On Fri, 8 Oct 2021 11:47:45 -0700, Rudy Canoza says...
Post by Rudy Canoza
Trump only hangs out with the best people.
How many people do you personally know who have died mysteriously?
How about in plane crashes or car wrecks?
People beaten to death or murdered in a hail of bullets, or hung in a jail
Has ANY President of Democrat politician lost SO many bodyguards?
And what about violent freak accidents - like separate mountain biking and
skiing collisions in Aspen, Colorado? Or barbells crushing a person's throat?
Apparently, if you're Bill or Hillary Clinton, the answer to that question is
at least 33 - and possibly many more.
"Clinton body count or left-wing conspiracy? Three with ties to DNC
Ted Koppel, then-anchor of ABC News' "Nightline," routinely had discussions on
the issue following the July 20, 1993, death of White House Deputy Counsel
Vince Foster. In fact, he appeared on Koppel's show.
"One of the things I said was, 'Who knows what happened here? But let me ask
you a question.' I said, 'Ted, how many people do you know in your life who've
been murdered? Ted, how many people do you know in your life that have died
under suspicious circumstances?'
"Of course, the answer is zilch, zero, nada, none, very few." "Ask the Clintons
that question. And it's a significant number. It's a lot of people that they
know who have died, who've been murdered.
"And the same question here from Rachel Alexander. It's amazing the cycle that
exists with the Clintons. [Citing Townhall]: 'What it comes down to is this:
how many other politicians have you heard of who have had so many mysterious
deaths associated with them? You don't hear of a Bush body count - not even an
Obama body count.' There is a Clinton body count."
Barbara Wise - Nov. 29, 1996
Barbara Wise, 48, was a 14-year Commerce Department staff member who worked
with Ron Brown (see "Ron Brown" entry below, killed in a plane crash) and John
Huang, who worked at the Worthen Bank in Little Rock, where he met then-Gov.
Bill Clinton. Huang, who was born in China, was also a former executive of the
Lippo Group in Indonesia. Huang met with Clinton at the White House 10 times
between June 21 and June 27, 1994. As WND reported in 2000, "Right after that,
Webster Hubbell ... received $100,000 from the Lippo Group. Shortly after the
money was given to Mr. Hubbell, Huang obtained a secret clearance and an
executive position as assistant secretary of the Commerce Department. While at
the Commerce Department, Huang obtained secret materials on trade deals with
Indonesia, China, Japan, Korea and the Middle East. Huang also obtained
information on U.S. Patriot missile deals with South Korea and mobile artillery
for Kuwait." Asked if he was a spy for Beijing, Huang reportedly took pleaded
the Fifth Amendment nearly 2,000 times.
Wise's body was found partially nude and bruised in her office. Her death was
attributed to natural causes, as Wise had reportedly received several blood
transfusions for a liver ailment.
Ron Brown - April 3, 1996
Ron Brown, who had served as U.S. secretary of commerce, was killed in a plane
crash after Hillary Clinton dispatched him on a dubious mission to a war-torn
corner of the world, as WND reported. Brown and 34 others died when their Air
Force plane crashed into a Croatian mountainside. Brown's flight left the Tuzla
airport in Bosnia, a Muslim country where some were hostile to the American
"To protect his son Michael from prison, Ron Brown threatened to expose the
White House's yet unrevealed Asian fundraising scheme, in which Brown had
played a major role," wrote WND contributor and investigative writer Jack
Cashill. "Just weeks before his death, Brown started going to church for the
first time in ages. He was scared for his life and that of his confidante,
Cashill noted that the Croatian government suddenly insisted on a Dubrovnik
stop, a two-mile deviation from the flight path that the Air Force said was
"For the first time ever on friendly soil, the White House ordered the Air
Force to skip the 'safety' phase of the investigation and move directly to the
'accident' phase," Cashill wrote. "There would be no consideration other than
accident, even though the airport was near the Bosnian border and in a
potential hot fire zone.
"Three days after the crash and two days before his scheduled interview by the
Air Force, the Croatian responsible for the airport's navigation system was
found dead with a bullet hole in his chest," Cashill continued.
"A day later, every pathologist who viewed Brown's body back in America
concluded that his head wound, at the very least, looked like a bullet hole."
