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Joe Cooper
2016-02-07 17:24:52 UTC
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Aside from “the establishment,” there is no bigger boogeyman in the 2016
election than the dreaded “Goldman Sachs.”

“The establishment” is a bipartisan Freddie Krueger, haunting the dreams
of people whose only knowledge of the term is an abstract notion spun by
those selling something. Goldman Sachs, on the other hand, is a tangible
company, a legal company, but perhaps more demonized on the left than
anything this side of the Koch Brothers.

If you’re inclined to think “Wall Street” is robbing you blind, invoking
Goldman Sacks is enough to make you grab a pitchfork. That’s why its name
has become a pejorative attack term.

Of course, Goldman Sachs is just one of many investment banks in the
world. But saying so-and-so is “the candidate of Deutsche Bank” would
only confuse some Democratic primary voters into thinking they were
talking about a lesser-known Bond villain. So Goldman Sachs it is.

The candidate of Goldman Sachs, without any question, is Hillary Clinton.
Clinton earned $675,000 for three – count ‘em, THREE – speeches to
various branches of the company. The CEO of Goldman, Lloyd Blankfein, and
his wife are Clinton supporters – she has maxed out to her campaign and
he’s on board, too, though he won’t say it publicly because he doesn’t
want to hurt her chances.

This is nothing new. During her Senate career, Goldman was second only to
Citigroup when it came to campaign cash for Hillary Clinton. JPMorgan
Chase, Morgan Stanley, even Lehman Brothers also were among Clinton’s
biggest patrons.

So when Bernie Sanders calls Clinton the candidate of Wall Street, he’s
not lying.

Hillary, naturally, denies this charge. She says she’s never changed her
positions based on who gives her campaign donations. This may be true.
But campaign contributions generally aren’t just to “get things done.”
Often times they are to stop things from getting done. To hold government
at bay.

In her time in Washington, Hillary Clinton has talked a good game about
the evils of the wealthy and Wall Street. But what has she done about it?

Sometimes you pay someone to do something, sometimes you pay someone not
to.

The charge of being the “candidate of Wall Street” got Hillary angrier in
Thursday night’s debate than she’s been since she was railing against
President George W. Bush. The mere suggestion that nearly three-quarters
of a million dollars for a couple of hours of talking could have any
influence on her was akin to suggesting she kicked puppies for fun.

Indignant, Clinton said nothing could be further from the truth. That
employees of a large investment firm wanted only to hear her regale them
with tales of the raid that killed bin Laden – which she was, at best,
tangentially involved in.

So Hillary’s defense is this story – the unclassified parts of which were
readily available publicly – was so compelling that Goldman Sachs
employees needed to hear it three separate times? Or three separate
divisions of Goldman decided they must hear it for themselves?

Maybe her first speech rippled through the firm like layoff rumors and
others couldn’t resist the siren call of the account of vague details and
listening to radio traffic. Doubtful.

When companies plunk down huge sums for a speech it isn’t to entertain
their employees.

Hillary, of course, could end any speculation on the subject by releasing
the transcripts from her speeches. But, in traditional Clinton style, the
gatekeeper of that information (her), after promising to “look into it”
in front of a crowd, is now refusing to do it away from television
cameras.

Why? Because when companies hire speakers, they tend to want them to say
something relevant to their industry and favorable about their company.
It’s highly likely Hillary Clinton sang the praises of Goldman Sachs,
investment firms and Wall Street in general.

She could’ve gotten away once with telling them they’re the root of all
our economic ills and pure evil, but not two more times. If companies
wanted to pay a lot of money to be told they’re awful, they’d hire Don
Rickles for a lot less money and a lot more laughs.

So why won’t Hillary release the transcripts? Because the contents of
those speeches would be damaging to her narrative that she’ll “stand up
to Wall Street.” You can’t “stand up” when you’re on the record bowing
down.

So what did Goldman Sachs get for its $675,000, plus huge campaign
contributions? For one, you can rest assured when it calls, she answers.
Although, as a private citizen, she wasn’t in any position to help them
at the time, there was no doubt she was running for president. Hillary
claims she wasn’t sure she would run then, but the Washington Post was.
As was everyone else on the planet.

Goldman Sachs paid a friend, a powerful friend, mostly to leave it alone
should Hillary ever find herself in a position to truly upset the apple
cart. What she says to get votes, as is the case with most politicians,
is irrelevant.

Or course, all of this is unprovable. Clinton is corrupt but not stupid.
Presidents can find all manner of reasons to oppose legislation that have
nothing to do with the purported purpose of a bill.

The assurance there will be no serious, dogged follow-up questions or
investigative reporters dispatched to uncover the content of those
speeches is a given.

So we’re left with Hillary receiving a huge sum of money to talk for a
short while on topics we’re left to speculate about. One thing I’d like
to know is why she charged UCLA $300,000 for a “20- to 30-minute speech.”
And when the school asked for “the public university” reduced rate, they
were told that was the reduced rate for schools.

So why did she charge UCLA more than Goldman Sachs? Does she care more
for investment banks than colleges? Or was it all those campaign
contributions?

Maybe it was just the benefits of friendship.

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--
Obama Nine Hours Before Paris Terror Attack: "We've Contained ISIS."
ISIS: "We've contained Obama."

"Never underestimate the willingness of white progressives to be offended
on behalf of people who aren’t and to impose their will on those who
didn’t ask for it." (Derek Hunter)

"No doubt Hillary would like to call [Paula] Jones a liar, but Bill paid
Jones $850,000 to settle her sexual harassment suit. Can you imagine the
fun Donald Trump, for one, would have with that? Plus, it was Bill
Clinton, not Paula Jones, who was found by the presiding federal judge to
have committed perjury."--John Hinderaker
Mitchell Holman
2016-02-07 17:44:28 UTC
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Post by Joe Cooper
The candidate of Goldman Sachs, without any question, is
.....is Ted Cruz



Ted Cruz Forgot to Mention Massive Loan From
Goldman Sachs, His Wife’s Employer

Ted Cruz can take a break from defending his
eligibility to run for president because today
he's the subject of a new scandal. While the
Texas senator often tells a cute story about his
wife Heidi immediately agreeing when he suggested
they liquidate their assets to fund his first
campaign, the New York Times reports that he's
been omitting the part where they obtained two
loans from Citibank and Goldman Sachs, where
Heidi works, which eventually totaled $1 million.

http://tinyurl.com/zckhtlw
Joe Cooper
2016-02-07 21:57:42 UTC
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Post by Mitchell Holman
.....is Ted Cruz
Let's follow the logic here.

1. Ted Cruz borrows a mil from GS, and that means GS "owns" him. The loan
was properly disclosed to the gov't in one document, neglected in another,
so that means Cruz "hid" the loan.

2. Hillary Clinton is paid $650K for 3 private speeches, but GS does not
"own" her.

3. Donald Trump owes billions to Wall Street banks, but that doesn't mean
they "own" him, either.
--
Obama Nine Hours Before Paris Terror Attack: "We've Contained ISIS." ISIS:
"We've contained Obama."

"Never underestimate the willingness of white progressives to be offended
on behalf of people who aren’t and to impose their will on those who didn’t
ask for it." (Derek Hunter)

"No doubt Hillary would like to call [Paula] Jones a liar, but Bill paid
Jones $850,000 to settle her sexual harassment suit. Can you imagine the
fun Donald Trump, for one, would have with that? Plus, it was Bill Clinton,
not Paula Jones, who was found by the presiding federal judge to have
committed perjury."--John Hinderaker
Mitchell Holman
2016-02-07 23:45:58 UTC
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Post by Joe Cooper
Post by Mitchell Holman
.....is Ted Cruz
Let's follow the logic here.
1. Ted Cruz borrows a mil from GS, and that means GS "owns" him. The
loan was properly disclosed to the gov't in one document, neglected in
another, so that means Cruz "hid" the loan.
Ted Cruz is literally in bed with Goldman Sachs.

Is that why you deleted who his wife is?
Post by Joe Cooper
2. Hillary Clinton is paid $650K for 3 private speeches, but GS does
not "own" her.
Hillary is not sleeping with Goldman Sachs.

Cruz is.

Case closed.
Christopher Helms
2016-02-08 02:13:00 UTC
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Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Joe Cooper
Post by Mitchell Holman
.....is Ted Cruz
Let's follow the logic here.
1. Ted Cruz borrows a mil from GS, and that means GS "owns" him. The
loan was properly disclosed to the gov't in one document, neglected in
another, so that means Cruz "hid" the loan.
Ted Cruz is literally in bed with Goldman Sachs.
Is that why you deleted who his wife is?
Post by Joe Cooper
2. Hillary Clinton is paid $650K for 3 private speeches, but GS does
not "own" her.
Hillary is not sleeping with Goldman Sachs.
They didn't give her all that money because they like the way she colors her hair.
Mitchell Holman
2016-02-08 02:53:54 UTC
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Post by Christopher Helms
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Joe Cooper
Post by Mitchell Holman
.....is Ted Cruz
Let's follow the logic here.
1. Ted Cruz borrows a mil from GS, and that means GS "owns" him.
The loan was properly disclosed to the gov't in one document,
neglected in another, so that means Cruz "hid" the loan.
Ted Cruz is literally in bed with Goldman Sachs.
Is that why you deleted who his wife is?
Post by Joe Cooper
2. Hillary Clinton is paid $650K for 3 private speeches, but GS
does not "own" her.
Hillary is not sleeping with Goldman Sachs.
They didn't give her all that money because they like the way she colors her hair.
Hillary sucks up to the same Wall Street insiders as
every other Republican. She is not marriage to one tho.
Joe Cooper
2016-02-08 17:27:54 UTC
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Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Joe Cooper
Post by Mitchell Holman
.....is Ted Cruz
Let's follow the logic here.
1. Ted Cruz borrows a mil from GS, and that means GS "owns" him. The
loan was properly disclosed to the gov't in one document, neglected in
another, so that means Cruz "hid" the loan.
Ted Cruz is literally in bed with Goldman Sachs.
Is that why you deleted who his wife is?
Nope. His wife's job has nothing to do with the simple issue: Cruz
borrowed money, fully secured with assets.

