and other vital
equipment; hazard pay; health benefits; ammunition; fuel, and spare
parts for our military. The legislation passed overwhelmingly, with a
vote in the Senate of 87 to 12. Senator Kerry voted no. I note that
yesterday, attempting to clarify the matter, Senator Kerry said, quote,
"I actually did vote for the $87 billion before I voted against it."
(Laughter.) It's a true fact. (Laughter.)
From:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2004/03/20040317-3.html


I'm sure you don't like that source... how about this one:

http://www.boston.com/news/politics/president/articles/2004/03/17/kerry_
blasts_bush_on_protecting_troops/
Post by Bear
In addition, he rebutted a new Bush ad criticizing him for voting last
fall against $87 billion in additional funding for US troops in Iraq --
a supplemental appropriation that included money for body armor -- by
saying he would have supported it if it had been financed by repealing
a portion of the tax cuts implemented during the Bush administration.
Kerry made that proposal in an amendment he cosponsored; the Senate
rejected the amendment before approving the $87 billion.
"I actually did vote for the $87 billion before I voted against it," he
said.
It's the height of petulance to vote against a bill you claim to
support just because your version of the language was voted down...

So did Kerry commit political suicide?

I know I don't want this kind of childish, churlish buffoonery in the
Oval Office. Kerry would take his toys home to Boston the first time he
had a veto overridden or didn't get some spending bill he wanted...

Allan
Kent
2004-05-25 00:51:15 UTC
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Post by Bear
Post by JustForFun
Post by Bear
Post by JustForFun
Post by Bear
Post by Douglas Lang
No President can single handedly bring record deficits.
Bullshit... we wouldn't have these record deficits if we weren't pissing
money away on subduing and rebuilding Iraq... Dubya CHOSE to do that, so
he bears direct and personal responsibility for what it has done to the
deficit...
I think the clear point here is congress has to approve that spending.
Bush doesn't have a blank check.
While what you say is true, you and I know that Congress has been a
rubber stamp for spending on the war in Iraq... it would amount to
political suicide to vote against funding for the troops over there...
Then you are saying Kerry has committed political suicide?
Has he voted against funding for the troops since the invasion began??
Has he voted on anything since the invasion begun?
Kent
2004-05-25 00:50:21 UTC
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No President can single handedly bring record deficits.
Bullshit... we wouldn't have these record deficits if we weren't pissing
money away on subduing and rebuilding Iraq... Dubya CHOSE to do that, so
he bears direct and personal responsibility for what it has done to the
deficit...
I think the clear point here is congress has to approve that spending.
Bush doesn't have a blank check.
While what you say is true, you and I know that Congress has been a
rubber stamp for spending on the war in Iraq... it would amount to
political suicide to vote against funding for the troops over there...
Not if they were right, and the President was wrong.
Bear
2004-05-25 03:57:51 UTC
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No President can single handedly bring record deficits.
Bullshit... we wouldn't have these record deficits if we weren't
pissing
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money away on subduing and rebuilding Iraq... Dubya CHOSE to do that,
so
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he bears direct and personal responsibility for what it has done to the
deficit...
I think the clear point here is congress has to approve that spending.
Bush doesn't have a blank check.
While what you say is true, you and I know that Congress has been a
rubber stamp for spending on the war in Iraq... it would amount to
political suicide to vote against funding for the troops over there...
Not if they were right, and the President was wrong.
Problem was, we could never know that until AFTER the fact... the simple
truth is, at the time this was a very popular war with the electorate,
and an equally popular President... the voters WANTED their legislators
to back that effort enthusiastically...

That was the point of my original claim...
Douglas Lang
2004-05-23 23:37:21 UTC
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What I do not get about Michael Moore is his irony. He says Bush is dumb ,
but his entire documentry basically states Bush set up this mass conspiracy
with his saudi friends in order to milk Iraqs oil fields and stroke the
petroleum companies. Which is it? He is dumb? or smart enough to conspire to
take the worlds most valuable resource? LOL..
Or the willing dupe of smart men with their own, selfish agenda... as I
like to say "George Dubya Bush, a wholly owned subsidiary of Texaco"...
If we are accusing a man of investing in oil then shame shame. How dare
anyone invest in the number one resource this world has. In the mean time
the mass conspiracy of others. Let me get this straight... The oil companies
"stole the election" for Bush, then the Saudis used him to drill for oil in
Iraq? LOL...

The Democrats should change their slogan too. We will say anything because
were whores of the tax dollar.
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Here are the facts; Bush stumbles on a few words so lets call him stupid and
use this to further our socialist mission.
Dubya's so fucking stupid he couldn't pour piss out of a boot if the
instructions were printed on the heel...
But he can win an election and raise 120 million dollars in two months. Oh
well I guess some things you just arent good at.
Bear
2004-05-24 09:41:17 UTC
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Or the willing dupe of smart men with their own, selfish agenda... as I
like to say "George Dubya Bush, a wholly owned subsidiary of Texaco"...
If we are accusing a man of investing in oil then shame shame.
Tell you what, go read a biography of Bush, preferably one not written
by one of his right wing flunkies... pay particular attention to his
history as a businessman... you'll recognize a lot of the names of the
folks who got him where he is today...

I'm criticizing Dubya for being a tool of the oil bidness... it's the
same criticism I levelled at him the last election as well... he is in
the pocket of a number of the movers and shakers of the oil world...
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Dubya's so fucking stupid he couldn't pour piss out of a boot if the
instructions were printed on the heel...
But he can win an election
No, he can't... by himself, he couldn't get himself nominated to be the
county dogcatcher... like I said, he's a front for the people who are
really running the country these days...
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and raise 120 million dollars in two months.
Which just means that the people who own him are really rich, and
somewhat desperate to keep him in office, so that they can continue
getting richer off the Iraq war...
Exhibitionist
2004-05-23 15:02:45 UTC
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All of them will rot in hell.
Really? Why is that?
What mortal sin have either the French or Michael Moore committed?
Or is it now considered a mortal sin to publicly disagree with St. George W.
Bush?
"I don't need advice from a bunch of cheese-eating surrender-monkeys."
- - Gen. Norman Schwarzkopf
Bear
2004-05-23 20:00:33 UTC
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All of them will rot in hell.
Once again, the GOP sends its idiots to shoot the messenger...
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