There would be no autopsy. No forensic testing. No search for an exit wound.
Head X-rays were destroyed, or "lost."
"The three Armed Forces pathologists and the forensic photographer who blew the
whistle on this case had their careers destroyed," Cashill wrote. "... [T]he
Armed Forces Institute of Pathology brass assured the public that Brown dies of
'multiple blunt force injuries to the head.' He was the only one of the 35
victims to have a reported head wound."
Charles Meissner - April 3, 1996
Charles Meissner, the assistant secretary of commerce, had issued John Huang a
security clearance. (See "Ron Miller" and "Barbara Wise" entries.) He and Ron
Brown were killed in a plane crash. (See "Ron Brown" entry.)
Stanley Huggins - June 23, 1994
Stanley Huggins reportedly had been investigating the Madison Guaranty Savings
and Loan collapse (see "James McDougal" entry). Reports indicate he died of
viral pneumonia before his 300 pages of findings could be released.
Bill Shelton - June 12, 1994
Bill Shelton was the fiancé of Kathy Ferguson (see "Kathy Ferguson" entry
below), and he questioned whether Ferguson had actually committed suicide.
Shelton, too, was reported to have committed suicide with a gun at Ferguson's
Kathy Ferguson - May 10, 1994
Kathy Ferguson was reported to have died from a suicide in which she shot
herself in the head, though her packed bags were found next to her body,
possibly indicating she planned to leave her home.
Ferguson was the ex-wife of Arkansas Trooper Danny Ferguson, who had been a co-
defendant, along with Clinton, in the Paula Jones lawsuit. Danny Ferguson had
escorted Paula Jones to Clinton's hotel room. Kathy Ferguson was a
corroborating witness for Paula Jones.
James Bunch - Feb. 11, 1994
James Bunch, 46, a Texas state employee in Austin who ran a prostitution ring
from his office, reportedly died from a suicide involving a gun. Bunch was said
to have owned a "little black book" of influential people, including at least
one "state legislator," from Texas and Arkansas who visited prostitutes.
Bunch's files contained descriptions of his high-profile clients, their sexual
preferences, the amount of money they were willing to spend, and whether they
were "good" or "bad" clients who might hurt the escorts. According to a report
in the Telegraph, "There [was] a possibility that juveniles were involved in
his business. Police told the Associated Press Bunch was arrested and
interrogated, but he hadn't appeared distraught or suicidal.
Gandy Baugh - Jan. 8, 1994
Gandy Baugh, who had been an attorney for Clinton pal and drug convict Dan
Lasater, reportedly killed himself by leaping from a window of a tall building.
Lasater, a figure in the Whitewater controversy, had been convicted of dealing
cocaine and served six months in jail. But Clinton later pardoned him.
In 1984, Lasater had purchased Angel Fire Resort, a ski resort near Taos, New
Mexico, and promoted it using Clinton's name. A U.S. Customs investigative
report revealed the resort was used for drug operations and money laundering.
Ed Willey - Nov. 29, 1993
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In her book alleging a campaign of slander and intimidation orchestrated
chiefly by Hillary Clinton, Kathleen Willey pointed a finger of suspicion at
the former first couple for the death of her husband, Ed Willey, who was
believed to have killed himself.
Kathleen Willey, who said she was groped by President Clinton in the White
House, acknowledged in an interview with WND in November 2007 that she stood by
the speculation she posed about her husband's demise in "Target: Caught in the
Crosshairs of Bill and Hillary Clinton."
Asked if she suspected her husband Ed, a lawyer and son of a prominent Virginia
lawmaker, was murdered, Willey replied, "Most definitely."
Did she believe the Clintons were involved?
"I do have suspicions," Willey said, "yes."
It was Ed Willey's dire financial straits that prompted Kathleen, then a White
House volunteer, to seek a meeting with President Clinton in the Oval Office to
plead for a paying job and any other help the commander-in-chief could give.
But Willey alleges the Nov. 29, 1993, meeting ended abruptly when the president
cornered her in a private passageway and sexually assaulted her.
At the time of that meeting, Clinton and Willey were unaware that Ed Willey was
lying dead of a gunshot wound to his mouth in the woods near his car, parked on
a hunting path in rural King and Queen County, Virginia.