Cruz repaid the loans.
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Joe Cooper
2. Hillary Clinton is paid $650K for 3 private speeches, but GS does
not "own" her.
Hillary is not sleeping with Goldman Sachs.
$650,000 for three private speechs to GS staff, speeches for which
Hillary refuses to release the transcripts.

Of course she's "sleeping with GS." She's bought and paid for.
Post by Mitchell Holman
Cruz is.
No, crude Alinsky #13 aside, he's not.

Trump, on the other hand, owes BILLIONS to Wall Street banks...who's he
sleeping with?
--
Obama Nine Hours Before Paris Terror Attack: "We've Contained ISIS."
ISIS: "We've contained Obama."

"Never underestimate the willingness of white progressives to be offended
on behalf of people who aren’t and to impose their will on those who
didn’t ask for it." (Derek Hunter)

"No doubt Hillary would like to call [Paula] Jones a liar, but Bill paid
Jones $850,000 to settle her sexual harassment suit. Can you imagine the
fun Donald Trump, for one, would have with that? Plus, it was Bill
Clinton, not Paula Jones, who was found by the presiding federal judge to
have committed perjury."--John Hinderaker
k***@maricaibo.com
2016-02-08 18:28:46 UTC
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On Mon, 8 Feb 2016 17:27:54 -0000 (UTC), Joe Cooper
Post by Joe Cooper
Nope. His wife's job has nothing to do with the simple issue: Cruz
borrowed money, fully secured with assets.
Cruz repaid the loans.
Then you'd have to agree.

Anything you say/said against Clinton that started with
"PERHAPS"----isn't, or should not be taken as fact---but is
speculative and (in your case) SILLY
Mitchell Holman
2016-02-09 02:48:53 UTC
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Post by Joe Cooper
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Joe Cooper
Post by Mitchell Holman
.....is Ted Cruz
Let's follow the logic here.
1. Ted Cruz borrows a mil from GS, and that means GS "owns" him. The
loan was properly disclosed to the gov't in one document, neglected in
another, so that means Cruz "hid" the loan.
Ted Cruz is literally in bed with Goldman Sachs.
Is that why you deleted who his wife is?
Nope. His wife's job has nothing to do with the simple issue: Cruz
borrowed money, fully secured with assets.
Do you really expect President Cruz to lift a finger
against the bank his wife is a senior manager in?
Post by Joe Cooper
Cruz repaid the loans.
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Joe Cooper
2. Hillary Clinton is paid $650K for 3 private speeches, but GS does
not "own" her.
Hillary is not sleeping with Goldman Sachs.
$650,000 for three private speechs to GS staff, speeches for which
Hillary refuses to release the transcripts.
Huh?

Unless Hillary recorded her own speech
how would she have a transcript?

Did Romney record HIS "47% are takers"
speech?
Joe Cooper
2016-02-09 16:25:36 UTC
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Post by Mitchell Holman
Do you really expect President Cruz to lift a finger
against the bank his wife is a senior manager in?
Do you expect the 1st Lady of the United States will keep her job at GS?

Do you expect President Trump to lift a finger against the banks he owes
billions to?
--
Obama Nine Hours Before Paris Terror Attack: "We've Contained ISIS." ISIS:
"We've contained Obama."

"Never underestimate the willingness of white progressives to be offended
on behalf of people who aren’t and to impose their will on those who didn’t
ask for it." (Derek Hunter)

"No doubt Hillary would like to call [Paula] Jones a liar, but Bill paid
Jones $850,000 to settle her sexual harassment suit. Can you imagine the
fun Donald Trump, for one, would have with that? Plus, it was Bill Clinton,
not Paula Jones, who was found by the presiding federal judge to have
committed perjury."--John Hinderaker
k***@maricaibo.com
2016-02-09 10:36:20 UTC
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On Tue, 9 Feb 2016 16:25:36 -0000 (UTC), Joe Cooper
Post by Joe Cooper
Post by Mitchell Holman
Do you really expect President Cruz to lift a finger
against the bank his wife is a senior manager in?
Do you expect the 1st Lady of the United States will keep her job at GS?
what Job?

You making shit up again, (still), COOPERLOON?
Mitchell Holman
2016-02-09 19:45:49 UTC
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Post by Joe Cooper
Post by Mitchell Holman
Do you really expect President Cruz to lift a finger
against the bank his wife is a senior manager in?
Do you expect the 1st Lady of the United States will keep her job at GS?
Hillary and Cruz will both do what Goldman Sachs tells them to do.
Post by Joe Cooper
Do you expect President Trump to lift a finger against the banks he owes
billions to?
At least Trump is not paid puppet for GS.
Joe Cooper
2016-02-09 22:31:02 UTC
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Post by Mitchell Holman
Hillary and Cruz will both do what Goldman Sachs tells them to do.
But Trump, who owes Wall Street banks, won't?

It is to laugh.
--
Obama Nine Hours Before Paris Terror Attack: "We've Contained ISIS." ISIS:
"We've contained Obama."

"Never underestimate the willingness of white progressives to be offended
on behalf of people who aren’t and to impose their will on those who didn’t
ask for it." (Derek Hunter)

"No doubt Hillary would like to call [Paula] Jones a liar, but Bill paid
Jones $850,000 to settle her sexual harassment suit. Can you imagine the
fun Donald Trump, for one, would have with that? Plus, it was Bill Clinton,
not Paula Jones, who was found by the presiding federal judge to have
committed perjury."--John Hinderaker
Mitchell Holman
2016-02-10 02:49:16 UTC
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Post by Joe Cooper
Post by Mitchell Holman
Hillary and Cruz will both do what Goldman Sachs tells them to do.
But Trump, who owes Wall Street banks, won't?
How much money has Trump taken from GS?
Siri Cruz
2016-02-10 03:52:29 UTC
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Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Joe Cooper
Post by Mitchell Holman
Hillary and Cruz will both do what Goldman Sachs tells them to do.
But Trump, who owes Wall Street banks, won't?
How much money has Trump taken from GS?
More amusingly how much has he not returned?
--
:-<> Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-001. Disavowed. Denied. Deleted.
'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.'
God exists since mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists since we
cannot prove the consistency. ~~ Morris Kline
Joe Cooper
2016-02-10 17:54:19 UTC
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Post by Mitchell Holman
How much money has Trump taken from GS?
More to the point, how much money does Trump owe to banks?

<http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-net-worth-2015-6>

Liabilities - Loans & mortgages - Commercial & Residential & Club:

$502,760,000 ...of course, none of these banks have ANY influence
whatsoever over Donald Trump, right?
--
Obama Nine Hours Before Paris Terror Attack: "We've Contained ISIS." ISIS:
"We've contained Obama."

"Never underestimate the willingness of white progressives to be offended
on behalf of people who aren’t and to impose their will on those who didn’t
ask for it." (Derek Hunter)

"No doubt Hillary would like to call [Paula] Jones a liar, but Bill paid
Jones $850,000 to settle her sexual harassment suit. Can you imagine the
fun Donald Trump, for one, would have with that? Plus, it was Bill Clinton,
not Paula Jones, who was found by the presiding federal judge to have
committed perjury."--John Hinderaker
Mitchell Holman
2016-02-11 03:09:49 UTC
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Post by Joe Cooper
Post by Mitchell Holman
How much money has Trump taken from GS?
More to the point, how much money does Trump owe to banks?
How much does he owe to THAT bank?
Post by Joe Cooper
<http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-net-worth-2015-6>
$502,760,000 ...of course, none of these banks have ANY influence
whatsoever over Donald Trump, right?
Joe Cooper
2016-02-11 18:48:55 UTC
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Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Joe Cooper
Post by Mitchell Holman
How much money has Trump taken from GS?
More to the point, how much money does Trump owe to banks?
How much does he owe to THAT bank?
More to the point: Cruz owes GS nothing. Trump owes Wall Street billions
- GS is not listed as a creditor on his Liabilities statement.

Others who are listed include Ladder Capital Finance (over $50 mil),
Capital One (over $50 mil), Deutsche Bank (over $50 mil), Bank of NY,
Mellon Trust ($5-25 mil), Investors Savings Bank ($5-25 mil), Ladder
again ($5-25 mil), Amboy ($5-25 mil),Chevy Chase Trust ($5-25 mil), Royal
Bank America ($5-25 mil), UBS Real Estate Investments ($5-25 mil), Merril
Lynch CC ($5K to 750k), Chicago Unit Acquisition (Over $50 mil), Deutsche
Bank (3rd liability, over $50 mil)

So would you claim that none of these banks have any influence over Trump
and his business interests?

If so, might you be interested in an loverly orange bridge I might be
pursuaded to part with?
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Joe Cooper
<http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-net-worth-2015-6>
$502,760,000 ...of course, none of these banks have ANY influence
whatsoever over Donald Trump, right?
--
Obama Nine Hours Before Paris Terror Attack: "We've Contained ISIS."
ISIS: "We've contained Obama."

