Post by NoBody Post by -hh
Post by Lee Post by Lee Post by Siri Cruise Post by Lee
One reason for supply shortages: No one to drive
Because of low pay and terrible working
What do you propose be done about that?
FWIW, anyone who's been contemplating becoming a truck driver
has been reading headlines for the past ~7 years about how that
profession is going to be killed by self-driving technology. As such,
just why would one be motivated to enter that career field?
There is no vehicle right now that is even *close* to being
self-driving. The best we have is cars that work "most" of the time.
Nothing like a big rig being safe "most" of the time....
It doesn't matter that the technology isn't there yet, because its the news
of "its coming soon", with those articles noting that the tech is going to
invariably wipe out those jobs. That reporting affects the number of
potential new hire prospects: instead of paying for the specialty training,
to enter the field, some portion of them simply look elsewhere, throwing
the hire-retire ratio out of balance.
Post by NoBody Post by -hh Post by Lee Post by Lee Post by Siri Cruise
The free market is only a good thing when it brings profit to
republicans. Otherwise the only possible solution is, no, not
accepting a hit on profits, but government regulation.
As Biden said, we don't have a low labor
participation problem, we have a low wage
Yeah that's it. Companies are offering incentives for people to
to go to work and it's still not enough to you lefties.
Workers don't need "incentives",
they need a liveable wage. When is
the last time YOU got by on the
current minimum wage?
Wages have gone up and so has inflation to match.
For just which worker segment is this true? Anyone below the 1%?
Because it certainly isn't the case for the bottom quintile who are
I grabbed the wrong chart on the lookup, but the disparity between Wage
gains & Productivity gains is at the very core of the 40 years of erosion of
the Middle Class, which is particularly acute for the lower quintiles.
But to make just the absolutely direct comparison that you want, here's
Now the headline on the above is:
"The federal minimum wage is worth 17% less than it was 10 years ago"
...as it is illustrating the same trend where the MW lags behind inflation.
It just isn't as large as the lag behind productivity gains.
FYI, here's some more links to illustrate another factor in all of this,
which is that the numbers can be pretty easily manipulated, such as
by cherrypicking one's timescale for the start point. Here's two such
YMMV on what is the more appropriate choice, since there's really many
factors to consider in this, such as how many MW "entry level" jobs today
may not be as physically laborious, but require more skills/educations than
what a guy leaning on a coal shovel in 1938 needed to do his job.
Post by NoBody
Just for "minimum wage" 24 states increased actual wages.
So? There's been new laws just passed in some States, but the same
basic question remains: "...did the law actually keep up with inflation?"
And again, timescales are important, particularly for those States who
don't pass MW law increases every year.
Post by NoBody
Of course this caused inflation which negated that increase which again
proves my point. There are no government numbers available yet for 2021
but when they are published, you'll likely see quite the difference.
Social Security has already run their 2021 inflation calculation, as they're
on a different (offset) schedule; their 2022 COLA is +5.8%. Granted, the
CPI value's invariably going to be different (its currently +4.8%), but either
one is good enough for this conversation, and to identify just which States
have already passed (or even proposed) a MW increase of around +5% for
2022 to maintain pace with inflation?
Post by NoBody Post by -hh
So we're back to
start, except for the people in the middle class who didn't get those
(I assume "articial" is a typo for artificial).
The problem with that statement is that middle class didn't have artificial
increases that forced them to maintain pace with inflation/etc. For example,
in looking at the average pay where I work, it becomes quite clear that the
wage increases have been less than inflation over the past decade.
For example, I looked up the pay levels from my old 2011 job (this eliminates
any "promotion" factor to obscure the basic trends) and I found that after
inflation, today's 2021 pay is just 92% of its 2011 pay...an 8% decline.
Once again you've proved my point.
That showed that the Middle Class is *also* getting hosed, so then I have
to ask just what your point was here.
...because what you seem to be saying is that you consider it to be unfair
that Minimum Wage earners are getting screwed over slightly less than
the amount that the Middle Class earners are getting screwed over.
Well, if you don't like it that someone below you economically is getting
a little more fiscal protection than you are, then the solution is to quit
your mediocre-paying middle class job & go get a minimum wage job.