What makes a book about Bill and Hillary Clinton so explosive that someone
would STEAL it? Kathleen Willey tells America the shocking story in her book,
"Target: Caught in the Crosshairs of Bill and Hillary Clinton."
Kathleen Willey became known in the summer of 1997 after lawyers for Clinton
accuser Paula Jones gave her name to a national magazine reporter. She was
scheduled to become one of only three witnesses in the Clinton impeachment
trial until some members of the House and Senate refused to allow her to
In the book, Willey recounts numerous incidents she believes were designed to
terrorize her into silence, with the latest taking place in September, just as
the book was in its final stages.
As WND reported, Willey said she was the target of an unusual house burglary
over the Labor Day weekend for which she blames the Clintons. While asleep
upstairs in her Virginia home, she said, a copy of a manuscript for "Target"
Willey told WND the break-in at her house reminded her of the widely reported
incident 10 years ago in which she claimed she was threatened near her present
Richmond-area home by a "jogger" just two days before she was to testify
against President Clinton in the Jones case.
She contends elements of the autopsy report of her husband's death are
inconsistent with suicide, pointing to similarities to the death of White House
aide Vince Foster, also believed to have killed himself. (See "Vince Foster"
"I've seen too much evidence regarding other people who have been involved with
the Clintons," she told WND.
Facing a deadline to repay hundreds of thousands of dollars he owed to "bad
people" who threatened him, Ed Willey had an apparent motive for suicide, and
five notes to loved ones were discovered by his secretary.
But Kathleen Willey writes "she could never understand how he could leave us,"
noting that while the letters are in his writing, "I also know that anyone
would write anything at gunpoint."
What motive could anyone have to murder him?
Willey writes that after her husband's death, her friend Carole in Colorado
told her something she had not known. Ed had confided to Carole's husband that
he had taken a briefcase full of cash to Little Rock, Ark., during the
Willey said she was shocked but acknowledged her husband could have done it.
Later she found a reference on a blog that explored illegal fundraising
activities by the Clintons and noted Ed Willey was known for "handling large
briefcases full of cash" as part of the 1992 presidential campaign.
She speculates: "I have no idea how anyone other than the Clintons would know
that Ed might have carried cash in briefcases. So why would he be killed?
Because he was carrying illegal money? That's probably not enough reason. But
what if, in his desperation, Ed had 'illegally borrowed' from the campaign?"
In the book, Willey says she goes back and forth in her mind on what happened
to her husband, and "as I do, the possibility lingers, logical or not, that Ed
Jerry Luther Parks - Sept. 26, 1993
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Jerry Luther Parks
Jerry Luther Parks
Two months after White House Deputy Counsel Vince Foster died, Jerry Luther
Parks - who had been head of security for Bill Clinton's headquarters in Little
Rock, Arkansas, during the 1992 presidential campaign and gubernatorial years -
was shot through the rear window of his car with a semiautomatic handgun.
As WND reported, Jerry Luther Parks was reportedly watching a news bulletin on
the death of Vincent Foster (see "Vince Foster" entry below) when he turned
from the television and muttered, "I'm a dead man." His son, Gary, was with him
in the room. It was July 21, 1993. Foster had just been found dead in Fort
Marcy Park, about seven miles from the White House, across the Potomac River in
Virginia. Foster had been shot through the head, said the bulletin, an apparent
suicide. (See "Vince Foster" entry below.)
British journalist Ambrose Evans-Pritchard interviewed the Parks family
extensively. In "The Secret Life of Bill Clinton," he reported that Parks was a
nervous wreck for the next two months. He packed a gun and drove evasively to
shake off any possible pursuers. At one point, Parks told his family that Bill
Clinton was "cleaning house" and that he was "next on the list."
On Sept. 23, 1993, as Parks was driving to his suburban Little Rock home along
the Chenal Parkway, a white Chevrolet Caprice with two men inside drove
alongside and peppered Parks' car with semiautomatic gunfire. Parks's car
ground to a halt. A man emerged from the white Chevy, fired two rounds into
Parks' chest with a 9-mm pistol, then sped off.
Several witnesses watched the murder. The killers were never found. As with so
many other "Arkancides" - the name given to the long list of suspicious deaths
among Arkansas associates of the Clintons - Big Media ignored the event.