"Never underestimate the willingness of white progressives to be offended
on behalf of people who aren’t and to impose their will on those who
didn’t ask for it." (Derek Hunter)

"No doubt Hillary would like to call [Paula] Jones a liar, but Bill paid
Jones $850,000 to settle her sexual harassment suit. Can you imagine the
fun Donald Trump, for one, would have with that? Plus, it was Bill
Clinton, not Paula Jones, who was found by the presiding federal judge to
have committed perjury."--John Hinderaker
Vandar
2016-02-12 14:18:36 UTC
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Post by Joe Cooper
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Joe Cooper
Post by Mitchell Holman
How much money has Trump taken from GS?
More to the point, how much money does Trump owe to banks?
How much does he owe to THAT bank?
More to the point: Cruz owes GS nothing. Trump owes Wall Street billions
- GS is not listed as a creditor on his Liabilities statement.
Others who are listed include Ladder Capital Finance (over $50 mil),
Capital One (over $50 mil), Deutsche Bank (over $50 mil), Bank of NY,
Mellon Trust ($5-25 mil), Investors Savings Bank ($5-25 mil), Ladder
again ($5-25 mil), Amboy ($5-25 mil),Chevy Chase Trust ($5-25 mil), Royal
Bank America ($5-25 mil), UBS Real Estate Investments ($5-25 mil), Merril
Lynch CC ($5K to 750k), Chicago Unit Acquisition (Over $50 mil), Deutsche
Bank (3rd liability, over $50 mil)
So would you claim that none of these banks have any influence over Trump
and his business interests?
Does your mortgage company influence your business decisions?
(it shouldn't)
Joe Cooper
2016-02-12 19:29:32 UTC
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Post by Vandar
Does your mortgage company influence your business decisions?
(it shouldn't)
I don't have a mortgage. I own my home.
--
Obama Nine Hours Before Paris Terror Attack: "We've Contained ISIS." ISIS:
"We've contained Obama."

"Never underestimate the willingness of white progressives to be offended
on behalf of people who aren’t and to impose their will on those who didn’t
ask for it." (Derek Hunter)

"No doubt Hillary would like to call [Paula] Jones a liar, but Bill paid
Jones $850,000 to settle her sexual harassment suit. Can you imagine the
fun Donald Trump, for one, would have with that? Plus, it was Bill Clinton,
not Paula Jones, who was found by the presiding federal judge to have
committed perjury."--John Hinderaker
k***@maricaibo.com
2016-02-12 21:19:23 UTC
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On Fri, 12 Feb 2016 19:29:32 -0000 (UTC), Joe Cooper
Post by Joe Cooper
Post by Vandar
Does your mortgage company influence your business decisions?
(it shouldn't)
I don't have a mortgage. I own my home.
I suppose grass isn't very expensive......
PaxPerPoten
2016-02-12 23:15:21 UTC
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Post by k***@maricaibo.com
On Fri, 12 Feb 2016 19:29:32 -0000 (UTC), Joe Cooper
Post by Joe Cooper
Post by Vandar
Does your mortgage company influence your business decisions?
(it shouldn't)
I don't have a mortgage. I own my home.
I suppose grass isn't very expensive......
You should know..You smoke enough of it before posting.
--
It is hardly too strong to say that the Constitution was made to guard
the people against the dangers of good intentions. There are men in all
ages who mean to govern well, but *They mean to govern*. They promise to
be good masters, *but they mean to be masters*. Daniel Webster
k***@maricaibo.com
2016-02-13 04:28:25 UTC
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Post by PaxPerPoten
Post by k***@maricaibo.com
On Fri, 12 Feb 2016 19:29:32 -0000 (UTC), Joe Cooper
Post by Joe Cooper
Post by Vandar
Does your mortgage company influence your business decisions?
(it shouldn't)
I don't have a mortgage. I own my home.
I suppose grass isn't very expensive......
You should know..You smoke enough of it before posting.
If you know that---you need to discuss the size of the asshole you're
peering out of. Seems to be larger than normal.
Post by PaxPerPoten
=====================================================================
Vanishing Wussboy ignores


Increase/Decrease National Debt

Carter -3/3%

Reagan 1 +11.3%
Reagan 2 +9.3 %

Bush +15%

Clinton -.7%
Clinton -9%

Dumbya +7%
Dumbya + 20%

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_debt_by_U.S._presidential_terms

TreasuryDirect:

09/30/2010 13,561,623,030,891.79
09/30/2009 11,909,829,003,511.75
09/30/2008 10,024,724,896,912.49
09/30/2007 9,007,653,372,262.48
09/30/2006 8,506,973,899,215.23
09/30/2005 7,932,709,661,723.50
09/30/2004 7,379,052,696,330.32
09/30/2003 6,783,231,062,743.62
09/30/2002 6,228,235,965,597.16
09/30/2001 5,807,463,412,200.06
09/30/2000 5,674,178,209,886.86
Post by PaxPerPoten
===============================================================
The public debt on 9/30/1981 (Mr. Carter's last budget year) was
$997,855,000,000.00.

The public debt on 9/29/1989 (Mr. Reagan's last budget year) was
$2,857,430,960,187.32.

Mr. Reagan added $1,859,575,960,187.32 to the public debt.

The public debt on 9/30/1993 (Mr. Bush's - the elder - last budget
year) was $4,411,488,883,139.38.

Mr. Bush added $1,554,057,922,952.06 to the public debt.


The public debt on 9/30/2001 (Mr. Clinton's last budget year) was
$5,807,463,412,200.06.

Mr. Clinton added $1,395,974,529,060.68 to the public debt.


The public debt on 9/30/2009 (Mr. Bush's last budget year) was
$11,909,829,003,511.70.

Mr. Bush added $6,102,365,591,311.64 to the public debt.

The public debt on 3/3/2011 was $14,182,086,199,057.00.

Mr. Obama has added $2,272,257,195,545.30 to the public debt.

Of the $13.184 trillion dollar debt added since (and not including)
Mr. Carter, the Republican administrations have added $9.516 trillion
(72.2%) and the Democratic presidents have added $3.668 trillion
(27.8%).
Post by PaxPerPoten
From 1994-2007--YOUR republicans created some of the WORST economic
and domestic policy in our history by deregulation, oversight failure,
and tax cuts, while kissing Bush's ass for everything.
Beam Me Up Scotty
2016-02-13 02:36:54 UTC
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Post by k***@maricaibo.com
On Fri, 12 Feb 2016 19:29:32 -0000 (UTC), Joe Cooper
Post by Joe Cooper
Post by Vandar
Does your mortgage company influence your business decisions?
(it shouldn't)
I don't have a mortgage. I own my home.
I suppose grass isn't very expensive......
Guess again, grass for your cat/dog to chew on in the house will cost
$7.00 for a small container.
--
That's Karma

If a marriage license *can't* tell you who you *must marry*
depending on sexual identity... how can a business license tell
you who you *Must engage in commerce with* depending on sexual
identity?

*Liberalism is unsustainable, self destructive and contradicting*
k***@maricaibo.com
2016-02-13 04:28:53 UTC
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On Fri, 12 Feb 2016 21:36:54 -0500, Beam Me Up Scotty
Post by Beam Me Up Scotty
Post by k***@maricaibo.com
On Fri, 12 Feb 2016 19:29:32 -0000 (UTC), Joe Cooper
Post by Joe Cooper
Post by Vandar
Does your mortgage company influence your business decisions?
(it shouldn't)
I don't have a mortgage. I own my home.
I suppose grass isn't very expensive......
Guess again, grass for your cat/dog to chew on in the house will cost
$7.00 for a small container.
Buy a lot of it, do you?
Mitchell Holman
2016-02-13 02:48:04 UTC
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Post by Joe Cooper
"No doubt Hillary would like to call [Paula] Jones a liar, but Bill
paid Jones $850,000 to settle her sexual harassment suit. Can you
imagine the fun Donald Trump, for one, would have with that?
Just imagine the difficulty of Republicans having
to campaign for a womanizing draft dodging adulterer
after years of accusing Clinton of being just that.

So much for conservative consistency...........;)
PaxPerPoten
2016-02-13 06:02:16 UTC
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Post by Joe Cooper
"No doubt Hillary would like to call [Paula] Jones a liar, but Bill
paid Jones $850,000 to settle her sexual harassment suit. Can you
imagine the fun Donald Trump, for one, would have with that?
Just for informational use:
Trump is a Military academy graduate.
Post by Mitchell Holman
Just imagine the difficulty of Republicans having
to campaign for a womanizing draft dodging adulterer
after years of accusing Clinton of being just that.
And who would that be? You dodged the draft and yet you dain to
criticize others [-(
Post by Mitchell Holman
So much for conservative consistency...........;)
So much for lefty bullshit!
--
It is hardly too strong to say that the Constitution was made to guard
the people against the dangers of good intentions. There are men in all
ages who mean to govern well, but *They mean to govern*. They promise to
be good masters, *but they mean to be masters*. Daniel Webster
Mitchell Holman
2016-02-13 15:00:19 UTC
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Post by PaxPerPoten
Post by Joe Cooper
"No doubt Hillary would like to call [Paula] Jones a liar, but Bill
paid Jones $850,000 to settle her sexual harassment suit. Can you
imagine the fun Donald Trump, for one, would have with that?
Trump is a Military academy graduate.
Trump gamed the system to dodge the draft
(three different types of deferments, no less)
with a grace even fellow chickenhawks Dick Cheney
and Rush Limbaugh could not muster.


http://tinyurl.com/3udk9eh
PaxPerPoten
2016-02-14 06:52:32 UTC
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Post by PaxPerPoten
Post by Joe Cooper
"No doubt Hillary would like to call [Paula] Jones a liar, but Bill
paid Jones $850,000 to settle her sexual harassment suit. Can you
imagine the fun Donald Trump, for one, would have with that?
Trump is a Military academy graduate.
Trump gamed the system to dodge the draft
(three different types of deferments, no less)
with a grace even fellow chickenhawks Dick Cheney
and Rush Limbaugh could not muster.
And you served where? I thought not! You have not paid any dues to allow
you to criticize others. We have discussed your yellowness before.
--
It is hardly too strong to say that the Constitution was made to guard
the people against the dangers of good intentions. There are men in all
ages who mean to govern well, but *They mean to govern*. They promise to
be good masters, *but they mean to be masters*. Daniel Webster
Mitchell Holman
2016-02-14 13:53:17 UTC
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Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by PaxPerPoten
Post by Joe Cooper
"No doubt Hillary would like to call [Paula] Jones a liar, but Bill
paid Jones $850,000 to settle her sexual harassment suit. Can you
imagine the fun Donald Trump, for one, would have with that?
Trump is a Military academy graduate.
Trump gamed the system to dodge the draft
(three different types of deferments, no less)
with a grace even fellow chickenhawks Dick Cheney
and Rush Limbaugh could not muster.
And you served where?
I opposed the war and did everything legal
to stay out of it, your Republican heroes SUPPORTED
the war from the safety of their dorm rooms. See
the difference?



"I do -- I do -- I do -- I do -- what any normal person
would do at that age. You call home. You call home to
mother and father and say, "I'd like to get into the
National Guard."
Senator Dan Quayle, 8/19/88, regarding his draft notice.
PaxPerPoten
2016-02-14 21:14:34 UTC
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Post by PaxPerPoten
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by PaxPerPoten
Post by Joe Cooper
"No doubt Hillary would like to call [Paula] Jones a liar, but Bill
paid Jones $850,000 to settle her sexual harassment suit. Can you
imagine the fun Donald Trump, for one, would have with that?
Trump is a Military academy graduate.
Trump gamed the system to dodge the draft
(three different types of deferments, no less)
with a grace even fellow chickenhawks Dick Cheney
and Rush Limbaugh could not muster.
So you knock trump and actually you are the yellow bellied coward that
hid behind Mamma's skirts when it cam time to do your duty.
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by PaxPerPoten
And you served where?
I opposed the war and did everything legal
to stay out of it, your Republican heroes SUPPORTED
the war from the safety of their dorm rooms. See
the difference?
Nice twist you piece of Fecal material.. That was as usual a war created
by Democrats. Fact of the matter is you were too yellow to serve the
country that has kept you safe. It is so sad that good men died and a
bastard like you lives on. Kennedy was murdered by the Democrat Lyndon
Baines Johnson because he opposed any Asian war. The Democrat War
profiteering machine rolled right into Vietnam. I wonder if you were not
one of the scumbags that made money on the deaths of others.
--
It is hardly too strong to say that the Constitution was made to guard
the people against the dangers of good intentions. There are men in all
ages who mean to govern well, but *They mean to govern*. They promise to
be good masters, *but they mean to be masters*. Daniel Webster
k***@maricaibo.com
2016-02-14 23:15:36 UTC
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Post by PaxPerPoten
Post by Mitchell Holman
Trump gamed the system to dodge the draft
(three different types of deferments, no less)
with a grace even fellow chickenhawks Dick Cheney
and Rush Limbaugh could not muster.
So you knock trump and actually you are the yellow bellied coward that
hid behind Mamma's skirts when it cam time to do your duty.
By "doing yer duty"---do you mean about 90% of the Republican
politicians didn't do either?
PaxPerPoten
2016-02-15 06:33:36 UTC
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Post by PaxPerPoten
Post by Mitchell Holman
Trump gamed the system to dodge the draft
(three different types of deferments, no less)
with a grace even fellow chickenhawks Dick Cheney
and Rush Limbaugh could not muster.
So you knock trump and actually you are the yellow bellied coward that
hid behind Mamma's skirts when it cam time to do your duty.
By "doing yer duty"---do you mean about 90% of the Republican
politicians didn't do ei
Not a Word from you, Gary...The hard working Republicans of South Dakota
pay for your subsidized rent, Your Food stamps, and your medical.
You are nothing but an ungrateful deadbeat!
--
It is hardly too strong to say that the Constitution was made to guard
the people against the dangers of good intentions. There are men in all
ages who mean to govern well, but *They mean to govern*. They promise to
be good masters, *but they mean to be masters*. Daniel Webster
Mitchell Holman
2016-02-17 02:47:52 UTC
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Kennedy was murdered by the Democrat Lyndon
Baines Johnson because he opposed any Asian war.
Wow.

You really believe that?
PaxPerPoten
2016-02-17 05:44:37 UTC
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Post by PaxPerPoten
Kennedy was murdered by the Democrat Lyndon
Baines Johnson because he opposed any Asian war.
Wow.
You really believe that?
I also believe you and Gary are Butt buddies.
--
It is hardly too strong to say that the Constitution was made to guard
the people against the dangers of good intentions. There are men in all
ages who mean to govern well, but *They mean to govern*. They promise to
be good masters, *but they mean to be masters*. Daniel Webster
Vandar
2016-02-13 13:42:39 UTC
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Post by Vandar
Does your mortgage company influence your business decisions?
(it shouldn't)
I don't have a mortgage. I own my home.
It's hypothetical. I'm asking if you owned a business that had a
mortgage, would you let the mortgage lender influence the course of your
business?
Joe Cooper
2016-02-13 18:26:29 UTC
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Post by Vandar
It's hypothetical. I'm asking if you owned a business that had a
mortgage, would you let the mortgage lender influence the course of your
business?
If the mortgage holder is concerned about your finances, and you owe them
millions, yes, he WILL intervene if necessary, and WILL influence your
business.
--
Obama Nine Hours Before Paris Terror Attack: "We've Contained ISIS." ISIS:
"We've contained Obama."

"Never underestimate the willingness of white progressives to be offended
on behalf of people who aren’t and to impose their will on those who didn’t
ask for it." (Derek Hunter)

"No doubt Hillary would like to call [Paula] Jones a liar, but Bill paid
Jones $850,000 to settle her sexual harassment suit. Can you imagine the
fun Donald Trump, for one, would have with that? Plus, it was Bill Clinton,
not Paula Jones, who was found by the presiding federal judge to have
committed perjury."--John Hinderaker
Beam Me Up Scotty
2016-02-14 16:03:58 UTC
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Post by Joe Cooper
Post by Vandar
It's hypothetical. I'm asking if you owned a business that had a
mortgage, would you let the mortgage lender influence the course of your
business?
If the mortgage holder is concerned about your finances, and you owe them
millions, yes, he WILL intervene if necessary, and WILL influence your
business.
You can be *REQUIRED* to carry insurance on the property that the loan
is for.... example is a a car loan may require you have collision
insurance or a Mortgage may force you to carry some insurance on the
house.
--
That's Karma

If a marriage license *can't* tell you who you *must marry*
depending on sexual identity... how can a business license tell
you who you *Must engage in commerce with* depending on sexual
identity?

*Liberalism is unsustainable, self destructive and contradicting*
Vandar
2016-02-12 14:16:48 UTC
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Post by Joe Cooper
Post by Mitchell Holman
How much money has Trump taken from GS?
More to the point, how much money does Trump owe to banks?
<http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-net-worth-2015-6>
$502,760,000 ...of course, none of these banks have ANY influence
whatsoever over Donald Trump, right?
Liabilities does not equal "money owed to banks".

https://www.scribd.com/fullscreen/272293568?access_key=key-HKjk1QnVvOVEAmMSAON2&allow_share=true&escape=false&view_mode=scroll

None of his liabilities is to Goldman Sachs
PaxPerPoten
2016-02-10 03:57:58 UTC
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Post by Mitchell Holman
Hillary and Cruz will both do what Goldman Sachs tells them to do.
But Trump, who owes Wall Street banks, won't?
It is to laugh
If you owe the Bank a few $billion..You own them. They will call Mr
Trump ..Sir!
Do keep in mind that Trumps investor include many Rich Royalty Arabs and
Jews..etc. What Banker would be foolish enough to aggravate that following?
--
It is hardly too strong to say that the Constitution was made to guard
the people against the dangers of good intentions. There are men in all
ages who mean to govern well, but *They mean to govern*. They promise to
be good masters, *but they mean to be masters*. Daniel Webster
Salty Stan
2016-02-09 23:10:25 UTC
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Post by Joe Cooper
Post by Mitchell Holman
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Post by Mitchell Holman
.....is Ted Cruz
Let's follow the logic here.
1. Ted Cruz borrows a mil from GS, and that means GS "owns" him. The
loan was properly disclosed to the gov't in one document, neglected
in
Post by Joe Cooper
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Joe Cooper
another, so that means Cruz "hid" the loan.
Ted Cruz is literally in bed with Goldman Sachs.
Is that why you deleted who his wife is?
Nope. His wife's job has nothing to do with the simple issue: Cruz
borrowed money, fully secured with assets.
Do you really expect President Cruz to lift a finger
against the bank his wife is a senior manager in?
Post by Joe Cooper
Cruz repaid the loans.
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Joe Cooper
2. Hillary Clinton is paid $650K for 3 private speeches, but GS does
not "own" her.
Hillary is not sleeping with Goldman Sachs.
$650,000 for three private speechs to GS staff, speeches for which
Hillary refuses to release the transcripts.
Huh?
Unless Hillary recorded her own speech
how would she have a transcript?
Wait a sec...are you saying you believe Hillary doesn't have a transcript of her own speeches?

Really?
Post by Mitchell Holman
Did Romney record HIS "47% are takers"
speech?
someone else
2016-02-10 00:30:35 UTC
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Post by Mitchell Holman
Unless Hillary recorded her own speech
how would she have a transcript?
Wait a sec...are you saying
Someone else might notice that you are answering a question with another
question, so that you could avoid answering a comparison
Post by Salty Stan
Post by Mitchell Holman
Did Romney record HIS "47% are takers"
speech?
Someone else might think that you're running away again
Mitchell Holman
2016-02-10 02:50:12 UTC
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Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Joe Cooper
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Joe Cooper
Post by Mitchell Holman
.....is Ted Cruz
Let's follow the logic here.
1. Ted Cruz borrows a mil from GS, and that means GS "owns" him.
The loan was properly disclosed to the gov't in one document,
neglected
in
Post by Joe Cooper
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Joe Cooper
another, so that means Cruz "hid" the loan.
Ted Cruz is literally in bed with Goldman Sachs.
Is that why you deleted who his wife is?
Nope. His wife's job has nothing to do with the simple issue: Cruz
borrowed money, fully secured with assets.
Do you really expect President Cruz to lift a finger
against the bank his wife is a senior manager in?
Post by Joe Cooper
Cruz repaid the loans.
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Joe Cooper
2. Hillary Clinton is paid $650K for 3 private speeches, but GS
does not "own" her.
Hillary is not sleeping with Goldman Sachs.
$650,000 for three private speechs to GS staff, speeches for which
Hillary refuses to release the transcripts.
Huh?
Unless Hillary recorded her own speech
how would she have a transcript?
Wait a sec...are you saying you believe Hillary doesn't have a
transcript of her own speeches?
Does she?