One of the last people to see Vincent Foster alive was Linda Tripp, who then
worked as a secretary for Foster's boss, White House Counsel Bernard Nussbaum.
Tripp testified before Kenneth Starr's grand jury on July 28, 1998, that the
reason she had leaked Monica Lewinsky's story to Michael Isikoff at Newsweek
was that Tripp hoped the spotlight of national publicity might protect her from
"I am afraid of this administration," Tripp told the grand jury.
She continued, "I have what I consider to be well-founded fears of what they
are capable of ... I had reasons to believe that the Vince Foster tragedy was
not depicted accurately under oath by members of the administration ... I knew
based on personal knowledge, personal observations, that they were lying under
oath. So it became very fearful to me that I had information even back then
that was dangerous."
A juror asked, "But do you have any examples of violence being done by the
administration to people who were a threat to them?"
Tripp named Jerry Parks: "[T]he behavior in the West Wing with senior staff to
the president during the time the Jerry Parks [murder report] came over the fax
frightened me. He had been killed," she said.
The "flurry of activity," the closed-door meetings and the "hush-hush"
atmosphere in the White House all struck her as ominous and frightening.
"Maybe you had to be there," said Tripp.
"[The news of Parks' death] was something they wanted to get out in front of.
There was talk that this would be another body to add to the list of 40 bodies
or something that were associated with the Clinton administration. At that
time, I didn't know what that meant. I have since come to see such a list."
After the murder, Gary Parks told a staffer of the New York Observer his father
and Vince Foster had investigated Clinton's affairs at Hillary's request.
"He said that Vince Foster had called up his father, who was working as a
private investigator, to look into Clinton's romantic life in about 1980, after
Bill Clinton had lost the governor's office following his first term. Parks
said Hillary wanted a divorce. It looked like maybe the juggernaut she'd
believed in, and married, was over. Clinton had by then lost two big races and
won two. Till the Comeback Kid-boy is Bill Clinton gutsy-won back the
governorship in 1982. But in the early 80s, Parks said, Hillary asked her law
partner Vince Foster to prepare a divorce case and Foster called Parks, who
compiled a dossier of women's statements. Parks said that Hillary later decided
against a divorce, but that his father held on to the dossier. Then in 1993,
Parks said, after Vince Foster went to Washington, he demanded the return of
the file, and even called Jerry Parks in the days before his, Foster's, death,
to demand it. And that two months later his father was murdered, because, Parks
said, he had held out on returning the file. (The L.R. police never solved his
father's murder, not when I was looking into it a few years afterward.)"
Dr. Stanley Heard - Sept. 10, 1993
Dr. Stanley Heard of Hot Springs, Arkansas, had treated Bill Clinton's mother,
stepfather and brother and served as chairman of Clinton's National
Chiropractic Health Care Advisory Committee. He was killed, along with his
attorney, Steve Dickson, of Topeka, Kansas, in a plane crash 50 miles west of
The plane radioed to Dulles that there was a fire before it crashed. That
aircraft was the second one to cause problems for Dickson on the trip.
In 1993, the Washington Post reported, "Dickson flew his own plane from Topeka,
but on the way to Washington it developed problems in St. Louis. There, he left
his plane for repair and rented another plane."
The National Transportation and Security Board said the crash was due to " an
inadequate annual inspection of the airplane and non-compliance with
airworthiness directives by company maintenance personnel."
Jon Parnell Walker - Aug. 15, 1993
Jon Parnell Walker fell to his death from the top of the Lincoln Towers
building in Arlington, Virginia.
On July 10, 1994, Connecticut's The Day newspaper reported, "In March 1992,
Walker, and investigator for the Resolution Trust Corporation (RTC), had
contacted the Kansas City RTC regional office for information concerning
possible ties between Whitewater Development, Madison Guaranty Savings & Loan
[above] and the Clintons."