Prove it.
Salty Stan
2016-02-10 14:18:53 UTC
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Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Salty Stan
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Post by Joe Cooper
$650,000 for three private speechs to GS staff, speeches for which
Hillary refuses to release the transcripts.
Huh?
Unless Hillary recorded her own speech
how would she have a transcript?
Wait a sec...are you saying you believe Hillary doesn't have a
transcript of her own speeches?
Does she?
Prove it.
Do you think Hillary doesn't write her own speeches beforehand (or more likely, have them written for her), and review them before speaking?

Or do you think she just walks in without a prepared speech, then makes up what she says as she goes along?

Is THAT what you're suggesting?

Incredible...
Mitchell Holman
2016-02-10 14:36:42 UTC
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ss
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Post by Joe Cooper
$650,000 for three private speechs to GS staff, speeches for
which Hillary refuses to release the transcripts.
Huh?
Unless Hillary recorded her own speech
how would she have a transcript?
Wait a sec...are you saying you believe Hillary doesn't have a
transcript of her own speeches?
Does she?
Prove it.
Do you think Hillary doesn't write her own speeches beforehand (or
more likely, have them written for her), and review them before
speaking?
Most speeches are with a few hand cards
for the local introductions and some bullet
points, then a a Q & A session. No one bothers
to make (much less keep) a transcript of that.

But humor us and prove that such a transcript
exists.
Post by Salty Stan
Or do you think she just walks in without a prepared speech, then
makes up what she says as she goes along?
Did Romney make and keep a transcript
of his "47% takers" speech? Where is it and
why is he hiding it?
Salty Stan
2016-02-10 15:01:19 UTC
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Post by Salty Stan
ss
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Salty Stan
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Joe Cooper
$650,000 for three private speechs to GS staff, speeches for
which Hillary refuses to release the transcripts.
Huh?
Unless Hillary recorded her own speech
how would she have a transcript?
Wait a sec...are you saying you believe Hillary doesn't have a
transcript of her own speeches?
Does she?
Prove it.
Do you think Hillary doesn't write her own speeches beforehand (or
more likely, have them written for her), and review them before
speaking?
Most speeches are with a few hand cards
for the local introductions and some bullet
points, then a a Q & A session. No one bothers
to make (much less keep) a transcript of that.
You honestly believe there are no transcripts of her speech at Goldman Sachs? Seriously?
Post by Mitchell Holman
But humor us and prove that such a transcript
exists.
Tell me again just why would I want to do that?
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Salty Stan
Or do you think she just walks in without a prepared speech, then
makes up what she says as she goes along?
Did Romney make and keep a transcript
of his "47% takers" speech? Where is it and
why is he hiding it?
Mitchell Holman
2016-02-11 00:19:37 UTC
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Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Salty Stan
ss
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Salty Stan
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Joe Cooper
$650,000 for three private speechs to GS staff, speeches for
which Hillary refuses to release the transcripts.
Huh?
Unless Hillary recorded her own speech
how would she have a transcript?
Wait a sec...are you saying you believe Hillary doesn't have a
transcript of her own speeches?
Does she?
Prove it.
Do you think Hillary doesn't write her own speeches beforehand (or
more likely, have them written for her), and review them before
speaking?
Most speeches are with a few hand cards
for the local introductions and some bullet
points, then a a Q & A session. No one bothers
to make (much less keep) a transcript of that.
You honestly believe there are no transcripts of her speech at
Goldman Sachs? Seriously?
Prove that such a transcript was ever made.
Post by Salty Stan
Post by Mitchell Holman
But humor us and prove that such a transcript
exists.
Tell me again just why would I want to do that?
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Salty Stan
Or do you think she just walks in without a prepared speech, then
makes up what she says as she goes along?
Did Romney make and keep a transcript
of his "47% takers" speech? Where is it and
why is he hiding it?
Well?
Salty Stan
2016-02-11 14:26:36 UTC
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ss
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Post by Joe Cooper
$650,000 for three private speechs to GS staff, speeches for
which Hillary refuses to release the transcripts.
Huh?
Unless Hillary recorded her own speech
how would she have a transcript?
Wait a sec...are you saying you believe Hillary doesn't have a
transcript of her own speeches?
Does she?
Prove it.
Do you think Hillary doesn't write her own speeches beforehand (or
more likely, have them written for her), and review them before
speaking?
Most speeches are with a few hand cards
for the local introductions and some bullet
points, then a a Q & A session. No one bothers
to make (much less keep) a transcript of that.
You honestly believe there are no transcripts of her speech at
Goldman Sachs? Seriously?
The answer is yes or no.
Post by Mitchell Holman
Prove that such a transcript was ever made.
Prove to whom? Anyone here really think Hillary doesn't have transcripts of her own speeches?

(Besides you, apparently)
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Salty Stan
Post by Mitchell Holman
But humor us and prove that such a transcript
exists.
Tell me again just why would I want to do that?
Well?
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Salty Stan
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Salty Stan
Or do you think she just walks in without a prepared speech, then
makes up what she says as she goes along?
Did Romney make and keep a transcript
of his "47% takers" speech? Where is it and
why is he hiding it?
Well?
I don't recall any speech of Romney's using the phrase "47% takers". Are you sure about that?
someone else
2016-02-11 14:47:33 UTC
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Post by Salty Stan
Post by Mitchell Holman
Did Romney make and keep a transcript
of his "47% takers" speech? Where is it and
why is he hiding it?
Well?
I don't recall any speech of Romney's using the phrase "47% takers"
Someone else thinks that you might not want to recall that fact



Mitchell Holman
2016-02-11 14:52:08 UTC
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ss
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Post by Joe Cooper
$650,000 for three private speechs to GS staff, speeches
for which Hillary refuses to release the transcripts.
Huh?
Unless Hillary recorded her own speech
how would she have a transcript?
Wait a sec...are you saying you believe Hillary doesn't have
a transcript of her own speeches?
Does she?
Prove it.
Do you think Hillary doesn't write her own speeches beforehand
(or more likely, have them written for her), and review them
before speaking?
Most speeches are with a few hand cards
for the local introductions and some bullet
points, then a a Q & A session. No one bothers
to make (much less keep) a transcript of that.
You honestly believe there are no transcripts of her speech at
Goldman Sachs? Seriously?
The answer is yes or no.
Post by Mitchell Holman
Prove that such a transcript was ever made.
Prove to whom? Anyone here really think Hillary doesn't have
transcripts of her own speeches?
This is your unproven claim.
Post by Salty Stan
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Salty Stan
Post by Mitchell Holman
But humor us and prove that such a transcript
exists.
Tell me again just why would I want to do that?
Well?
You are the one claiming there are transcripts
of Hillary's speechs to GS. Prove it.
Post by Salty Stan
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Salty Stan
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Salty Stan
Or do you think she just walks in without a prepared speech,
then makes up what she says as she goes along?
Did Romney make and keep a transcript
of his "47% takers" speech? Where is it and
why is he hiding it?
Well?
I don't recall any speech of Romney's using the phrase "47% takers".
Are you sure about that?
http://youtu.be/M2gvY2wqI7M
Salty Stan
2016-02-11 15:10:23 UTC
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ss
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Salty Stan
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Joe Cooper
$650,000 for three private speechs to GS staff, speeches
for which Hillary refuses to release the transcripts.
Huh?
Unless Hillary recorded her own speech
how would she have a transcript?
Wait a sec...are you saying you believe Hillary doesn't have
a transcript of her own speeches?
Does she?
Prove it.
Do you think Hillary doesn't write her own speeches beforehand
(or more likely, have them written for her), and review them
before speaking?
Most speeches are with a few hand cards
for the local introductions and some bullet
points, then a a Q & A session. No one bothers
to make (much less keep) a transcript of that.
You honestly believe there are no transcripts of her speech at
Goldman Sachs? Seriously?
The answer is yes or no.
Post by Mitchell Holman
Prove that such a transcript was ever made.
Prove to whom? Anyone here really think Hillary doesn't have
transcripts of her own speeches?
This is your unproven claim.
If you really think Hillary doesn't have transcripts of her own speeches, then just say so, and I'll Google the proof for you.
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Salty Stan
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Salty Stan
Post by Mitchell Holman
But humor us and prove that such a transcript
exists.
Tell me again just why would I want to do that?
Well?
You are the one claiming there are transcripts
of Hillary's speechs to GS. Prove it.
Tell me again just why would I want to do that?

No one doubts that.
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Salty Stan
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Salty Stan
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Salty Stan
Or do you think she just walks in without a prepared speech,
then makes up what she says as she goes along?
Did Romney make and keep a transcript
of his "47% takers" speech? Where is it and
why is he hiding it?
Well?
I don't recall any speech of Romney's using the phrase "47% takers".
Are you sure about that?
http://youtu.be/M2gvY2wqI7M
someone else
2016-02-11 15:32:38 UTC
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Post by Mitchell Holman
You are the one claiming there are transcripts
of Hillary's speechs to GS. Prove it.
Tell me again just why would I want to do that?
Because someone else might doubt the veracity of your claim?
Post by Salty Stan
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Salty Stan
I don't recall any speech of Romney's using the phrase "47% takers".
Are you sure about that?
http://youtu.be/M2gvY2wqI7M
Someone else might notice that you avoided the facts, again
Mitchell Holman
2016-02-11 20:12:46 UTC
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Post by Joe Cooper
$650,000 for three private speechs to GS staff,
speeches for which Hillary refuses to release the
transcripts.
Huh?
Unless Hillary recorded her own speech
how would she have a transcript?
Wait a sec...are you saying you believe Hillary doesn't
have a transcript of her own speeches?
Does she?
Prove it.
Do you think Hillary doesn't write her own speeches
beforehand (or more likely, have them written for her), and
review them before speaking?
Most speeches are with a few hand cards
for the local introductions and some bullet
points, then a a Q & A session. No one bothers
to make (much less keep) a transcript of that.
You honestly believe there are no transcripts of her speech at
Goldman Sachs? Seriously?
The answer is yes or no.
Post by Mitchell Holman
Prove that such a transcript was ever made.
Prove to whom? Anyone here really think Hillary doesn't have
transcripts of her own speeches?
This is your unproven claim.
If you really think Hillary doesn't have transcripts of her own
speeches, then just say so, and I'll Google the proof for you.
If you have transcripts of these Hillary
GS speeches why you are asking for me to
provide them?
Post by Salty Stan
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Salty Stan
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Salty Stan
Post by Mitchell Holman
But humor us and prove that such a transcript
exists.
Tell me again just why would I want to do that?
Well?
You are the one claiming there are transcripts
of Hillary's speechs to GS. Prove it.
Tell me again just why would I want to do that?
No one doubts that.
I do. Back up your claim that transcripts of
these GS speeches exist
Post by Salty Stan
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Post by Salty Stan
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Salty Stan
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Salty Stan
Or do you think she just walks in without a prepared speech,
then makes up what she says as she goes along?
Did Romney make and keep a transcript
of his "47% takers" speech? Where is it and
why is he hiding it?
Well?
I don't recall any speech of Romney's using the phrase "47%
takers". Are you sure about that?
http://youtu.be/M2gvY2wqI7M
Case closed on that one............;)
Salty Stan
2016-02-11 20:32:59 UTC
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On Tuesday, February 9, 2016 at 9:50:14 PM UTC-5, Mitchell
ss
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Salty Stan
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Joe Cooper
$650,000 for three private speechs to GS staff,
speeches for which Hillary refuses to release the
transcripts.
Huh?
Unless Hillary recorded her own speech
how would she have a transcript?
Wait a sec...are you saying you believe Hillary doesn't
have a transcript of her own speeches?
Does she?
Prove it.
Do you think Hillary doesn't write her own speeches
beforehand (or more likely, have them written for her), and
review them before speaking?
Most speeches are with a few hand cards
for the local introductions and some bullet
points, then a a Q & A session. No one bothers
to make (much less keep) a transcript of that.
You honestly believe there are no transcripts of her speech at
Goldman Sachs? Seriously?
The answer is yes or no.
Post by Mitchell Holman
Prove that such a transcript was ever made.
Prove to whom? Anyone here really think Hillary doesn't have
transcripts of her own speeches?
This is your unproven claim.
If you really think Hillary doesn't have transcripts of her own
speeches, then just say so, and I'll Google the proof for you.
If you have transcripts of these Hillary
GS speeches why you are asking for me to
provide them?
No, I'm asking if you really, honestly believe Hillary doesn't have transcripts of her own speeches.
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Salty Stan
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Salty Stan
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Salty Stan
Post by Mitchell Holman
But humor us and prove that such a transcript
exists.
Tell me again just why would I want to do that?
Well?
You are the one claiming there are transcripts
of Hillary's speechs to GS. Prove it.
Tell me again just why would I want to do that?
No one doubts that.
I do.
Just you?
Post by Mitchell Holman
Back up your claim that transcripts of
these GS speeches exist
And if I do, then what?
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Salty Stan
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Salty Stan
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Salty Stan
Post by Mitchell Holman
Or do you think she just walks in without a prepared speech,
then makes up what she says as she goes along?
Did Romney make and keep a transcript
of his "47% takers" speech? Where is it and
why is he hiding it?
Well?
I don't recall any speech of Romney's using the phrase "47%
takers". Are you sure about that?
http://youtu.be/M2gvY2wqI7M
Case closed on that one............;)
Salty Stan
2016-02-11 20:36:38 UTC
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Post by Salty Stan
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Salty Stan
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Salty Stan
Post by Mitchell Holman
On Wednesday, February 10, 2016 at 9:36:44 AM UTC-5, Mitchell
Post by Mitchell Holman
On Tuesday, February 9, 2016 at 9:50:14 PM UTC-5, Mitchell
ss
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Salty Stan
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Joe Cooper
$650,000 for three private speechs to GS staff,
speeches for which Hillary refuses to release the
transcripts.
Huh?
Unless Hillary recorded her own speech
how would she have a transcript?
Wait a sec...are you saying you believe Hillary doesn't
have a transcript of her own speeches?
Does she?
Prove it.
Do you think Hillary doesn't write her own speeches
beforehand (or more likely, have them written for her), and
review them before speaking?
Most speeches are with a few hand cards
for the local introductions and some bullet
points, then a a Q & A session. No one bothers
to make (much less keep) a transcript of that.
You honestly believe there are no transcripts of her speech at
Goldman Sachs? Seriously?
The answer is yes or no.
Post by Mitchell Holman
Prove that such a transcript was ever made.
Prove to whom? Anyone here really think Hillary doesn't have
transcripts of her own speeches?
This is your unproven claim.
If you really think Hillary doesn't have transcripts of her own
speeches, then just say so, and I'll Google the proof for you.
If you have transcripts of these Hillary
GS speeches why you are asking for me to
provide them?
No, I'm asking if you really, honestly believe Hillary doesn't have transcripts of her own speeches.
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Salty Stan
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Salty Stan
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Mitchell Holman
But humor us and prove that such a transcript
exists.
Tell me again just why would I want to do that?
Well?
You are the one claiming there are transcripts
of Hillary's speechs to GS. Prove it.
Tell me again just why would I want to do that?
No one doubts that.
I do.
Just you?
Post by Mitchell Holman
Back up your claim that transcripts of
these GS speeches exist
And if I do, then what?
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Salty Stan
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Salty Stan
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Mitchell Holman
Or do you think she just walks in without a prepared speech,
then makes up what she says as she goes along?
Did Romney make and keep a transcript
of his "47% takers" speech? Where is it and
why is he hiding it?
Well?
I don't recall any speech of Romney's using the phrase "47%
takers". Are you sure about that?
http://youtu.be/M2gvY2wqI7M
Case closed on that one............;)
p.s. just as an FYI I did a Google search on this:

"Hillary transcripts Goldman Sachs"

and got a quarter million hits.
someone else
2016-02-11 21:41:11 UTC
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Post by Salty Stan
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Salty Stan
I don't recall any speech of Romney's using the phrase "47%
takers". Are you sure about that?
http://youtu.be/M2gvY2wqI7M
Case closed on that one............;)
"Hillary transcripts Goldman Sachs"
Someone else might think that you're mistakenly reading too much into
your search results from using those keywords with Google


https://www.google.com/#q=%22Hillary+transcripts+Goldman+Sachs%22


No results found for "Hillary transcripts Goldman Sachs".
Mitchell Holman
2016-02-11 21:53:42 UTC
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Post by Salty Stan
Post by Salty Stan
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Salty Stan
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Salty Stan
Post by Mitchell Holman
On Wednesday, February 10, 2016 at 9:36:44 AM UTC-5,
Post by Mitchell Holman
On Tuesday, February 9, 2016 at 9:50:14 PM UTC-5,
ss
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Salty Stan
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Joe Cooper
$650,000 for three private speechs to GS staff,
speeches for which Hillary refuses to release the
transcripts.
Huh?
Unless Hillary recorded her own speech
how would she have a transcript?
Wait a sec...are you saying you believe Hillary
doesn't have a transcript of her own speeches?
Does she?
Prove it.
Do you think Hillary doesn't write her own speeches
beforehand (or more likely, have them written for her),
and review them before speaking?
Most speeches are with a few hand cards
for the local introductions and some bullet
points, then a a Q & A session. No one bothers
to make (much less keep) a transcript of that.
You honestly believe there are no transcripts of her speech
at Goldman Sachs? Seriously?
The answer is yes or no.
Post by Mitchell Holman
Prove that such a transcript was ever made.
Prove to whom? Anyone here really think Hillary doesn't have
transcripts of her own speeches?
This is your unproven claim.
If you really think Hillary doesn't have transcripts of her own
speeches, then just say so, and I'll Google the proof for you.
If you have transcripts of these Hillary
GS speeches why you are asking for me to
provide them?
No, I'm asking if you really, honestly believe Hillary doesn't have
transcripts of her own speeches.
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Salty Stan
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Salty Stan
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Mitchell Holman
But humor us and prove that such a transcript
exists.
Tell me again just why would I want to do that?
Well?
You are the one claiming there are transcripts
of Hillary's speechs to GS. Prove it.
Tell me again just why would I want to do that?
No one doubts that.
I do.
Just you?
Post by Mitchell Holman
Back up your claim that transcripts of
these GS speeches exist
And if I do, then what?
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Salty Stan
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Salty Stan
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Mitchell Holman
Or do you think she just walks in without a prepared
speech, then makes up what she says as she goes along?
Did Romney make and keep a transcript
of his "47% takers" speech? Where is it and
why is he hiding it?
Well?
I don't recall any speech of Romney's using the phrase "47%
takers". Are you sure about that?
http://youtu.be/M2gvY2wqI7M
Case closed on that one............;)
"Hillary transcripts Goldman Sachs"
and got a quarter million hits.
"Salty Stan Is a Fool" = 1,760,000 results