Vince Foster - July 20, 1993
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Hillary and Vince Foster
Hillary and Vince Foster
Vince Foster was deputy White House counsel and Hillary's friend and law
partner who had connections to the Travelgate and Whitewater scandals. In 1993,
Foster was found dead in a park with a fatal gunshot wound to his mouth. As WND
reported, his suicide was the subject of much speculation and three official
Investigations by the U.S. Park Police, the Department of Justice, the FBI,
Congress, Independent Counsel Robert B. Fiske and Independent Counsel Kenneth
Starr concluded Foster's death was a suicide. However, as WND reported in 2003,
one of Starr's key investigators challenged the official line, insisting the
probe's result was predetermined, only a few plotters were required to engineer
the result, the crime scene was altered and that major newspaper editors killed
stories by reporters pursuing the truth. The Washington Post reported that
federal investigators were not allowed to enter Foster's office after his
death, but "White House aides enter[ed] Foster's office shortly after his
death, giving rise to speculation that files were removed from his office."
In his 2005 book "The Truth about Hillary: What She Knew, When She Knew It, And
How Far She'll Go to Become President," Edward Klein wrote of Hillary's
involvement in the effort to remove Foster's files:
The night of [Foster's] death, Hillary launched one of the most shameful -
and illegal - cover-ups of her entire career.
She sent two of her most trusted White House loyalists - Maggie Williams,
the First Lady's chief of staff, and Patsy Thomasson, who was in charge of
White House administration - into Foster's office to retrieve embarrassing and
incriminating documents related to Whitewater and Hillary's other personal
affairs. While White House Counsel Bernard Nussbaum barred investigators from
entering Foster's office, Maggie Williams, Patsy Thomasson, and Craig
Livingston, Hillary's director of White House security, removed armloads of
files and loose-leaf binders.
"In addition, a White House staffer allegedly tampered with the titles of
several memos and removed the first lady's initials in an effort to erase her
role in improper behavior."
Jim Wilhite - Dec. 21, 1992
Jim Whilhite, 54, vice chairman of ARKLA (see "Ron Miller" entry), is killed in
a one-man skiing accident. He reportedly "suffered severe head injuries when he
skied into a tree on Snowmass Mountain in Aspen, Colorado, while on a family
vacation." He had planned to retire from ARKLA the following April.
C. Victor Raiser II and Montgomery Raiser - July 30, 1992
C. Victor Raiser II, the finance co-chairman of Bill Clinton's presidential
campaign, was killed in a plane crash, along with his son, Montgomery, and
three other passengers. Another passenger and the pilot were injured.
Clinton campaign Press Secretary Dee Dee Myers described C. Victor Raiser II as
"a major player" in the Clinton organization, according to the New York Times.
He was the national finance co-chairman of Clinton's presidential campaign and
had been a friend of the Clintons for about a decade. He was also previously
the national finance chairman of the Democratic National Committee. He served
on the boards of the Democratic Business Council and the Center for National
Policy and the board of advisers of the Democratic Leadership Council.
Susan Coleman - Feb. 15, 1977
Susan Coleman, who was pregnant at the time of her death, was rumored to have
had an affair with Clinton while he was still Arkansas attorney general.
Clinton had been Coleman's law professor at the university of Arkansas in
Though Coleman died of a gunshot wound to the back of her head, her death was
ruled a suicide.
A number of people connected to Bill Clinton have turned up dead.
James McDougal - Clinton's convicted Whitewater partner died of an apparent
heart attack, while in solitary confinement. He was a key witness in Ken
Starr's investigation. Was James McDougal Murdered In A Federal Prison To
Ron Brown - Secretary of Commerce and former DNC Chairman. Reported to have
died by impact in a plane crash. A pathologist close to the investigation
reported that there was a hole in the top of Brown's skull resembling a gunshot
wound. At the time of his death Brown was being investigated, and spoke
publicly of his willingness to cut a deal with prosecutors.
The Botched Ron Brown Investigation
An Interview with AFIP Forensic Photographer Kathleen Janoski
by Wesley Phelan
Vince Foster - Former white House counselor, and colleague of Hillary Clinton
at Little Rock's Rose law firm. Died of a gunshot wound to the head, ruled a
suicide. Snippets From The Vince Foster Death Investigation
Mary Mahoney - A former White House intern was murdered July 1997 at a
Starbucks Coffee Shop in Georgetown. The murder happened just as she was to go
public with her story of sexual harassment in the White House.