Really, is that the best you've got?
Salty Stan
2016-02-11 23:01:58 UTC
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Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Salty Stan
Post by Salty Stan
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Salty Stan
Post by Mitchell Holman
On Wednesday, February 10, 2016 at 7:19:39 PM UTC-5, Mitchell
Post by Mitchell Holman
On Wednesday, February 10, 2016 at 9:36:44 AM UTC-5,
Post by Mitchell Holman
On Tuesday, February 9, 2016 at 9:50:14 PM UTC-5,
ss
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Salty Stan
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Joe Cooper
$650,000 for three private speechs to GS staff,
speeches for which Hillary refuses to release the
transcripts.
Huh?
Unless Hillary recorded her own speech
how would she have a transcript?
Wait a sec...are you saying you believe Hillary
doesn't have a transcript of her own speeches?
Does she?
Prove it.
Do you think Hillary doesn't write her own speeches
beforehand (or more likely, have them written for her),
and review them before speaking?
Most speeches are with a few hand cards
for the local introductions and some bullet
points, then a a Q & A session. No one bothers
to make (much less keep) a transcript of that.
You honestly believe there are no transcripts of her speech
at Goldman Sachs? Seriously?
The answer is yes or no.
Post by Mitchell Holman
Prove that such a transcript was ever made.
Prove to whom? Anyone here really think Hillary doesn't have
transcripts of her own speeches?
This is your unproven claim.
If you really think Hillary doesn't have transcripts of her own
speeches, then just say so, and I'll Google the proof for you.
If you have transcripts of these Hillary
GS speeches why you are asking for me to
provide them?
No, I'm asking if you really, honestly believe Hillary doesn't have
transcripts of her own speeches.
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Salty Stan
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Mitchell Holman
But humor us and prove that such a transcript
exists.
Tell me again just why would I want to do that?
Well?
You are the one claiming there are transcripts
of Hillary's speechs to GS. Prove it.
Tell me again just why would I want to do that?
No one doubts that.
I do.
Just you?
Post by Mitchell Holman
Back up your claim that transcripts of
these GS speeches exist
And if I do, then what?
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Salty Stan
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Mitchell Holman
Or do you think she just walks in without a prepared
speech, then makes up what she says as she goes along?
Did Romney make and keep a transcript
of his "47% takers" speech? Where is it and
why is he hiding it?
Well?
I don't recall any speech of Romney's using the phrase "47%
takers". Are you sure about that?
http://youtu.be/M2gvY2wqI7M
Case closed on that one............;)
"Hillary transcripts Goldman Sachs"
and got a quarter million hits.
"Salty Stan Is a Fool" = 1,760,000 results
Really, is that the best you've got?
So you didn't actually look at any of the results.
"SlackJaw" >
2016-02-12 02:46:59 UTC
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Post by Salty Stan
Post by Salty Stan
On Thursday, February 11, 2016 at 3:12:48 PM UTC-5, Mitchell
Post by Mitchell Holman
On Thursday, February 11, 2016 at 9:52:10 AM UTC-5, Mitchell
Post by Mitchell Holman
On Wednesday, February 10, 2016 at 7:19:39 PM UTC-5,
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Salty Stan
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Salty Stan
Post by Mitchell Holman
On Wednesday, February 10, 2016 at 9:36:44 AM
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Joe Cooper
On Tuesday, February 9, 2016 at 9:50:14 PM
om: >> > >> >> >> >>
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Salty Stan
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Salty Stan
ss
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Joe Cooper
$650,000 for three private speechs to GS
staff, >> > >> >> >> >> >> > speeches for which Hillary refuses to
release the >> > >> >> >> >> >> > transcripts.
Post by Salty Stan
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Salty Stan
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Salty Stan
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Mitchell Holman
Huh?
Unless Hillary recorded her own speech
how would she have a transcript?
Wait a sec...are you saying you believe Hillary
doesn't have a transcript of her own speeches?
Does she?
Prove it.
Do you think Hillary doesn't write her own speeches
beforehand (or more likely, have them written for
her), >> > >> >> >> > and review them before speaking?
Post by Salty Stan
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Salty Stan
Post by Mitchell Holman
Most speeches are with a few hand cards
for the local introductions and some bullet
points, then a a Q & A session. No one bothers
to make (much less keep) a transcript of that.
You honestly believe there are no transcripts of her
speech >> > >> >> > at Goldman Sachs? Seriously?
Post by Salty Stan
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Mitchell Holman
The answer is yes or no.
Post by Mitchell Holman
Prove that such a transcript was ever made.
Prove to whom? Anyone here really think Hillary doesn't
have >> > >> > transcripts of her own speeches?
Post by Salty Stan
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Mitchell Holman
This is your unproven claim.
If you really think Hillary doesn't have transcripts of her
own >> > > speeches, then just say so, and I'll Google the proof
for you. >> > >
Post by Salty Stan
Post by Mitchell Holman
If you have transcripts of these Hillary
GS speeches why you are asking for me to
provide them?
No, I'm asking if you really, honestly believe Hillary doesn't
have >> transcripts of her own speeches.
You know he is just stupid enough to believe that!
Post by Salty Stan
Post by Salty Stan
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Salty Stan
Post by Mitchell Holman
But humor us and prove that such a transcript
exists.
Tell me again just why would I want to do that?
Well?
You are the one claiming there are transcripts
of Hillary's speechs to GS. Prove it.
Tell me again just why would I want to do that?
No one doubts that.
I do.
Just you?
Post by Mitchell Holman
Back up your claim that transcripts of
these GS speeches exist
And if I do, then what?
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Salty Stan
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Salty Stan
Or do you think she just walks in without a prepared
speech, then makes up what she says as she goes
along? >> > >> >> >>
Post by Salty Stan
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Salty Stan
Post by Mitchell Holman
Did Romney make and keep a transcript
of his "47% takers" speech? Where is it and
why is he hiding it?
Well?
I don't recall any speech of Romney's using the phrase
"47% >> > >> > takers". Are you sure about that?
Post by Salty Stan
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Mitchell Holman
http://youtu.be/M2gvY2wqI7M
Case closed on that one............;)
LOL! Like all liberals, he has a distant relationship with truth. What
Romney said was that 47% of the people don't pay income tax - which is
true.

But that includes babies, students, retirees, but a lot of the
unemployed, thanks to Obama.
Post by Salty Stan
Post by Salty Stan
"Hillary transcripts Goldman Sachs"
and got a quarter million hits.
"Salty Stan Is a Fool" = 1,760,000 results
Which liberals lose the argument, they start throwing out insults.

He looked up the Internet and found he was wrong. Of course, I didn't
have to look, I knew t already, but here's the proof.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2016/02/08/hillary_clinton_won_t_release_transcripts_of_her_paid_goldman_sachs_speeches.html


http://www.politico.com/story/2016/02/clinton-speeches-218969


http://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/2016/02/09/report-hillarys-goldman-sachs-speech-transcripts-would-bury-her-n2116991

I'll bet poor ol' Mitch is feeling pretty sheepish right about now.
Post by Salty Stan
Really, is that the best you've got?
So you didn't actually look at any of the results.
p.. You know Hillary ot over $200,000 for just one speech? I wonder
what she had to promise GS in return?
someone else
2016-02-12 03:41:14 UTC
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http://youtu.be/M2gvY2wqI7M
Post by "SlackJaw" >
LOL! Like all liberals, he has a distant relationship with truth. What
Romney said was that 47% of the people don't pay income tax
Someone else might ask you to prove that
Post by "SlackJaw" >
Which liberals lose the argument, they start throwing out insults.
Someone else might think that you are losing your marbles in that you
often accuse those who disagree with your opinions of exactly what you,
yourself, are doing
Post by "SlackJaw" >
You know he is just stupid enough to believe that!
Thank you for again proving my point
Post by "SlackJaw" >
Post by Salty Stan
So you didn't actually look at any of the results.
p.. You know Hillary ot over $200,000 for just one speech?
Someone else might think that you're jealous of her leadership
Mitchell Holman
2016-02-12 13:47:16 UTC
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Post by Mitchell Holman
http://youtu.be/M2gvY2wqI7M
Post by "SlackJaw" >
LOL! Like all liberals, he has a distant relationship with truth. What
Romney said was that 47% of the people don't pay income tax
Someone else might ask you to prove that
Post by "SlackJaw" >
Which liberals lose the argument, they start throwing out insults.
Someone else might think that you are losing your marbles in that you
often accuse those who disagree with your opinions of exactly what you,
yourself, are doing
Post by "SlackJaw" >
You know he is just stupid enough to believe that!
Thank you for again proving my point
Post by "SlackJaw" >
Post by Salty Stan
So you didn't actually look at any of the results.
p.. You know Hillary ot over $200,000 for just one speech?
Someone else might think that you're jealous of her leadership
"Baseball been berry berry good to me"
someone else
2016-02-12 14:02:25 UTC
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Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Mitchell Holman
http://youtu.be/M2gvY2wqI7M
Post by "SlackJaw" >
LOL! Like all liberals, he has a distant relationship with truth. What
Romney said was that 47% of the people don't pay income tax
Someone else might ask you to prove that
Post by "SlackJaw" >
Which liberals lose the argument, they start throwing out insults.
Someone else might think that you are losing your marbles in that you
often accuse those who disagree with your opinions of exactly what you,
yourself, are doing
Post by "SlackJaw" >
You know he is just stupid enough to believe that!
Thank you for again proving my point
Post by "SlackJaw" >
Post by Salty Stan
So you didn't actually look at any of the results.
p.. You know Hillary ot over $200,000 for just one speech?
Someone else might think that you're jealous of her leadership
"Baseball been berry berry good to me"
"Basketball, I don't know"
"SlackJaw" >
2016-02-13 03:36:20 UTC
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Post by Salty Stan
On Thursday, February 11, 2016 at 3:12:48 PM UTC-5, Mitchell
Post by Mitchell Holman
On Thursday, February 11, 2016 at 9:52:10 AM UTC-5, Mitchell
Post by Mitchell Holman
On Wednesday, February 10, 2016 at 7:19:39 PM UTC-5,
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Salty Stan
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Salty Stan
Post by Mitchell Holman
On Wednesday, February 10, 2016 at 9:36:44 AM
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Joe Cooper
On Tuesday, February 9, 2016 at 9:50:14 PM
om: >> > >> >> >> >>
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Salty Stan
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Salty Stan
ss
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Joe Cooper
$650,000 for three private speechs to GS
staff, >> > >> >> >> >> >> > speeches for which Hillary refuses to
release the >> > >> >> >> >> >> > transcripts.
Post by Salty Stan
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Salty Stan
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Salty Stan
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Mitchell Holman
Huh?
Unless Hillary recorded her own speech
how would she have a transcript?
Wait a sec...are you saying you believe Hillary
doesn't have a transcript of her own speeches?
Does she?
Prove it.
Do you think Hillary doesn't write her own speeches
beforehand (or more likely, have them written for
her), >> > >> >> >> > and review them before speaking?
Post by Salty Stan
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Salty Stan
Post by Mitchell Holman
Most speeches are with a few hand cards
for the local introductions and some bullet
points, then a a Q & A session. No one bothers
to make (much less keep) a transcript of that.
You honestly believe there are no transcripts of her
speech >> > >> >> > at Goldman Sachs? Seriously?
Post by Salty Stan
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Mitchell Holman
The answer is yes or no.
Post by Mitchell Holman
Prove that such a transcript was ever made.
Prove to whom? Anyone here really think Hillary doesn't
have >> > >> > transcripts of her own speeches?
Post by Salty Stan
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Mitchell Holman
This is your unproven claim.
If you really think Hillary doesn't have transcripts of her
own >> > > speeches, then just say so, and I'll Google the proof
for you. >> > >
Post by Salty Stan
Post by Mitchell Holman
If you have transcripts of these Hillary
GS speeches why you are asking for me to
provide them?
No, I'm asking if you really, honestly believe Hillary doesn't
have >> transcripts of her own speeches.
Post by Salty Stan
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Salty Stan
Post by Mitchell Holman
But humor us and prove that such a transcript
exists.
Tell me again just why would I want to do that?
Well?
You are the one claiming there are transcripts
of Hillary's speechs to GS. Prove it.
Tell me again just why would I want to do that?
No one doubts that.
I do.
Just you?
Post by Mitchell Holman
Back up your claim that transcripts of
these GS speeches exist
And if I do, then what?
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Salty Stan
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Salty Stan
Or do you think she just walks in without a prepared
speech, then makes up what she says as she goes
along? >> > >> >> >>
Post by Salty Stan
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Salty Stan
Post by Mitchell Holman
Did Romney make and keep a transcript
of his "47% takers" speech? Where is it and
why is he hiding it?
Well?
I don't recall any speech of Romney's using the phrase
"47% >> > >> > takers". Are you sure about that?
Post by Salty Stan
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Mitchell Holman
http://youtu.be/M2gvY2wqI7M
Case closed on that one............;)
"Hillary transcripts Goldman Sachs"
and got a quarter million hits.
"Salty Stan Is a Fool" = 1,760,000 results
Really, is that the best you've got?
So you didn't actually look at any of the results.
I'm just thinking...maybe Mitch is right, maybe there are no
transcripts after all.
someone else
2016-02-13 04:58:05 UTC
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Post by "SlackJaw" >
Post by Salty Stan
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Salty Stan
"Hillary transcripts Goldman Sachs"
and got a quarter million hits.
https://www.google.com/#q=%22Hillary+transcripts+Goldman+Sachs%22


No results found for "Hillary transcripts Goldman Sachs".
Post by "SlackJaw" >
Post by Salty Stan
Post by Mitchell Holman
"Salty Stan Is a Fool" = 1,760,000 results
Really, is that the best you've got?
So you didn't actually look at any of the results.
I'm just thinking...
Someone else might think you have really bad luck when you do that
someone else
2016-02-11 21:46:46 UTC
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Post by Salty Stan
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Salty Stan
No one doubts that.
I do.
Just you?
Someone else has doubts about your claims, yes
Post by Salty Stan
Post by Mitchell Holman
Back up your claim that transcripts of
these GS speeches exist
And if I do, then what?
Someone else might refer you back to Romney's 47% takers claims as an
example of why Ms. Clinton won't be trifling with your requests


http://youtu.be/M2gvY2wqI7M


The only record allowed will be made by a stenographer whose
transcription will be given only to Clinton. The stenographer’s $1,250
bill, however, will go to the UNLV Foundation.

The foundation, meanwhile, is prohibited from advertising the event on
radio, TV or billboards. Mail and website ads are allowed, although
Clinton staffers must approve in writing any promotional material. One
unhappy UNLV Foundation official in an email complained of “meddling”
after Clinton’s agency edited a description of the annual dinner to
“dumb it down.”

And Clinton’s demand for approval of all website material before it hits
the Internet prompted a UNLV Web designer to grouse in an email that it
seems “assbackwards in my mind.”

The foundation complied with Clinton’s wishes, however.


http://www.reviewjournal.com/news/las-vegas/high-fashion-expense-hillary-travel
someone else
2016-02-11 21:46:46 UTC
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Post by Salty Stan
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Salty Stan
No one doubts that.
I do.
Just you?
Someone else has doubts about your claims, yes
Post by Salty Stan
Post by Mitchell Holman
Back up your claim that transcripts of
these GS speeches exist
And if I do, then what?
Someone else might refer you back to Romney's 47% takers claims as an
example of why Ms. Clinton won't be trifling with your requests


http://youtu.be/M2gvY2wqI7M


The only record allowed will be made by a stenographer whose
transcription will be given only to Clinton. The stenographer’s $1,250
bill, however, will go to the UNLV Foundation.

The foundation, meanwhile, is prohibited from advertising the event on
radio, TV or billboards. Mail and website ads are allowed, although
Clinton staffers must approve in writing any promotional material. One
unhappy UNLV Foundation official in an email complained of “meddling”
after Clinton’s agency edited a description of the annual dinner to
“dumb it down.”

And Clinton’s demand for approval of all website material before it hits
the Internet prompted a UNLV Web designer to grouse in an email that it
seems “assbackwards in my mind.”

The foundation complied with Clinton’s wishes, however.


http://www.reviewjournal.com/news/las-vegas/high-fashion-expense-hillary-travel
k***@maricaibo.com
2016-02-10 17:28:52 UTC
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On Wed, 10 Feb 2016 06:18:53 -0800 (PST), Salty Stan
Post by Salty Stan
Or do you think she just walks in without a prepared speech, then makes up what she says as she goes along?
Is THAT what you're suggesting?
Only a fucking flake like Trumplet would do that---because HIS
audience are so fucking stupid he can turn and fart and they'd cheer.
Vandar
2016-02-08 02:38:03 UTC
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Post by Joe Cooper
The candidate of Goldman Sachs, without any question, is
.....is Ted Cruz
Ted Cruz Forgot to Mention Massive Loan From
Goldman Sachs, His Wife’s Employer
Ted Cruz can take a break from defending his
eligibility to run for president because today
he's the subject of a new scandal. While the
Texas senator often tells a cute story about his
wife Heidi immediately agreeing when he suggested
they liquidate their assets to fund his first
campaign, the New York Times reports that he's
been omitting the part where they obtained two
loans from Citibank and Goldman Sachs, where
Heidi works, which eventually totaled $1 million.
http://tinyurl.com/zckhtlw
Big difference between taking out a loan and receiving massive campaign
contributions and speaking fees.
The former is business, the latter is political favor.
Siri Cruz
2016-02-08 05:14:39 UTC
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Post by Vandar
Big difference between taking out a loan and receiving massive campaign
contributions and speaking fees.
The former is business, the latter is political favor.
Only when the campaign is certain it will be able to pay off all loans.
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God exists since mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists since we
cannot prove the consistency. ~~ Morris Kline
k***@maricaibo.com
2016-02-07 21:56:12 UTC
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On Sun, 7 Feb 2016 17:24:52 -0000 (UTC), Joe Cooper
Post by Joe Cooper
Aside from “the establishment,” there is no bigger boogeyman in the 2016
election than the dreaded “Goldman Sachs.”
You mean the one that paid billion----or will pay billions, or SHOULD
pay billions and have CEO's go to jail?
Governor Swill
2016-02-08 04:48:19 UTC
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On Sun, 7 Feb 2016 17:24:52 -0000 (UTC), Joe Cooper
Post by Joe Cooper
Of course, Goldman Sachs is just one of many investment banks in the
world. But saying so-and-so is “the candidate of Deutsche Bank” would
only confuse some Democratic primary voters into thinking they were
talking about a lesser-known Bond villain. So Goldman Sachs it is.
The candidate of Goldman Sachs, without any question, is Hillary Clinton.
Clinton earned $675,000 for three – count ‘em, THREE – speeches to
various branches of the company. The CEO of Goldman, Lloyd Blankfein, and
his wife are Clinton supporters – she has maxed out to her campaign and
he’s on board, too, though he won’t say it publicly because he doesn’t
want to hurt her chances.
They loaned Ted Cruz a cool million for his Senate campaign. His wife
works for Goldman Sachs.

Christie's wife is the family's breadwinner. She's an investment
banker.
"Mary Pat and Chris married in 1986. Mary Pat earned an MBA from Seton
Hall University and rocketed to success in bond trading. Amid rumors
her husband was mounting a presidential run, she announced a hiatus
from her job as managing director at the specialty investment firm
Angelo, Gordon & Co in April. Before working at Angelo, Gordon & Co.,
Christie previously had stints at JPMorgan Chase, Fleet Securities,
Cantor Fitzgerald, and Mendham Capital Management, a firm she
co-founded, reported Bloomberg."
http://www.ibtimes.com/who-mary-pat-christie-governors-wife-was-wall-street-trader-family-breadwinner-1988244

Swill
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Hillary can't campaign. In 2008, she lost to a black guy
with a muslim name. Now she's losing to a 74 year old
Jewish Socialist. Hillary, we're making this as easy as
we can, but you have to help a little - Bill Mahr
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