Mary C. Mahoney and Eric Butera
Was this just a robbery gone bad? - See: Starbucks Suspect Faces Host of
Charges By Bill Miller Washington Post, August 5, 1999
C. Victor Raiser II - & - Montgomery Raiser: Major players in the Clinton fund
raising organization died in a private plane crash in July 1992.
Paul Tulley - Democratic National Committee Political Director found dead in a
hotel room in Little Rock, September 1992. Described by Clinton as a "Dear
friend and trusted advisor".
Ed Willey - Clinton fund raiser, found dead November 1993 deep in the woods in
Virginia of a gunshot wound to the head. Ruled a suicide. Ed Willey died on the
same day his wife Kathleen Willey claimed Bill Clinton groped her in the oval
office in the White House. Ed Willey was involved in several Clinton fund
Jerry Parks - Head of Clinton's gubernatorial security team in Little Rock.
Gunned down in his car at a deserted intersection outside Little Rock. Park's
son said his father was building a dossier on Clinton. He allegedly threatened
to reveal this information. After he died the files were mysteriously removed
from his house.
James Bunch - Died from a gunshot suicide. It was reported that he had a "Black
Book" of people containing names of influential people who visited prostitutes
in Texas and Arkansas.
James Wilson - Was found dead in May 1993 from an apparent hanging suicide. He
was reported to have ties to Whitewater.
Kathy Ferguson - Ex-wife of Arkansas Trooper Danny Ferguson died in May 1994
was found dead in her living room with a gunshot to her head. It was ruled a
suicide even though there were several packed suitcases, as if she was going
somewhere. Danny Ferguson was a co-defendant along with Bill Clinton in the
Paula Jones lawsuit. Kathy Ferguson was a possible corroborating witness for
Bill Shelton - Arkansas state Trooper and fiancée of Kathy Ferguson. Critical
of the suicide ruling of his fiancée, he was found dead in June, 1994 of a
gunshot wound also ruled a suicide at the grave-site of his fiancée.
Gandy Baugh - Attorney for Clinton friend Dan Lassater died by jumping out a
window of a tall building January, 1994. His client was a convicted drug
Florence Martin - Accountant - Sub-contractor for the CIA related to the Barry
Seal Mena Airport drug smuggling case. Died of three gunshot wounds.
Suzanne Coleman - Reportedly had an affair with Clinton when he was Arkansas
Attorney General. Died of a gunshot wound to the back of the head, ruled a
suicide. Was pregnant at the time of her death.
Paula Grober - Clinton's speech interpreter for the deaf from 1978 until her
death December 9, 1992. She died in a one car accident.
Danny Casolaro - Investigative reporter. Investigating Mena Airport and
Arkansas Development Finance Authority. He slit his wrists, apparent suicide in
the middle of his investigation.
Paul Wilcher - Attorney investigating corruption at Mena Airport with Casolaro
and the 1980 "October Surprise" was found dead on a toilet June 22, 1993 in his
Washington DC apartment. Had delivered a report to Janet Reno 3 weeks before
Jon Parnell Walker - Whitewater investigator for Resolution Trust Corp. Jumped
to his death from his Arlington, Virginia apartment balcony August 15,1993 Was
investigating Morgan Guarantee scandal.
Barbara Wise - Commerce Department staffer. Worked closely with Ron Brown and
John Huang. Cause of death unknown. Died November 29, 1996. Her bruised nude
body was found locked in her office at the Department of Commerce.
Charles Meissner - Assistant Secretary of Commerce who gave John Huang special
security clearance, died shortly thereafter in a small plane crash.
Dr. Stanley Heard - Chairman of the National Chiropractic Health Care Advisory
Committee died with his attorney Steve Dickson in a small plane crash. Dr.
Heard, in addition to serving on Clinton's advisory council personally treated
Clinton's mother, stepfather and brother.
Barry Seal - Drug running pilot out of Mena Arkansas, Death was no accident.
Johnny Lawhorn Jr. - Mechanic, found a check made out to Clinton in the trunk
of a car left in his repair shop. Died when his car hit a utility pole.
Stanley Huggins - Suicide. Investigated Madison Guarantee. His report was never
Hershell Friday - Attorney and Clinton fund raiser died March 1, 1994 when his
Kevin Ives & Don Henry - Known as "The boys on the track" case. Reports say the
boys may have stumbled upon the Mena Arkansas airport drug operation.
Controversial case where initial report of death was due to falling asleep on
railroad track. Later reports claim the 2 boys had been slain before being
placed on the tracks. Many linked to the case died before their testimony could
come before a Grand Jury. see: The Train Deaths - plus some comments from a
mother of one of the boys about the connection to Bill Clinton..
THE FOLLOWING SEVEN PERSONS HAD INFORMATION ON THE IVES / HENRY CASE:
Keith Coney - Died when his motorcycle slammed into the back of a truck July,
Keith McMaskle - Died stabbed 113 times, Nov, 1988
Gregory Collins - Died from a gunshot wound January 1989.
Jeff Rhodes - He was shot, mutilated and found burned in a trash dump in April
James Milan - Found decapitated. Coroner ruled death due to natural causes.
Jordan Kettleson - Was found shot to death in the front seat of his pickup
truck in June 1990.
Richard Winters - Was a suspect in the Ives / Henry deaths. Was killed in a
set-up robbery July 1989.
THE FOLLOWING CLINTON BODYGUARDS ARE DEAD
Major William S. Barkley Jr.
Captain Scott J. Reynolds
Sgt. Brian Hanley
Sgt. Tim Sabel
Major General William Robertson
Col. William Densberger
Col. Robert Kelly
Spec. Gary Rhodes
The Liberal Argument Outline
1. Use spun facts:
These can be found on Huffington Post, Daily Kos, MSNBC, and many other liberal
sources. What they do is take facts, polls or arguments and add a liberal spin
in a weak attempt to make bad news for liberals look good. These are easily
debunked and exposed as lies by going to the original source and posting the
hard, cold facts with NO spin.
Note: At this point, you have won. It should never take more than one
post to win an argument with a liberal. It is recommended that you claim
victory and disengage at this point. If you continue, for fun or
experimental purposes, no further logic will be forthcoming from the
2. The Next Step For The Liberal Will Be To Attempt To Discredit Your
If it is Fox or any perceived "right wing" source, they will refuse to
believe it. If it is a non-partisan source, they will claim it is right
wing, if it is a left of center source, they will find another lefty
source to "prove" you are wrong. They will not discuss the facts
themselves, as they know they have lost. If you must go down this road
(there is a high entertainment value), don't allow this diversion. Go
back to the facts.
3. The Limbaugh Defense:
This is one that comes out early and often. Although you know they never listen
to Rush Limbaugh and have no idea what he says, they will drag him out and
claim you are a Ditto head. This is another diversionary tactic. It has no
relevance and is an attempt to change the subject. The more desperate they are,
the more childish and ridiculous the reference to Limbaugh becomes: Flush,
LimpBag, etc. Ignore this and re-post the facts. DO NOT BE DIVERTED.
4. The Personal Attack:
Another common thread. Also designed to divert the lost argument. NEVER give
any hint of personal information. Even something as innocuous as "I am a chef".
They will attempt to engage you and call you a liar to divert attention
from the original lost argument. Ignore this and re-post the facts yet
to be refuted.
5. Name Calling:
Still another diversion. If you fail to give them any personal information,
they will attempt to draw you out to gain more insight into your personal side.
Then they will return to step 4. Ignore this.
6. The Liberal Bat Signal:
When they find out they are unable to engage
you, divert you or goad you into a completely irrelevant topic, they
will send out the Bat Signal. This is where a bunch of Liberals (or
often, the same one using several names, i.e., Rudy) post a number of
rapid fire posts congratulating the Liberal on handing you your head on
a platter. This tactic often works on even the most logical and
disciplined of us. The urge to rant must be resisted. Your rant will
supply them with all the personal insight they need to spew hatred and
personal attacks. The best tactic here is to use the same tactic back at
Keep in mind, a Liberal will never admit you have a valid point (Dutch
did, once), much less that you won a debate. So, the only reasons to
continue a dialog with a liberal after the initial statement of facts
that established your victory are for entertainment and educational
purposes. If you refuse to take the bait and demand the topic remain on
the original premise, they will eventually just go away and try to find
someone else that will engage them on their terms.
Now, go away, Snowflake.
Liberalism Really IS a Disease